Controversial Law does to Zoro fans, what Zoro does to Sanji fans?

Buggy D Clown

Buggy D Clown

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Lor D. Coast said:
Zoro does something and you have candies, wow I didn't know that Lanji was this strong!
Someone told me this years ago and that mf was absolutely right. The same way that you see candies screeching that Lanji is on par with Zoro and then claim he's also going to be a conqueror, forget Zoro, you have a Vergo level character being wanked as the second coming of Ryuma and Joyboy combined.
In 25 years of OP Lanjifans still haven't figured out that he is the krillin, the Sakura, the Kon of the group and that's sad, you have this group of people that make Itachi fans look sane! :kobeha:
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Idk if you were around back in OJ days back before Katakuri was shown to have CoC. Sanji fans were so sure Zoro would not have CoC and when questioned what if he does have it/get it, there answer was always its impossible but if he does, Sanji will also get it/show it in the same arc.
Same thing with Kaido, I argued that there is a strong chance top supernova including Zoro would face Kaido together with Luffy obviously being one that finishes it, they claimed that that was just wank and that if by some miracle it happens Sanji would be there too.
I actually got quite a few to admit that if Zoro got Conquerors and Sanji didn't same arc that they would admit Zoro is well above Sanji and same thing with the Kaido thing since they are both "impossible for Zoro but if he does Sanji will too"
 
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Formerly Seth

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Monkey D Theories said:
All that was revealed was that immense haki can negate some DF effects. No haki that we have seen can negate all DF effects like the yami yami no mi.

Specifically in regards to Kid, haki cannot negate awakened magnetism. If it could, this wouldn't have happened.

BM had CoC on par with Kaido, Zoro has no such haki portrayal. Yet she couldn't negate assign. So there's absolutely zero evidence that Zoro can as well. And Kid doesn't even need to make contact with zoro for him to use assign to disable his swordsmanship. All it would take would be for Kid to make the ground magnetic.

Anyways I'm not saying Kid> Zoro, but you can't just discount arguments for Kid when imo they are far stronger than the arguments for Law. Law can never be stronger than Zoro because Zoro is supposed to be the next WSSM. Kid on the other hand can. He has portrayal as Luffy's rival and Oda goes out of the way to push that portrayal, despite Kid being much weaker than Luffy. Kid's DF objectively counters swordsmen and other weapons users, with full DF mastery he could be stronger than any pirate bar Luffy and Teach.
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yet she failed to deflect that attack despite using ACoC...
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She didn't use AdvCoC during that fight, if so then her Haki was completely nerfed by Oda to make it a fight LMAO.

Black Lightning is not a clear-cut indication of AdvCoC, unless Ulti had CoC clash with Luffy when they headbutted each other:wellwell:

Kidd admitted he can't use his awakening without help. But even awakening aside, he has to prepare for a big fight by collectint metal from everywhere which was shown when they were running to the roof.

We'll see what Kidd does next and then we can talk about any respect for him. Big Mom bout is majorly Law and that's me being genuine because pushing Big Mom around is not a feat, unless you'd love to agree that Robin and Jinbe are on par with Kidd.

If fights in One Piece worked like that then Kidd would take Zoro's swords and it's over, if they ever fight it's not happening whether because Zoro will negate magnetism with Haki or his grip will be proven too strong for Kidd's devil fruit.
 
bennbeckman

bennbeckman

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Law is cool

Just the 3 Super Die hard Law fans want everyone else to hate Law's guts for some reason... quite odd if you ask me

Based off portray it's fair to say Law is > Zoro. But Zoro having AdvCoC there are fair arguments to make that Zoro is > Law... you will never... everrrrr make any comparisson to Law and Sanji because not a single person... even the most delusional Sanji fans are delusional to the extent to ever think Sanji >= to Law

Zoro fans just tell the facts that Zoro is by far superior (with an absurd amount of proof) than Sanji
 
