Future Events Law and Kid's awakenings are going to look ridiculous compared to Luffy's fruit awakening.

[Mugiwara56]

Seen how the way the Gorosei hyped this fruit

Zunesha says Joyboy is back

That Luffy has reached the stage of "Joyboy" that Kaido wanted so much

And that Oda said that this year we have to focus on the main character Expect Kid and Law's performance against Big Mom to be overlooked by most One Piece readers.

Monkey D Luffy will ellipse them. Kaido will also show something bigger and ridicule Big Mom even more and Luffy will show something gigantic again and ridicule Kid and Law even more.

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[MonsterKaido]

Law's awakening is overpowered though ; but yeah luffy will most likely trump it + Joyboy powerup advantage and potential G5

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Definitely.

WG doesn't give a damm bout law DF that is really hax so just imagine what Luffy DF can pull to make them fear it.

 

[Mugiwara56]

Law's awakening is overpowered though ; but yeah luffy will most likely trump it + Joyboy powerup advantage and potential G5

What do you think of Kaido? Frankly he impressed me he is terribly strong. He beat Luffy with Power-Up three times and he will face Luffy who awakened his fruit. Kaido is the king of this arc Luffy is right behind the 2nd arc king.

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Definitely.

WG doesn't give a damm bout law DF that is really hax so just imagine what Luffy DF can pull to make them fear it.

Yeah it's crazy

 

[MonsterKaido]

What do you think of Kaido? Frankly he impressed me he is terribly strong. He beat Luffy with Power-Up three times and he will face Luffy who awakened his fruit. Kaido is the king of this arc Luffy is right behind the 2nd arc king.

Yeah kaido has proven his worth for me ; the only thing which remains is awakening. By logic he should have it but with oda you never know

 

[Finalbeta]

He will defeat possibly the strongest being around with it so makes sense.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

And that Oda said that this year we have to focus on the main character Expect Kid and Law's performance against Big Mom to be overlooked by most One Piece readers.

It called world class battle for a reason, so far only fight who called world class battle in this case by Oda and why Kid and Law vs BM was not called like that, it has multiple reason, I said it in my thread also the reasons why the fight totally fail:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...y-did-they-really-beat-big-mom-analyze.22107/

Pls don´t misunderstand me Kid and Law fans, they did a incredible job but let be honest.
Bm was nerfed and I bet all my money that if BM face Luffy in Elbaf, the whole atmospähre and fightstyle of her will be different then the BM which we see against Law and Kid...

Starting with the fact that BM going use more adv CoC against Luffy and perhaps her awakening could be so broken that she kinda got 50% more power, so what we like see was BM at best with 50% against Kid and Law and even then they barely could throw her out with luck, 50% was enough to beat Kid and Law if they wouldn´t had luck on their side. But again it is still a incredible feat for Law and Kid but sadly it not come close to the fight with Kaido vs Luffy...

Their is a reason why Luffy vs Kaido is called world class battle while the letter is not, duo BM was nerfed and holding back from using her true power.

Now coming back to Kaido vs Luffy, Luffy is the strongest member in the alliance, he has adv CoC,adv CoO and adv CoA.
No one in the alliance all have this, at top he has G4 who already beat the shit of YC without all adv hakis+physical+states boost as what Luffy got.

So we can assume that G4 Boundman Luffy with adv CoC+adv CoA+adv CoO is around mid top tier lvl(probably lowest stages but still), while character like Kid,Law,Zoro and Yamato are probably low top tiers.

Duo Kaido beeing nerfed and Luffy been that strong, it was still called world class battle, like two admirals fighting each other, ofc Kaido is above that lvl.

And yeah you are not wrong, from now Kaido will receive even more op feats, more and better feats.
At top he could have awakened power who could push him even far stronger, his portrayal is already incredible and he keep rising.
It clear that Oda do his best to show us why Kaido is the strongest character and I bet my money on his future feats who will look even far better.

When Oda said this:

He not just mean Luffy, but his opponent Kaido will shine even more and more.
When it come to Luffy opponents, overall about Kaido, shit going down how Oda hyping them always.
So don´t just pay attention to Luffy, pay attention to Kaido!!!

Awakened Kaido vs Awakened Joyboy will show why this fight is a world class battle, not just Onigashima is in danger, whole wano will burn soon...

As I said, nothing against Kid and Law(at most Law for his incredible feats), but what soon Kaido vs Luffy will show, it will made look these fights as ant battle...

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Pls don´t misunderstand me Kid and Law fans, they did a incredible job but let be honest.
Bm was nerfed and I bet all my money that if BM face Luffy in Elbaf, the whole atmospähre and fightstyle of her will be different then the BM which we see against Law and Kid...

