It doesnt make sense for wb to be wsm when Roger equaled him. Then mihawk who is stronger than roger is weaker than sickbeard. So just like wsc where men aren't included, the same is true for wsm where swordsmen aren't included. And it's the most prestigious title as whoever gets that title is also the strongest.
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so what you're saying is that luffy lost to Apoo right? it's the exact same situation where lucci is getting taken by surprise by luffy's new ridiculous powers
And even then lucci wasn't knocked out, he said he was losing consciousness which he didn't. but he is an awakened zoan, he recovers fast like nothing happened unlike luffy who is the opposite and turns into an old man and has drawbacks for his awakening. and we saw that at the end of the fight, lucci was in a way better state for someone that apparently got knocked out. And lucci didn't even respect luffy after apparently getting knocked out, he still thinks Luffy ain't shit lmao!!!
well Marco lost to him and started believing in gods. You could say they're on the same level if you want it doesn't matter, point stands.
well yea, kizaru hyped lucci, lucci hyped kizaru, they're built up to be the 2 biggest threats in this arc.
dog leash? did you want lucci to go in alone on everybody with kaku injured, yall can't be serious. and he actually attacked vegapunk with zoro + sanji + stussy and the others alone.
well they're looking weaker than beast pirates so cool.
even teach looks trash compared to kaido
let me cook
And even then lucci wasn't knocked out, he said he was losing consciousness which he didn't. but he is an awakened zoan, he recovers fast like nothing happened unlike luffy who is the opposite and turns into an old man and has drawbacks for his awakening. and we saw that at the end of the fight, lucci was in a way better state for someone that apparently got knocked out. And lucci didn't even respect luffy after apparently getting knocked out, he still thinks Luffy ain't shit lmao!!!
well I dont think marco's king's inferior
so No I dont understand
portraying them in similar light???
lucci was on dog leash after luffy canned him and only had the confidence to attack again was his kizaru stepped in .
so No I dont understand
portraying them in similar light???
lucci was on dog leash after luffy canned him and only had the confidence to attack again was his kizaru stepped in .
well yea, kizaru hyped lucci, lucci hyped kizaru, they're built up to be the 2 biggest threats in this arc.
dog leash? did you want lucci to go in alone on everybody with kaku injured, yall can't be serious. and he actually attacked vegapunk with zoro + sanji + stussy and the others alone.
well they're looking weaker than beast pirates so cool.
even teach looks trash compared to kaido
let me cook
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Feels good to see some retaliation from the absurdity of some certain Zoro fans. Not all of them have ridiculous claims, but a handful who are the loudest on the site really have the minds of a twelve year old kid who thinks their fav is the best no matter what. It’s pretty delusional really. So I am glad they are getting dunked on more and more as their claims get debunked each arc.
It’s not even fan wars at this point. It’s just common sense vs nonsense.
Zoro is badass, we know. But warping the story’s facts and trying to make Zoro the protagonist to a pretty traditional shonen battle manga after 1000+ chapters of Luffy beating the strongest to become the strongest (and thus most free on the seas) then I dunno anymore. Sounds like immaturity to me because y’all act like that
It’s not even fan wars at this point. It’s just common sense vs nonsense.
Zoro is badass, we know. But warping the story’s facts and trying to make Zoro the protagonist to a pretty traditional shonen battle manga after 1000+ chapters of Luffy beating the strongest to become the strongest (and thus most free on the seas) then I dunno anymore. Sounds like immaturity to me because y’all act like that
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Brother, Roger is also > Shanks. Luffy is trying to surpass Roger, thats his goal and you wanna tell me there is already another guy who did? Come on.
How does this make sense in your brain dude? @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung @EmperorKinyagi @Sir Yasheen whose alt is this???
Hey man Im just arguing with this guy saying WSM doesnt include swordsmen.
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How does this make sense in your brain dude? @MarineHQ @Elder Lee Hung @EmperorKinyagi @Sir Yasheen whose alt is this???
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This will be a goldmine when Saturn shows up 
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New gen Always surpass the previous one.
You have no Facts to prove Roger ~ Shanks. Nothing that way was ever portrayed. Only thing Roger have above Shanks is "pirate king" title and I tired of saying this pirate king is a fame title.
If he was so strong what made him sneak into bigmam territory. Whereas shanks made direct entrance to Marineford war.
