Powers & Abilities Law is a swordsman
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Completely wrong. This is the opinion of Ussop.
Just like it was the opinion of Zoro at the beginning that King was swordsman.
Btw I don't care about the rest,but it gets tiring seeing the same shit being spammed as an argument all the time when it isn't factual.
Just like it was the opinion of Zoro at the beginning that King was swordsman.
Btw I don't care about the rest,but it gets tiring seeing the same shit being spammed as an argument all the time when it isn't factual.
Completely wrong. This is the opinion of Ussop.
Just like it was the opinion of Zoro at the beginning that King was swordsman.
Btw I don't care about the rest,but it gets tiring seeing the same shit being spammed as an argument all the time when it isn't factual.
Just like it was the opinion of Zoro at the beginning that King was swordsman.
Btw I don't care about the rest,but it gets tiring seeing the same shit being spammed as an argument all the time when it isn't factual.
Ah yes, since he wrote it as "Usopp", the thoughts are totally independent of Oda because you said so.
KoH dragon Asura style>>>>>KoH dragon style>KoH Asura style>>>>>KoH style>>CoA Asura>>>>>Zoro's CoA>Law's awakening and CoA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Blue flame and baby haki that can't even hurt a jobber like Queen.
Haki surpasses everything, debunk this.
Haki surpasses everything, debunk this.
Swordsman is less about fighting style and more about label.
70% of swordsmen aren't even pure like Shanks or Mihawk.
WSS is basically standing above anyone who is labelled as swordsman. As simple as that.
Whether that label is given by Oda or by character in manga is whatever.
Anything else in either direction is pure cope. Muh df, muh coc, muh elements. Doesn't matter. They can use sword as main theme and they still aren't SM for sure until they get the label. Likewise, they can be like Law but will be swordsmen if author labels them as such.
That's all there is to it. There's no pure, no unpure. There's no limit nor a set precedent. You are in a group called SM if Oda says you are. And the strongest SM is strongest among that group.
So no need to be fanatics pretending you have authority over literal author's words.
70% of swordsmen aren't even pure like Shanks or Mihawk.
WSS is basically standing above anyone who is labelled as swordsman. As simple as that.
Whether that label is given by Oda or by character in manga is whatever.
Anything else in either direction is pure cope. Muh df, muh coc, muh elements. Doesn't matter. They can use sword as main theme and they still aren't SM for sure until they get the label. Likewise, they can be like Law but will be swordsmen if author labels them as such.
That's all there is to it. There's no pure, no unpure. There's no limit nor a set precedent. You are in a group called SM if Oda says you are. And the strongest SM is strongest among that group.
So no need to be fanatics pretending you have authority over literal author's words.
law has a range of abilities that don't even need a sword to be used and the others can be used by any object, be it even a spear or a broomstick.
anyway, swordsmanship is just another one of his abilities... we saw his devil fruit being used to the limit against big mom, but in the end we saw him cutting MIsery with just swordmanship.
anyway, swordsmanship is just another one of his abilities... we saw his devil fruit being used to the limit against big mom, but in the end we saw him cutting MIsery with just swordmanship.
Luffy used a sword early in Wano. Is Luffy a swordsman?
We are arguing over the degrees of sword use/dependence that define a “swordsman”. A “true” swordsman, IMO, is nearly totally dependent on the sword for battling and uses forms instead of df abilities. Law does not meet both of those criteria. Law is a sword user not a swordsman.
A parallel is Luffy and Garp. Luffy is a df user that uses his fists and feet. Garp is the quintessential pugilist. Garp is a “true” boxer. Luffy boxes and does lots of other stuff related to his df.
We are arguing over the degrees of sword use/dependence that define a “swordsman”. A “true” swordsman, IMO, is nearly totally dependent on the sword for battling and uses forms instead of df abilities. Law does not meet both of those criteria. Law is a sword user not a swordsman.
A parallel is Luffy and Garp. Luffy is a df user that uses his fists and feet. Garp is the quintessential pugilist. Garp is a “true” boxer. Luffy boxes and does lots of other stuff related to his df.
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Sorry, but no
This doesn't mean anything
There's no swordsman, DF swordsman and Haki swordsman, this is absolute fanfiction, sorry
Kaku used his DF even more than his swords... and yet calls himself a swordsman, nothing more nothing less
All strong swordsmen, Oden, Zoro, Rayleigh, Mihawk, Shanks, Vista and so on... all of them use Haki... that doesn't make them less swordsmen than they are
Oda labelled all these characters and many others as swordsmen, it's not like he ever cared about this "pure swordsmanship" bullshit, that was never showed, stated or implied in the manga or any source
When Zoro went to Mihawk asking for training... the latter teached him some circus trick with the sword? NO. He teached him HAKI. Is Zoro who uses Haki not a swordsman? And Mihawk who teached him that is not a swordsman?
Now Zoro even learned Advanced Conqueror Haki. He uses that not only to upgrade the power of his slashes, but also even to create some Haki barriers. I guess that makes Zoro not a swordsman anymore, huh?
I mean... this argument is so bad it became a meme
So, with all due respect, this is a terrible argument.
DF swordsman, pure swordsman, Haki swordsman... these things don't exist. The ones labelled as swordsmen are swordsmen, nothing more, nothing less.
This doesn't mean anything
There's no swordsman, DF swordsman and Haki swordsman, this is absolute fanfiction, sorry
Kaku used his DF even more than his swords... and yet calls himself a swordsman, nothing more nothing less
All strong swordsmen, Oden, Zoro, Rayleigh, Mihawk, Shanks, Vista and so on... all of them use Haki... that doesn't make them less swordsmen than they are
Oda labelled all these characters and many others as swordsmen, it's not like he ever cared about this "pure swordsmanship" bullshit, that was never showed, stated or implied in the manga or any source
When Zoro went to Mihawk asking for training... the latter teached him some circus trick with the sword? NO. He teached him HAKI. Is Zoro who uses Haki not a swordsman? And Mihawk who teached him that is not a swordsman?
Now Zoro even learned Advanced Conqueror Haki. He uses that not only to upgrade the power of his slashes, but also even to create some Haki barriers. I guess that makes Zoro not a swordsman anymore, huh?
I mean... this argument is so bad it became a meme
So, with all due respect, this is a terrible argument.
DF swordsman, pure swordsman, Haki swordsman... these things don't exist. The ones labelled as swordsmen are swordsmen, nothing more, nothing less.
Nah that's your own assumption about it, while King's style of fighting (using tools, slingshot head, making fire etc as main attacks) even made Zoro already exclude King from being a swordsman. So if King is excluded, Law's powerlevel is even more unrestricted by WSS since Law is DF-focused, him being a swordsman is purely because he carried a sword. Thats my view about it.
