General & Others Law/Kid Kaido contributions

#1
Ok so, its come to my attention people are generally down on what these 2. Will bring to the table during the clash with kaido. Inspired by @LANJI CUCKSMOKE an his dismissal of the canon.
Now when establishing a timeline. It worth mentioning the above event, is what formally starts the war against kaido. For our pirate alliance anyway. Law cuts down a smile facility, which directly affects kaido business. Starting the war to come.
Here u can see kaido speaking directly on Law/Luffy, messing with his business post doffy defeat.
As we get to wano oda, reiterates the earlier build up. An places kaido focus on Law/Luffy


We also see Kaido openly attempting to attack Luffy/Law. Upon hearing of there whereabouts. Even stating after finishing luffy, he'd deal with law next time around.

So as far as oda concerned, 2 people currently are Kaido main focus. One of them being Law himself. As far as the narration goes, only luffy has comparable build up heading into the showdown. Zoro/Kid while having build up themselves, have nothing actually as direct as Law.

Next we can look at there actually impact. Currently oda introduced 2 methods to us, that should be capable of damaging Kaido. One being emna, the other AcoA haki.

Now its important to pay attention to what oda introduced these methods for, an the extent of there hype. If u pay close attention These methods are solely focused around kaido "SCALES". Emna hype originates from Oden cutting thro kaido scales, an scarring him. While luffy kaido answer also focuses primarily on dealing with kaido scales.


Now with the above said, Oda has confirmed bypassing Kaido durability. To be a "primary" option in combating kaido dragon scales in the coming fight. Which of course is 1 of the primary functions of Laws op op fruit. So as far as the narration goes, Law already has an answer to kaido "scales". He didn't need to pick one up mid arc like luffy/zoro.

Context on fruits usefulness below:
Amputee- A cutting ability capable of bypassing durability. Has already cut thro sea stone. Arguably as useful, if not more then Emna.
MES- Also a durability bypassing Attack, capable of direcly targeting the opponents organs. Arguably the single most useful ability, currently among all kaido Challengers.
GK- Another technique that utilizes bypassing durability. Its capable of also, directly attacking an opponents organs. Tho differs by imploring a cutting angle. Its said to be capable of even bypassing strong haki. Arguably the single most useful ability, currently among all kaido Challengers.
Shambles- When discussing Law u also must bring into a count his incredible supplementary abilities. The Coming battle from what we gathers a team battle. Laws abilities allow him to be helpful to his team offensively, an defensively. Thro shambles he can assist teammates in ways, luffy/kid/zoro just cant come close to. The scenes below best Illustrates that.



Aslo useful in stopping hostage shenanigans:madmonk:
So with everything said:
- I've established a direct connection between Law an kaido.That has been bulit up since PH, an reiterated in wano. Laws currently 1 of kaido main targets on wano.
-Ive also directly established Laws offense as useful in the coming battle. 1 of only 3 people currently with an answer to kaido scales among the alliance.

Its looking like another MVP caliber arc for law. Feel free to speculate on what Kid will bring offensively to the table. I'll be adding his connection to kaido, after i got all the panels together.
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NeutralWatcher

#2
These 2 will play important role.

In PH Law propose an alliance to Luffy. Thanks to that DR and they defeated Doffy. Doffy defeat caused another arc, Wano. So these arcs connect to each other thanks to Law. Moreover before the raid Oda separatis Law from the alliance which makes me think that Oda has big plan for Law.

According to interview Oda has big plan for Kidd even before the creation of supernova. Kaido hyped Kidd as Conqueror haki user. Kidd and Luffy also have parallel. The only supernova to have first mates who also are supernova. Not only that Kidd and Luffy rivalry was highlighted in Udon. Kidd also has the same mission as Luffy to defeat Kaido.

I think those 2 will leave Wano with bounty above 1 billion die to those portrayal.
 