Shanks and Roger both have Kamasuri with them , And shanks > Roger Kamasuri.
Only person I can make exception is Xebec who is probably stronger than shanks.
Luffy isn't trying to surpass Roger , he's trying to surpass Current Yonkou. Only thing which exist between Roger and Luffy is their dream that's it. It was just Roger words , In 20 years a few individuals who will surpass us will put an end to stuff , we were too early. And these few individuals is at the very least 3-5 people (Luffy, Zoro , Shanks , Mihawk , dragon most probably).
Name me one feat Roger has over Shanks? You got none.
Kaido ~ Shanks ~ Roger ~ WB
It's just y'all delusion to make Luffy the god of one piece and want him to Power creep even Yonkou. Which won't be happening.
Also look at the bounty. Mihawk is strength based and is just 3.6 B , Roger had Influence and strong crew (+1B)
Then he got to know about World history and void century.
If a clown like Robin get around a billion bounty just for existing and reading , those who know it ofc posses higher threat.
Remove that from rogers and he falls to 4.5B
Which is correct cuz 4.6B Kaidou and 5B Whitebeard , hold WS title which would make sense why higher than Roger if he didn't had void century knowledge.
You have zero hype from Roger to put him above Shanks.
You have no Facts to prove Roger ~ Shanks. Nothing that way was ever portrayed. Only thing Roger have above Shanks is "pirate king" title and I tired of saying this pirate king is a fame title.
If he was so strong what made him sneak into bigmam territory. Whereas shanks made direct entrance to Marineford war.
Shanks and Roger both have Kamasuri with them , And shanks > Roger Kamasuri.
Only person I can make exception is Xebec who is probably stronger than shanks.
Luffy isn't trying to surpass Roger , he's trying to surpass Current Yonkou. Only thing which exist between Roger and Luffy is their dream that's it. It was just Roger words , In 20 years a few individuals who will surpass us will put an end to stuff , we were too early. And these few individuals is at the very least 3-5 people (Luffy, Zoro , Shanks , Mihawk , dragon most probably).
Name me one feat Roger has over Shanks? You got none.
Kaido ~ Shanks ~ Roger ~ WB
It's just y'all delusion to make Luffy the god of one piece and want him to Power creep even Yonkou. Which won't be happening.
Also look at the bounty. Mihawk is strength based and is just 3.6 B , Roger had Influence and strong crew (+1B)
Then he got to know about World history and void century.
If a clown like Robin get around a billion bounty just for existing and reading , those who know it ofc posses higher threat.
Remove that from rogers and he falls to 4.5B
Which is correct cuz 4.6B Kaidou and 5B Whitebeard , hold WS title which would make sense why higher than Roger if he didn't had void century knowledge.
You have zero hype from Roger to put him above Shanks.
Not true, only applies to the MCs generation, in naruto Madara and Hashirama reigned supreme.
WB was still WSM in current times prior to removing his IVs.
Its interesting that if we follow your logic you put Mihawk over Shanks by title but wont put Kaido above Mihawk even though hes the strongest pirate, I guess Mihawk isnt a pirate huh.
WB was still WSM in current times prior to removing his IVs.
Its interesting that if we follow your logic you put Mihawk over Shanks by title but wont put Kaido above Mihawk even though hes the strongest pirate, I guess Mihawk isnt a pirate huh.
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Madara and Hashirama were 100s of years ago , Luffy and Zoro previous gen is Shanks and Mihawk , and previous generation to them is Roger and WB.
Madara and Hashirama are like Joyboy and Ryuma itself. 🤦.
He held the title for sure but he definately wasn't strong enough to carry the title , He said it himself. He's old now.
Swordsman are kryptonite to Kaido, Kaido top 5 somehow carried a blade , and Kaido is strongest Creature not Strongest Pirate... Well mihawk isn't pirate either. Never was , he only focussed on his own goal since the beginning.
He was a marine hunter to be exact.
Madara and Hashirama are like Joyboy and Ryuma itself. 🤦.
He held the title for sure but he definately wasn't strong enough to carry the title , He said it himself. He's old now.
Swordsman are kryptonite to Kaido, Kaido top 5 somehow carried a blade , and Kaido is strongest Creature not Strongest Pirate... Well mihawk isn't pirate either. Never was , he only focussed on his own goal since the beginning.
He was a marine hunter to be exact.