Lor D. Coast

Lor D. Coast

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Buggy D Clown said:
Idk if you were around back in OJ days back before Katakuri was shown to have CoC. Sanji fans were so sure Zoro would not have CoC and when questioned what if he does have it/get it, there answer was always its impossible but if he does, Sanji will also get it/show it in the same arc.
Same thing with Kaido, I argued that there is a strong chance top supernova including Zoro would face Kaido together with Luffy obviously being one that finishes it, they claimed that that was just wank and that if by some miracle it happens Sanji would be there too.
I actually got quite a few to admit that if Zoro got Conquerors and Sanji didn't same arc that they would admit Zoro is well above Sanji and same thing with the Kaido thing since they are both "impossible for Zoro but if he does Sanji will too"
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They want him to be Zoro so bad..."Lanji is equal to Zoro but he's also going to get the power that makes Zoro so strong to begin with, I can't wait!" The Strawhats have this prime WB level guy and we didn't know about it, Vasco Shot or Lafffite better watch out! :risitavirus:
 
Killer#777

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Seth said:
She didn't use AdvCoC during that fight, if so then her Haki was completely nerfed by Oda to make it a fight LMAO.
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No it just means kid's devil fruit powers are strong enough to overpower her haki. No need to make excuses.
Seth said:
Kidd admitted he can't use his awakening without help.
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What panel does he say this lol?
Seth said:
Big Mom bout is majorly Law and that's me being genuine because pushing Big Mom around is not a feat, unless you'd love to agree that Robin and Jinbe are on par with Kidd.
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No it was kid majority of the fight facing big mom.
 
Welkin

Welkin

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Buggy D Clown said:
Idk if you were around back in OJ days back before Katakuri was shown to have CoC. Sanji fans were so sure Zoro would not have CoC and when questioned what if he does have it/get it, there answer was always its impossible but if he does, Sanji will also get it/show it in the same arc.
Same thing with Kaido, I argued that there is a strong chance top supernova including Zoro would face Kaido together with Luffy obviously being one that finishes it, they claimed that that was just wank and that if by some miracle it happens Sanji would be there too.
I actually got quite a few to admit that if Zoro got Conquerors and Sanji didn't same arc that they would admit Zoro is well above Sanji and same thing with the Kaido thing since they are both "impossible for Zoro but if he does Sanji will too"
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To be fair

For the Strawhats outside of Luffy Zoro is pretty much the benchmark when it comes to stuff like that

If he isn't getting it then no one else is getting it

For example, a lot of people are on the Usopp awakening CoC train now

Do you think Oda would give Usopp CoC and not Zoro?

Zoro unlocking CoC opened the floodgates

" Usopp has CoC, Nami may get CoC, Robin has latent CoC"
 
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Killer#777 said:
No it just means kid's devil fruit powers are strong enough to overpower her haki. No need to make excuses.

What panel does he say this lol?

No it was kid majority of the fight facing big mom.
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When Kidd asks Law to help him and again Law did the most job. Big Mom was more worried about Law's abilities rather than Kidd pushing her.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Seth said:
She didn't use AdvCoC during that fight, if so then her Haki was completely nerfed by Oda to make it a fight LMAO.

Black Lightning is not a clear-cut indication of AdvCoC, unless Ulti had CoC clash with Luffy when they headbutted each other:wellwell:
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This is entirely your headcanon. Ulti isn't a confirmed ACoC user, BM is. Furthermore while black lightning isn't inherently ACoC, those were thick lined black lightning, which is usually ACoC.

Seth said:
Kidd admitted he can't use his awakening without help. But even awakening aside, he has to prepare for a big fight by collectint metal from everywhere which was shown when they were running to the roof.
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Law also said that his mastery in awakening was so bad, that he can't use it in a real battle. Both of them improved throughout the fight.

But then later in the fight Kid literally did it without Law's help
Seth said:
We'll see what Kidd does next and then we can talk about any respect for him. Big Mom bout is majorly Law and that's me being genuine because pushing Big Mom around is not a feat, unless you'd love to agree that Robin and Jinbe are on par with Kidd.
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Robin and Jinbe didn't do this:

Seth said:
If fights in One Piece worked like that then Kidd would take Zoro's swords and it's over, if they ever fight it's not happening whether because Zoro will negate magnetism with Haki or his grip will be proven too strong for Kidd's devil fruit.
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Again, that's your headcanon
Even Bigger Mom struggled to break free of assign. And that was after she infused her body with ACoC.
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Seth said:
Law did the most job. Big Mom was more worried about Law's abilities rather than Kidd pushing her.
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Law did more damage, but Kid tanked her strongest attacks.