Starting with the fact that BM going use more adv CoC against Luffy and perhaps her awakening could be so broken that she kinda got 50% more power, so what we like see was BM at best with 50% against Kid and Law and even then they barely could throw her out with luck, 50% was enough to beat Kid and Law if they wouldn´t had luck on their side. But again it is still a incredible feat for Law and Kid but sadly it not come close to the fight with Kaido vs Luffy...

There is absolutely nothing that suggests Linlin was nerfed. This is just more nonsense from people who don't want to accept that Kid and Law are low top tiers.

Linlin sacrificing lifespan is undeniable proof that the fight was high diff. Why didn't she use ACoC? I don't know

• maybe she can't use it consciously
• maybe she did use it but Oda just off-screened it(see Speed's comment)
• maybe she's using it all the time but Oda just doesn't highlight it with the black lightning

Who fucking knows. But this "linlin was nerfed" argument is honestly tiresome. It makes absolutely no sense in the context of the fight.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

This is just more nonsense from people who don't want to accept that Kid and Law are low top tiers.

That is kinda a nonsense, I legit put Kid and Law as low top tiers, what has this do with BM being nerfed.

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Linlin sacrificing lifespan is undeniable proof that the fight was high diff. Why didn't she use ACoC? I don't know

• maybe she can't use it consciously
• maybe she did use it but Oda just off-screened it(see Speed's comment)
• maybe she's using it all the time but Oda just doesn't highlight it with the black lightning

Who fucking knows. But this "linlin was nerfed" argument is honestly tiresome. It makes absolutely no sense in the context of the fight.

It doesn't make sense her to used it against Pageone but fucking not against Kid and Law. What Speed could feel was just normal CoC. Nothing suggest that she really used adv CoC against Kid and Law.

And hell I hope she was nerfed in case,otherwise their is not any excuse why BM feats aren't come close to Kaido even though they been equals and portrayal as equals...

Wanna bet that she going to used awakening against Luffy in Elbaf, which would proof that she was nerfed?

Her Giga form was a ability of her df, her equal to Drunken Kaido.

Base Kaido=Base Big mon
Dragon Kaido=Homies Big Mom
Hybrid Kaido=Fused Homies BM
Drunken Kaido=Giga BM
Soon awa Kaido=???

It clear that Oda follow up always the same stage for both Yonkous. Ofc Kaido is stronger, but the fight would be not less the high diff-extrem high diff...

It clear that BM was holding back of finishing Kid and Law, she probably not even used her awakened df...

 

[Hereforthesalt]

Law's awakening is already ridiculous. Ridiculously broken.

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

It’s possible, tho it’ll need to do a hell of a Lot. To make people completely overlook Laws high top tier offense in awakening. It’ll more then likely just be slightly more impressive. Otherwise what lvl of offense are we expecting... God tier???

Definitely.

WG doesn't give a damm bout law DF that is really hax so just imagine what Luffy DF can pull to make them fear it.

The WG doesn’t give a damn about a DF, they’ve priced. As more valuable, Then 1 of Yonko bounty? That’s just nonsensical on so many lvls lol

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

It’s possible, tho it’ll need to do a hell of a Lot. To make people completely overlook Laws high top tier offense in awakening. It’ll more then likely just be slightly more impressive. Otherwise what lvl of offense are we expecting.

Law feat so far is the best one in Wano, I really look forward to see if and how Joyboy awakened Luffy and Kaido top it.
Everything above that lvl would mean country lvl shit xD.

 

[Iaarm]

Laws awakening was OK. But Kids awakening could have been waaay better. His DF has so much potential. If the MC had Kids DF it would be the best in OP.
I dont really mind Odas wank for Luffy anymore. He could make Luffy a planet buster and I still wouldnt be surprised.

 

[Gorosei Informer]

Seen how the way the Gorosei hyped this fruit

Zunesha says Joyboy is back

That Luffy has reached the stage of "Joyboy" that Kaido wanted so much

And that Oda said that this year we have to focus on the main character Expect Kid and Law's performance against Big Mom to be overlooked by most One Piece readers.

Monkey D Luffy will ellipse them. Kaido will also show something bigger and ridicule Big Mom even more and Luffy will show something gigantic again and ridicule Kid and Law even more.

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It really doesn't help that it took the two of them to take down Big Mom whereas Luffy is going to get a solo win vs Kaido and he's also getting a DF awakening and is presumably Joyboy and Nika or something too. Definitely connected directly somehow ofc.