Bogard

You can't win
#3
I wonder how one can read this manga and think a hax devil fruit like Law's can't play a major role in team battles.

Individual powers aside, Law is one of the best team players in this manga. Too much hax to be ignored

- Can swap you to inconvenient positions at any instant with his shambles
- Devil fruit that ignores durability if not haki
- Gamma knife that destroy things from the inside regardless of outside durability

There is a reason why his devil fruit is worth 5Billions and viewed by some as the ultimate devil fruit



Doflamingo even thought that if he had the ope ope no mi ability back in the day, he could have made use of Mariejoa's national treasure to seize true power


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For Kid, he just didn't get the chance to be totally developed thus far, but we know for a fact that he was the one Oda had big plans in when creating the Worst gen

Already highlighted for his conqueror haki in same breath with Luffy by Kaido, with both fighting to know who will beat Kaido in Udon


Has been called "main villain of worst gen" by editors of the popularity poll

The limits of his magnetism powers are still unknown, but if he can do even 1percent of what Magneto can do with his magnetism powers, it'd be terrific
 
#5
Yet both of them haven't beat even a YC...
Thats largely irrelevant...
Kid and especially Law are weaker than DR Luffy.
This is ur opinion, an its a wrong one at that.
Law might be useful with his hax ability but not more than that.
"Might"?? i just directly established laws hax, as more then useful. Its literally directly connected to, one of the offensive oda established as useful against kaido.
Kid will probably have some kind of hax ability too and help Luffy with that because with his CoA even a mountain of metal would be useless against Kaido
could be df or haki related.
 
#10
I don't see someone other than Luffy and Zoro do much if anything against Kaido
Why? Oda himself established Bypassing durability attacks as affective in the Kaido fight. Law primarily fights with that offense.
Base Kaido can one shot Kidd & Law at the same time
Base kaido already one shotted Luffy. An we have virtually no reason to believe zoro any different. Killer could knock him out.
I feel whether or not Law will contribute, GK plot is never happening again
when'd the plot imply this:tchpepe:
 
#11
:myman: Thanks for the invite.
Dont think law does as much as you think he does here but we'll see. it shall inevitably come down to that 1v1 between luffy and kaido.
in previous fights, he lacks the endurance, durability and haki prowess to even beat a high tier like katakuri. best he can hope for is some assist to luffy but I dont expect much.just dont see how someone goes from failing to beat doflamingo
to fatally damaging kaido. matter of fact before this he had hawkins as a warmup. its as wishful as the zoro fans who says he is cutting kaido with little feats on his side. sorry blokes but luffy is just that far ahead of the curve rn. oda showing kid luffy and law in one panel is not a foreshadowing of them taking down kaido albino but ok :whitepress:. no different from people using this
. where they are both told they have a small chance of living.
after the arc I dont see his standing getting close to luffy's either
his crew doesnt have any top guns and he lacks a fleet . it is what it is. I would say kid and luffy have an advantage in the fact they actually went up against kaido before so they know what to expect . law hasnt . I just dont see it. luffy after beating katakuri still got oneshot but we expect law after hawkins to do major damage . yeah okay.


"Base kaido already one shotted Luffy. An we have virtually no reason to believe zoro any different. Killer could knock him out."
correct law isnt much of a better tank than any of those two
so he prob gets the same lol.
 
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Jo_Ndule

#12
Anybody denying Kidd and Law will partake vs BM & Kaido
Is a troll.

There is no build up for Zoro or Sanji vs Kaido. It's a forced plot fanboys pinning by using Enma as argument.

