Character Discussion Latest Vivre Card about Mihawk and Crocodile (September 4, 2024)
Who said anything about magical power? You magical fruit eaters are obsessed with free power ups.
The greater understanding you have of a ability/power/skill the stronger you become. That has been true throughout the entire manga. Luffy's understanding of DF power is one of the best examples of that. He has grown stronger simply by understanding his DF more and learning to use its potential.
Yes, the more you understand black blades stronger you will become with one. One of the best ways to understand black blades by creating one.
The greater understanding you have of a ability/power/skill the stronger you become. That has been true throughout the entire manga. Luffy's understanding of DF power is one of the best examples of that. He has grown stronger simply by understanding his DF more and learning to use its potential.
Yes, the more you understand black blades stronger you will become with one. One of the best ways to understand black blades by creating one.
Zoro didn't forge Shuisui into black blade.
There is no evidence that Zoro became stronger with Enma.
There was never a statement from Zoro nor anyone saying Zoro became stronger with Enma.
Enma was even nerfing Zoro's haki control.
Unleashing huge amounts of haki is something that Zoro already know. He has Ashura since Enies Lobby.
Mihawk already stated any blade can be forged into a black blade while teaching Zoro haki.
Both Ryuma and Mihawk were said to have countless battle.
As we know, haki bloom in battles.
Forging a black blade is definitely relative to strength.
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Zoro literally swung his sword at a branch and did not cut, pre-timeskip back in Alabasta. And it is one of the earliest sword technique that's been introduced.
King is not a swordsman.
WB is not a swordsman.
Roger, Shanks, and Nasujuro are swordsmen. They primarily use sword as their main offensive weapon.
Roger and Shanks literally have used only swords on all of the battles they've been shown.
Even Shanks' wifi haki has to use his sword lol. Couldn't he have just pointed with his finger?
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**Roger was shown to have used a pistol. But you get my point.
There is no evidence that Zoro became stronger with Enma.
There was never a statement from Zoro nor anyone saying Zoro became stronger with Enma.
Enma was even nerfing Zoro's haki control.
Unleashing huge amounts of haki is something that Zoro already know. He has Ashura since Enies Lobby.
Mihawk already stated any blade can be forged into a black blade while teaching Zoro haki.
Both Ryuma and Mihawk were said to have countless battle.
As we know, haki bloom in battles.
Forging a black blade is definitely relative to strength.
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Zoro literally swung his sword at a branch and did not cut, pre-timeskip back in Alabasta. And it is one of the earliest sword technique that's been introduced.
King is not a swordsman.
WB is not a swordsman.
Roger, Shanks, and Nasujuro are swordsmen. They primarily use sword as their main offensive weapon.
Roger and Shanks literally have used only swords on all of the battles they've been shown.
Even Shanks' wifi haki has to use his sword lol. Couldn't he have just pointed with his finger?
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**Roger was shown to have used a pistol. But you get my point.
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I'm not talking about hitting but not hurting skill , I'm talking about hurting or one shoting without cutting, roger shanks one shot without cutting, they just use the sword to transmit their haki and could even do that without a sword and finally destroy you withou doign sword skill to cut you down, just destrpying you, if you did not notice that....
examples ?: oden did not get cut by roger hit but got hurt a lot and sent away and would get oneshot if he was admiral level, + kidd got one shot but not cut, show me one oppenent zoro and mihawk seriously and hurt hit and did not cut ? oden is a swordsman he alwasy hurt you by cutting you.
examples ?: oden did not get cut by roger hit but got hurt a lot and sent away and would get oneshot if he was admiral level, + kidd got one shot but not cut, show me one oppenent zoro and mihawk seriously and hurt hit and did not cut ? oden is a swordsman he alwasy hurt you by cutting you.
You really don't read the manga do you?
Zoro has possessed non-cutting attacks since pre-times give. His hawk wave is pressure/shock wave attack. He learned how to not cut using haki before knew about haki.
With one attacks Zoro cut the tonfa and Apoo, but didn't cut the antidote.
Zoro used his sword without cutting.
Hyou (swordsman) used haki to attack without using a sword.
That is a power anybody that use flowing haki can do.
There goes your entire argument.
Zoro has possessed non-cutting attacks since pre-times give. His hawk wave is pressure/shock wave attack. He learned how to not cut using haki before knew about haki.
With one attacks Zoro cut the tonfa and Apoo, but didn't cut the antidote.
Zoro used his sword without cutting.
Hyou (swordsman) used haki to attack without using a sword.
That is a power anybody that use flowing haki can do.
There goes your entire argument.
You really don't read the manga do you?
Zoro has possessed non-cutting attacks since pre-times give. His hawk wave is pressure/shock wave attack. He learned how to not cut using haki before knew about haki.
With one attacks Zoro cut the tonfa and Apoo, but didn't cut the antidote.
Zoro used his sword without cutting.
Hyou (swordsman) used haki to attack without using a sword.
That is a power anybody that use flowing haki can do.
There goes your entire argument.
Zoro has possessed non-cutting attacks since pre-times give. His hawk wave is pressure/shock wave attack. He learned how to not cut using haki before knew about haki.
With one attacks Zoro cut the tonfa and Apoo, but didn't cut the antidote.
Zoro used his sword without cutting.
Hyou (swordsman) used haki to attack without using a sword.
That is a power anybody that use flowing haki can do.
