Character Discussion KUUUZZAAAN!!!!!! WE COMIN FOR THAT ICE CANDY ASS!!!! #TheHeroCometh
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I would agree if manga didn't display the complete opposite.
1st exchange: Smoker goes around Vergo for a Jitte attack -> vergo dodges -> Throws a kick -> Smoker blocks his kick -> Vergo tries to attack with the bamboo -> Smoker dodges and throws a punch -> Vergo laid out on the floor bleeding.
2nd exchange shown is Smoker again hitting this dude and bloodying him up.
Vergo is never gone be able to tank clean hits from Smoker like nothing happened let alone combo punches.
As for going from trying to beat Vergo and then switching to getting Law's heart, disagreed on that. If it was about just whooping Vergo's ass, Smoker would've done that long ago. The issue was retrieving Law's heart, which Vergo could just destroy within a second the moment he senses hes about to lose, similar to Ceasar who thought he was stabbing Smoker's heart. His objective from the get-go was to get the heart. Hence why Law states, the deal is done. And then later states about how Smoker being nice to him resulted in good karma for him, related to their hearts.
Never understood lowkey where folks got the switch of hearts things from, never implied by Smoker or Vergo or Law. Even Vergo simply mentions Smoker not fighting like himself by expanding the Smoke. The fight starts in chapter 684, and then in 685, we see that Smoker was already fighting by expanding the Smoke, unlike himself. Which continued on for 5 more chapters after that.
1st exchange: Smoker goes around Vergo for a Jitte attack -> vergo dodges -> Throws a kick -> Smoker blocks his kick -> Vergo tries to attack with the bamboo -> Smoker dodges and throws a punch -> Vergo laid out on the floor bleeding.
2nd exchange shown is Smoker again hitting this dude and bloodying him up.
As for going from trying to beat Vergo and then switching to getting Law's heart, disagreed on that. If it was about just whooping Vergo's ass, Smoker would've done that long ago. The issue was retrieving Law's heart, which Vergo could just destroy within a second the moment he senses hes about to lose, similar to Ceasar who thought he was stabbing Smoker's heart. His objective from the get-go was to get the heart. Hence why Law states, the deal is done. And then later states about how Smoker being nice to him resulted in good karma for him, related to their hearts.
Never understood lowkey where folks got the switch of hearts things from, never implied by Smoker or Vergo or Law. Even Vergo simply mentions Smoker not fighting like himself by expanding the Smoke. The fight starts in chapter 684, and then in 685, we see that Smoker was already fighting by expanding the Smoke, unlike himself. Which continued on for 5 more chapters after that.
I mean I already showed you proof he started fighting by expanding smoke literally the next chapter, which continued for 5 more chapters. But I mean if you rather go with the Vergo agenda, go right ahead bruhz.
He didn't switch his mind... Law literally told him not to pull any stunts until Law got his heart back from Vergo. Which is why he goes after Vergo, even though Law had gone after him. To get Law's heart back for him. Hence Law states the deal is done. We literally had a scene of a dude who got his ass kicked and was about stab "Smoker's heart" to atleast "take one down" with him. Law's heart took priority over kicking Vergo's ass.
The anime team just acted like low iq chimps like they did with the Whitebeard-Akainu moments, which is gassing up a pirate over a marine. When Oda himself doesn't bother showing Vergo tanking a clean hit from Smoker, idk what makes you think he would tank haki punch combos from Smoker, cause of some dumb anime sequence.
@Bold, not for himself but the fodder marines and Tashigi.
Vergo at best is the 5th strongest fighter on PH. You remove Law's heart out of the equation it's a squash match for either Law or Smoker. With Roronoa and Luffy being the other two are superior. Smoker is even superior to Law at PH, who solely won due to the hax advantage, which somebody like Doflamingo only countered because he had prior knowledge (as mentioned by Doflamingo himself when Law tries the same attack that Smoker got done in by on Doflamingo), but that's a different discussion.
He didn't switch his mind... Law literally told him not to pull any stunts until Law got his heart back from Vergo. Which is why he goes after Vergo, even though Law had gone after him. To get Law's heart back for him. Hence Law states the deal is done. We literally had a scene of a dude who got his ass kicked and was about stab "Smoker's heart" to atleast "take one down" with him. Law's heart took priority over kicking Vergo's ass.