I knew Luffy was gonna overshadow them but especially as a Kidd fan I feel like we're really suffering in comparison to Law and Luffy, especially given how Law also did that Shock Wille/Ville move and yet Kidd didn't get a similar feat especially with the long awaited rail cannon we Kidd fans wanted to see happen so badly. Toei even toyed with his beam striking Wano in the new opening for the the anime unless that turns out to be something else somehow? Sigh.

One Piece has been The Luffy Show especially post TS and I'm tired of it. Big Mom has been made to look inferior to Kaido, especially given how many more opponents he's fought, how much he's tanked and still keeps relenting and not being taken out. Big Mom was literally shot off Onigashima by a rocket punch and giant rock throw combo, shoulder thrown and rolled down the stairs of Onigashima which turned into a way too long, exaggerated, cringey scene in the anime too and Misery ended up being almost pointless like Smoothie, Snack and especially Compote.


This doesn't help either:

I'm seeing the same issues as I saw in Bleach, Naruto, Fairy Tail and such in OP now and I'm sick of it tbh. We're not even at EOS either, how much worse can this even get? How much more broken will the power creep, power divide and thus powerscaling get?

I love Kidd's new moves, his awakening and such but I do feel he still being downplayed by Oda and the OP community especially but Oda isn't helping that either ofc. I really wanted him and Killer to have a major role vs Kaido, after getting revenge on Queen too and having a solo commander fight and win but my last copium for Kidd is with the Shanks arc and maybe with Laugh Tale/The One Piece but I'm skeptical of that now especially.

Oda is giving so much to Law and I appreciate it as a Law fan too but I wish he wouldn't neglect Kidd so much by comparison and especially wank off Luffy so much too.

I really dread to think how Luffy is going to eclipse everyone there inevitably.

 

[Pooth]

Whats more ridiculous is odas art

 

[Sir Tuna Sandwich II]

Law's awakening is overpowered though ; but yeah luffy will most likely trump it + Joyboy powerup advantage and potential G5

Law's awakening isn't overpowered at all lol
He spend a lot of stamina for an upgrade verison of Rob Lucci's ultimate move - Rokuougan

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

Law feat so far is the best one in Wano,

True

I really look forward to see if and how Joyboy awakened Luffy and Kaido top it.
Everything above that lvl would mean country lvl shit xD.

I’m lookin forward to to them aswell. Especially Luffy, the hype by the elders has me extremely intrigued

It really doesn't help that it took the two of them to take down Big Mom whereas Luffy is going to get a solo win vs Kaido and he's also getting a DF awakening and is presumably Joyboy and Nika or something too. Definitely connected directly somehow ofc.

in what world is Kaido vs 20 people a 1-1?? He’s the main fighter not the only fighter

 

[Gorosei Informer]

True

I’m lookin forward to to them aswell. Especially Luffy, the hype by the elders has me extremely intrigued
in what world is Kaido vs 20 people a 1-1?? He’s the main fighter not the only fighter

He is going to be defeated ALONE that is my point. I didn't say Kaido has been fighting alone the whole time vs Luffy. That is why I said "going to get" too. Luffy is going to get the credit too inevitably and major wanking both by people in the story even more than post WCI by far and also same by people IRL, especially Luffy fanboys and such ofc.

 

[Blackbeard]

Seen how the way the Gorosei hyped this fruit

Zunesha says Joyboy is back

That Luffy has reached the stage of "Joyboy" that Kaido wanted so much

And that Oda said that this year we have to focus on the main character Expect Kid and Law's performance against Big Mom to be overlooked by most One Piece readers.

Monkey D Luffy will ellipse them. Kaido will also show something bigger and ridicule Big Mom even more and Luffy will show something gigantic again and ridicule Kid and Law even more.

@sanjikun @Tyki_Mikk @Luffy is the mc @MonsterKaido @KINGKONGGUN15 @Trafalgar_D_Law @Monkey D Theories @rerere @Pantheos @Lukegranders @AdmiralKinyagi @Gear @SeaTonnes @SEB-99 @Finalbeta @Weatherford @WesMidnight @Rukusho @Iaarm @Roo @Ghostly Reflections @AkagamiNoShankusuuu

The amount of blood Luffy's gear attacks managed to draw from hybrid Kaido looked more impressive, let alone his awakening. Big Mom is less durable than Kaido and she still smiled while encouraging Kid to shoot his Damned Punk right after eating PW, Their awakenings getting overshadowed by Kaido's bombs, the actual finisher, just added insult to injury.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Luffy's awakening is G5 just like Law and Midd's were new attacks, you're expecting too much.