There goes your entire argument.
i'm not speaking being able to choose who you cut and who you do not, but when you choose to beat someone you are forced to cut him if you are a swordsman but you can beat him with your sword without cutting him if you are a sword hakiman OK NOW,,???
should i rewrite it in an easier version ?
zoro will cut you if he want to beat you but shanks will destroy you with his sword without cutting you because he is not a pure swordsman , he just use his swords to hit with his haki and he does not cut.
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I'm talking about serious fights with real techniques, the real proper techniques of a sworsman he uses in serious fights always envolve cutting but the real techniques of a sword hakimen does'nt,
show me one real challenge of zoro who got not cut after the fight ?
while KIDD got one shot without getting cut ( shanks sword hakiman )
ODEN got kamusaried by roger ( sword hakiman )without getting cut but got heavily blooded ( knowing that even non letha cutting attack would at least leave a small mark of cutting )
I'm talking about serious fights with real techniques, the real proper techniques of a sworsman he uses in serious fights always envolve cutting but the real techniques of a sword hakimen does'nt,
show me one real challenge of zoro who got not cut after the fight ?
while KIDD got one shot without getting cut ( shanks sword hakiman )
ODEN got kamusaried by roger ( sword hakiman )without getting cut but got heavily blooded ( knowing that even non letha cutting attack would at least leave a small mark of cutting )
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I get what you mean.
Kamusari is Internal Destruction.
However, this doesn't change the fact that Shanks and Roger are fighters who relies on channeling their techniques with their swords primarily.
Is Zoro not a swordsman for channeling his haki and strength into his swords?
They're still swordsmen, just that they are using a different technique.
They cut from the inside not from the outside.
This is similar to swordsmen who are DF users.
Fuiji the "Blind Swordsman" and Law are considered swordsmen.
It's because they fight primarily using their swords as their offensive weapon in combination with their DF.
Law is more arguable since he has techniques which only uses his hand, however offensively, he still relies on his sword, even his awakening.
In contrast, both King and Whitebeard has offensive techniques that literally doesn't use a blade at all.
Linlin also belong to this category.
Kamusari is Internal Destruction.
However, this doesn't change the fact that Shanks and Roger are fighters who relies on channeling their techniques with their swords primarily.
Is Zoro not a swordsman for channeling his haki and strength into his swords?
They're still swordsmen, just that they are using a different technique.
They cut from the inside not from the outside.
This is similar to swordsmen who are DF users.
Fuiji the "Blind Swordsman" and Law are considered swordsmen.
It's because they fight primarily using their swords as their offensive weapon in combination with their DF.
Law is more arguable since he has techniques which only uses his hand, however offensively, he still relies on his sword, even his awakening.
In contrast, both King and Whitebeard has offensive techniques that literally doesn't use a blade at all.
Linlin also belong to this category.
Stop the headcannon. You post is just the hakiman BS argument retold. Stop trying to define swordsman based on your headcannon instead of the manga. We have seen Zoro use non-cutting attacks and beat people without cutting them. There goes your entire argument.
Zoro defeats opponents without cutting them.
Zoro's hawk wave.
Oh no, Zoro used a non-cutting pressure/shock wave attack just like Shanks and Roger and he doesn't call it a sword style technique. I guess Zoro is not a swordsman.
Maybe you should sit down and be quiet instead of creating secondary accounts just to hate on a character. Its pathetic.
Zoro defeats opponents without cutting them.
Zoro's hawk wave.
Oh no, Zoro used a non-cutting pressure/shock wave attack just like Shanks and Roger and he doesn't call it a sword style technique. I guess Zoro is not a swordsman.
Maybe you should sit down and be quiet instead of creating secondary accounts just to hate on a character. Its pathetic.
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Wait isn’t there a significant power gap between Shanks and Kid and Roger and Oden?
Zoro has defeated much weaker opponents using non-cutting attacks but Oden and Kid were also MUCH WEAKER than Shanks and Roger
So? Seems like it’s the same thing… Have you seen Shanks and Roger defeat someone OF THEUR EQUAL POWER LEVEL without cutting them?
Zoro has defeated much weaker opponents using non-cutting attacks but Oden and Kid were also MUCH WEAKER than Shanks and Roger
So? Seems like it’s the same thing… Have you seen Shanks and Roger defeat someone OF THEUR EQUAL POWER LEVEL without cutting them?
Stop the headcannon. You post is just the hakiman BS argument retold. Stop trying to define swordsman based on your headcannon instead of the manga. We have seen Zoro use non-cutting attacks and beat people without cutting them. There goes your entire argument.
Zoro defeats opponents without cutting them.
Zoro's hawk wave.
Oh no, Zoro used a non-cutting pressure/shock wave attack just like Shanks and Roger and he doesn't call it a sword style technique. I guess Zoro is not a swordsman.
Maybe you should sit down and be quiet instead of creating secondary accounts just to hate on a character. Its pathetic.
Zoro defeats opponents without cutting them.
Zoro's hawk wave.
Oh no, Zoro used a non-cutting pressure/shock wave attack just like Shanks and Roger and he doesn't call it a sword style technique. I guess Zoro is not a swordsman.
Maybe you should sit down and be quiet instead of creating secondary accounts just to hate on a character. Its pathetic.
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i never saw zoro do a real sword haki attack seriously on an oppoenent without cutting him, and you dare show me punches and blade wrist hits on fodder ? the main source of a swordsman attack is his blade while a hakiman can beat you without his blade, now try to remove zoro his sword, he would be less than vergo level while shanks can still use his full strength and twerk greenbull
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mihawk, garp, coby and all the admirals have never, are not and will never be anything near yonko level, marine never had any yonko level in his troops
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Mihawk can do this same thing if he wanted to it’s all on the intent of the swordsman