The anime team just acted like low iq chimps like they did with the Whitebeard-Akainu moments, which is gassing up a pirate over a marine. When Oda himself doesn't bother showing Vergo tanking a clean hit from Smoker, idk what makes you think he would tank haki punch combos from Smoker, cause of some dumb anime sequence.
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@Bold, not for himself but the fodder marines and Tashigi.
Vergo at best is the 5th strongest fighter on PH. You remove Law's heart out of the equation it's a squash match for either Law or Smoker. With Roronoa and Luffy being the other two are superior. Smoker is even superior to Law at PH, who solely won due to the hax advantage, which somebody like Doflamingo only countered because he had prior knowledge (as mentioned by Doflamingo himself when Law tries the same attack that Smoker got done in by on Doflamingo), but that's a different discussion.
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I mean I already showed you proof he started fighting by expanding smoke literally the next chapter, which continued for 5 more chapters. But I mean if you rather go with the Vergo agenda, go right ahead bruhz.
He didn't switch his mind... Law literally told him not to pull any stunts until Law got his heart back from Vergo. Which is why he goes after Vergo, even though Law had gone after him. To get Law's heart back for him. Hence Law states the deal is done. We literally had a scene of a dude who got his ass kicked and was about stab "Smoker's heart" to atleast "take one down" with him.
The anime team just acted like low iq chimps like they did with the Whitebeard-Akainu moments, which is gassing up a pirate over a marine. When Oda himself doesn't bother showing Vergo tanking a clean hit from Smoker, idk what makes you think he would tank haki punch combos from Smoker, cause of some dumb anime sequence.
He didn't switch his mind... Law literally told him not to pull any stunts until Law got his heart back from Vergo. Which is why he goes after Vergo, even though Law had gone after him. To get Law's heart back for him. Hence Law states the deal is done. We literally had a scene of a dude who got his ass kicked and was about stab "Smoker's heart" to atleast "take one down" with him.
The anime team just acted like low iq chimps like they did with the Whitebeard-Akainu moments, which is gassing up a pirate over a marine. When Oda himself doesn't bother showing Vergo tanking a clean hit from Smoker, idk what makes you think he would tank haki punch combos from Smoker, cause of some dumb anime sequence.
I mean clearly not since you flat out lied about Smoker fighting normally to land the hits, when the 2nd hit was landed while his smoke was expanded lmao. The other lie was about the change of heart in middle of the fight, but aye I understand, we'll end it here.
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I mean clearly not since you flat out lied about Smoker fighting normally to land the hits, when the 2nd hit was landed while his smoke was expanded lmao. The other lie was about the change of heart in middle of the fight, but aye I understand, we'll end it here.
YOU TOLD US YOU WAS GONNA DO GOOD EVEN WITHOUT BEING IN MARINES!!!
YOU TOLD US, YOU HADN'T CHANGED!!
YET WHAT DO YOU DO?!!! YOU HARM OUR MARINE YOUNGINS!!!
YOU HARM THE MAN WHO WAS OUR ICON!!
BUT THAT'S NOT ALL, YOU'VE GIVEN YOUR POWER TO MASS MURDERERS AND GENOCIDAL FREAKS AND WENT FAR ENOUGH TO CASUALITIES!!!???!??!??!?!?!
YOU LOST YOUR WAY.....
WITH THE WORLD RAVAGED BY THE RISE OF BLACKBEARD PIRATES & CROSS GUILD.
BIGGEST GROUPS OF MASS MURDERERS THE SEAS HAVE SEEN.
THE PEOPLE CRY OUT FOR A REAL SAVIOR.
NOT A CHILD, BUT A MAN!!
A REAL HERO!!
WE YOUR CLOSEST FRIEND, SHALL END YOUR REIGN OF TERROR ON THE SEAS!!
BEWARE THE WHITE-CHASE SMOKER IS COMING!!
#SMOKERComethInFewHundredChapters
#WeOnTheHorizon
#PowerUpsOnRoids
#GloryBeOurs
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Hopefully Hina will get to shine too
I prefer Smoker vs Kuzan one hundredfold over Law vs Kuzan or, TAC forgive me for the monstrosity I'm about to mention, Koby vs Kuzan 