 
Killer#777

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Seth said:
When Kidd asks Law to help him and again Law did the most job. Big Mom was more worried about Law's abilities rather than Kidd pushing her.
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Kid's attacks did more damage which is why it took big mom more time to recover. Law's attacks are more dangerous to big mom because they attack her from the inside out whereas kid doesn't require all of that to hurt her because he is using his attacks to crush her through magnetic force.
 
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Monkey D Theories said:
This is entirely your headcanon. Ulti isn't a confirmed ACoC user, BM is. Furthermore while black lightning isn't inherently ACoC, those were thick lined black lightning, which is usually ACoC.



Law also said that his mastery in awakening was so bad, that he can't use it in a real battle. Both of them improved throughout the fight.

But then later in the fight Kid literally did it without Law's help

Robin and Jinbe didn't do this:


Again, that's your headcanon
Even Bigger Mom struggled to break free of assign. And that was after she infused her body with ACoC.
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Law did more damage, but Kid tanked her strongest attacks.


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This is not my headcanon, there are dozens of examples where people had black lightning and they are not advCoC users, stop with the cope.

Kidd asked Law for assistance because he can't use his awakening properly.

He's not doing much to Zoro whereas Zoro might do bad things to Kidd. Kidd doesn't have Haki on Zoro's level and Zoro can negate his DF powers with his superior Haki.

Sorry for replying in the once sentence not separately to each thing but I don't want to expand too much on it.
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Killer#777 said:
Kid's attacks did more damage which is why it took big mom more time to recover. Law's attacks are more dangerous to big mom because they attack her from the inside out whereas kid doesn't require all of that to hurt her because he is using his attacks to crush her through magnetic force.
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Cap.

Law lowered her defenses with his busted DF and BM was sweating about Law attacking her while she was laughing at Kidd's attacks.

Law is the MVP.

Don't reply man, we won't agree over this fr.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Seth said:
This is not my headcanon, there are dozens of examples where people had black lightning and they are not advCoC users, stop with the cope.
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But BM is a confirmed ACoC user. She was pushed to extreme diff.

you saying “she never used ACoC” when I’m showing you multiple panels of her using black lightning is just you choosing to adhere to headcanon.


Seth said:
while she was laughing at Kidd's attacks.
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the one and only time she laughed at Kid’s attack, it’s because she was trying to use soul pocus, an attack that only works if your enemies are afraid.

yet you and everyone else that downplays kid for some reason takes this as some sort of a power level statement. Literally the entire point of that scene was showcasing that BM had lost. Her ultimate homie was defeated, Kid overpowered her physically strength with magnetism, even ACoC did nothing to damned punk.

all BM could do was bluff and try to use soul pocus, then she got called on her bluff and subsequently defeated.

Literally look at any other time Kid faced her apart from when she was trying to use soul pocus and you’ll see she never laughed at his attacks. Most of the time, linlin was shocked by them, some of them even made her sweat. That of course in addition to the real damage they did.
 
Monkey D Theories

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The "BM laughed at Kid's attacks" thing is the biggest propaganda lmao. Here's how BM reacted to Kid's attacks when she wasn't trying to use soul pocus:




Literally every single time, she's startled, worried, and even sweats a little bit.
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Seth said:
She didn't attack Kidd or Law with advCoC attacks once.
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BM coats her entire body with haki


It's how she was able to negate law's teleportation.
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I honestly don't understand people's thinking. BM is a confirmed ACoC user.

We were told she uses CoC against Kid and Law

And then we literally see her coating her body in black lightning. Yet its somehow debatable if BM used ACoC or not.

Yet Zoro does the exact same thing, and nobody questions him using it.

Its almost as if people are pushing an agenda.
 
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Monkey D Theories said:
The "BM laughed at Kid's attacks" thing is the biggest propaganda lmao. Here's how BM reacted to Kid's attacks when she wasn't trying to use soul pocus:




Literally every single time, she's startled, worried, and even sweats a little bit.
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BM coats her entire body with haki


It's how she was able to negate law's teleportation.
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I honestly don't understand people's thinking. BM is a confirmed ACoC user.

We were told she uses CoC against Kid and Law

And then we literally see her coating her body in black lightning. Yet its somehow debatable if BM used ACoC or not.

Yet Zoro does the exact same thing, and nobody questions him using it.

Its almost as if people are pushing an agenda.
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It is not propaganda, it's what was shown on the panel. Funny how you call me biased but you don't look at certain things and act like they don't exist.

Law is the MVP of Big Mom fight.
 
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