Powers & Abilities Let’s Settle this: Will Oda Give Sanji Conquerors Haki?

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You get that conquerors can show weakness right… after Marineford luffy even doubted his own abilities. But Sanji never lost the will to protect everyone which is why even when given the freedom to run, he stayed to protect the Germa.

Sanji didn’t give up to Gin??? Reread the arc dude. Gin was threatening to kill Zeff, and Sanji didn’t want that to happen so he was going to sacrifice himself in Zeffs place. I don’t get what point you’re trying to make but it’s not the one you’re hoping for.

Sanji never backed down? Like that’s the thing not one point did Sanji stop trying to protect people he cared for. Even with death on the line Sanji never gave up on his ideals.

Zeff and Oda themselves state that Sanji in Baratie have the same will, the same “Spear of Grit” as Zoro and Luffy and that he’s been holding himself back for too long.

You really need to reread cause you’re just actively wrong if you think Sanji gave up in any of those instances lmao
Now you're just cherry picking what you want to hear. If Sanji is as unmoving as you say, then why hasn't Sanji unlocked CoC yet, even after so long?

Not backing out during impossible moments seems to be the key here.

Sanji stayed behind to protect the Germa when he had Luffy, half the crew, Jinbe and Bege on his side. He wasn't like that when it was just nami, chopper and brook.

A little Ace who was withstrained didn't back down from Blue Jam Pirates, neither did he back down from Blackbeard or Whitebeard when he was all alone, Sanji could still move when Zeff was first threatened, instead he chose to stand there and let Pearl take a free shot, the least he could do was defend himself or dodge out the way. That's not even mentioning that the other cooks and Luffy were still alive and conscious.

You also need to re-read baratie again, when Zeff was talking about grit, he was talking about Luffy, NOT Sanji.
 
Now you're just cherry picking what you want to hear. If Sanji is as unmoving as you say, then why hasn't Sanji unlocked CoC yet, even after so long?

Not backing out during impossible moments seems to be the key here.

Sanji stayed behind to protect the Germa when he had Luffy, half the crew, Jinbe and Bege on his side. He wasn't like that when it was just nami, chopper and brook.

A little Ace who was withstrained didn't back down from Blue Jam Pirates, neither did he back down from Blackbeard or Whitebeard when he was all alone, Sanji could still move when Zeff was first threatened, instead he chose to stand there and let Pearl take a free shot, the least he could do was defend himself or dodge out the way. That's not even mentioning that the other cooks and Luffy were still alive and conscious.

You also need to re-read baratie again, when Zeff was talking about grit, he was talking about Luffy, NOT Sanji.
Because it hasn’t been time for Sanji to unlock CoC yet, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have it?

He literally was like that? Before he even knew jinbe and bege was there Sanji already said he was staying to help the Germa. Literally you’re just wrong.

He stood there because if he fought back Gin would pull the trigger. So he let himself take the beating to protect Zeff. And tiny Sanji fought against zeff and the cook pirates, so what’s your point about Ace. Is Ace a bad conqueror cause he was willing to die to save Luffy? Didn’t ace literally give himself up to die in Marineford and told everyone to leave? You’re cherry picking to make your opinion seem like fact.

And you seriously think Zeffs quote saying he “knows another idiot who’s been chewing his spear for no good reason” is about luffy… are you trolling
 
CoC coating is the only thing that gives Zoro the upper hand against Sanji, even by a little bit. Giving Sanji CoC coating will just make him too overpowered even in comparison to Luffy, since it's a great offensive power, and Sanji already has a lot of offensive right now, and room to improve it even further among all the other hints for abilities he might get. I think this is the best reason to not give him CoC, any other makes no sense.

"It isn't on Sanji's character"

Lmao, Sanji is one of the most ambitious characters and has immense willpower. Giving Sanji CoC is literally all just a matter of Oda wanting it or not, but he writes Sanji carefully tho.

Doesn't matter what you think, the writing matters and the manga isn't over yet.