Kidd Law Luffy have direct conflict with Kaido. Especially Kidd and Luffy who want revenge.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#13
Why? Oda himself established Bypassing durability attacks as affective in the Kaido fight. Law primarily fights with that offense.
Base kaido already one shotted Luffy. An we have virtually no reason to believe zoro any different. Killer could knock him out.
when'd the plot imply this:tchpepe:
It's not happening man. Using the same plot against BOTH Doffy and Kaido? Not great mangaka's style.:kayneshrug:
 
#14
Context on fruits usefulness below:
Amputee- A cutting ability capable of bypassing durability. Has already cut thro sea stone. Arguably as useful, if not more then Emna.
MES- Also a durability bypassing Attack, capable of direcly targeting the opponents organs. Arguably the single most useful ability, currently among all kaido Challengers.
GK- Another technique that utilizes bypassing durability. Its capable of also, directly attacking an opponents organs. Tho differs by imploring a cutting angle. Its said to be capable of even bypassing strong haki. Arguably the single most useful ability, currently among all kaido Challengers.
Shambles- When discussing Law u also must bring into a count his incredible supplementary abilities. The Coming battle from what we gathers a team battle. Laws abilities allow him to be helpful to his team offensively, an defensively. Thro shambles he can assist teammates in ways, luffy/kid/zoro just cant come close to. The scenes below best Illustrates that.



Aslo useful in stopping hostage shenanigans:madmonk:
So with everything said:
- I've established a direct connection between Law an kaido.That has been bulit up since PH, an reiterated in wano. Laws currently 1 of kaido main targets on wano.
-Ive also directly established Laws offense as useful in the coming battle. 1 of only 3 people currently with an answer to kaido scales among the alliance.

Its looking like another MVP caliber arc for law. Feel free to speculate on what Kid will bring offensively to the table. I'll be adding his connection to kaido, after i got all the panels together.
About Amputee and MES i don't think this attack can do any thing to Kaido

But Gama Knife is Even More Dangerous and Effective Than ACoA and can do massive Organ Damage and Even can pass Strong CoA but its Very Risky for Law

Shambles is also is Very Effective For Support and Surprise Attack law can Support Attackers by Shambles

Law Probably will lose to Most of YC 1 Vs 1 but his DF is very Effective Against some one Like Kaido that don't Dodge Attack
 
#17
They will surely contribute to help Luffy beat Kaido and weaken the beast even if they will be unable of finishing him themselves.
Law like Luffy is bound to face Kaido and Kid has his beef against the Yonko for smashing and imprisonning him and for what the Beast Pirates did to Killer.
 
#18
About Amputee and MES i don't think this attack can do any thing to Kaido
How so? the attacks both follow the bypassing durability theme. Oda himself highlighted that as a primary counter to kaido scales.
Law Probably will lose to Most of YC 1 Vs 1
By the kaido fight i doubt this will be the case.
but his DF is very Effective Against some one Like Kaido that don't Dodge Attack
True
It's not happening man. Using the same plot against BOTH Doffy and Kaido? Not great mangaka's style.:kayneshrug:
So no canon reason?
:seriously:

Anyway u didn't say why only luffy/zoro will be useful,despite Law also having the means to bypass kaido scales .
 
#19
Thats largely irrelevant...
This is ur opinion, an its a wrong one at that.
"Might"?? i just directly established laws hax, as more then useful. Its literally directly connected to, one of the offensive oda established as useful against kaido.
could be df or haki related.
An opinion based on the manga.
He was no match for Doflamingo without awakening and, if Doflamingo was able to nullify his abilities without going all out, Kaido (who is far stronger and faster than Joker) should be perfectly capable of dealing with him without even trying.
Of course Law's one is a tricky ability, able to give huge support to an actual strong character, Luffy, in a 2 vs 1.
Something similar to what Nami did against Cracker
 
#20
How so? the attacks both follow the bypassing durability theme. Oda himself highlighted that as a primary counter to kaido scales.
By the kaido fight i doubt this will be the case.
True

So no canon reason?
:seriously:

Anyway u didn't say why only luffy/zoro will be useful,despite Law also having the means to bypass kaido scales .
Smoker with his Weapon and Doffy with his String Block this Attack Easily with CoA it's Easily Blockable but it seems that kaido even won't use CoA for Defence So it may Work
 
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