Remember when some people used the "Sanji isn't a Supernova" argue like it made some difference on how he is portrayed and on how strong he is?
I guess that didn't end too well, actually ended in the worst ways possible, most Supernovas got massively clowned from Wano until currently.

If someone wanna fool themselves with color spreads and out of manga infos from decades ago that you think somehow fits an agenda nowadays, be free to do it, this never worked out once anyways lol.

What the manga has been showing us is:

-Oda likes to keep some level of unpredictability and uniqueness for Sanji's character.

-Sanji doesn't fit mere parallels that easily, like Luffy and Zoro do (whatever that means, if it means something, is up to you tho)

Sanji is a pretty good definition of an underdog. He doesn't care for the clout, even if it eventually comes to him naturally (could say the same for Luffy here, in a specific way, he made clear he doesn't wants to be a hero or a ruler)

Oda knows it, and treats it accordingly.
 
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CoC coating is the only thing that gives Zoro the upper hand against Sanji, even by a little bit. Giving Sanji CoC coating will just make him too overpowered even in comparison to Luffy, since it's a great offensive power, and Sanji already has a lot of offensive right now, and room to improve it even further among all the other hints for abilities he might get. I think this is the best reason to not give him CoC, any other makes no sense.

"It isn't on Sanji's character"

Lmao, Sanji is one of the most ambitious characters and has immense willpower. Giving Sanji CoC is literally all just a matter of what Oda wanting it or not, but he writes Sanji carefully tho.

Doesn't matter what you think, the writing matters and the manga isn't over yet.

Remember when some people used the "Sanji isn't a Supernova" argue like it made some difference on how he is portrayed and on how strong he is?
I guess that didn't end too well, actually ended in the worst ways possible, most Supernovas got massively clowned from Wano until currently.

If someone wanna fool themselves with color spreads and out of manga infos from decades ago that you think somehow fits an agenda nowadays, be free to do it, this never worked out once anyways lol.

What the manga has been showing us is:

-Oda likes to keep some level of unpredictability and uniqueness for Sanji's character.

-Sanji doesn't fit mere parallels that easily, like Luffy and Zoro do (whatever that means, if it means something, is up to you tho)

Sanji is a pretty good definition of an underdog. He doesn't care for the clout, even if it eventually comes to him naturally (could say the same for Luffy here, in a specific way, he made clear he doesn't wants to be a hero or a ruler)

Oda knows it, and treats it accordingly.
zoro without adv Coc on the rooftop still has way better feats than sanji will ever have .. yonko feats scaring them countering them and scarring kaido which only oden can do before . Sanji fights Yc2s at his best . Are you reading the same story ? Stop being a delusional fan boy
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What? The sumo wrestler said zoro scary aura made him retreat .
 
So literally you are talking about a bullying moment lol
I can also say that sanji bullied absalom or even nami
No he was intimidated by zoros aura no bullying
Monet was terrified of zoros power and couldn’t use her fruit

where is Sanjis moments like this???
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Obviously Doflamingo used CoC on his Clash against Sanji..


Get your stupid ass post out of here
 
Because it hasn’t been time for Sanji to unlock CoC yet, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have it?

He literally was like that? Before he even knew jinbe and bege was there Sanji already said he was staying to help the Germa. Literally you’re just wrong.

He stood there because if he fought back Gin would pull the trigger. So he let himself take the beating to protect Zeff. And tiny Sanji fought against zeff and the cook pirates, so what’s your point about Ace. Is Ace a bad conqueror cause he was willing to die to save Luffy? Didn’t ace literally give himself up to die in Marineford and told everyone to leave? You’re cherry picking to make your opinion seem like fact.

And you seriously think Zeffs quote saying he “knows another idiot who’s been chewing his spear for no good reason” is about luffy… are you trolling
Doesn't matter what Sanji says, it didn't happen though, Sanji still got help in the end. It didn't last long enough for his wits to be tested.

Little Sanji vs Zeff does work, but the point i was making with Ace was that the Bluejam scene WAS the scene where Ace unlocked CoC when he chose to protect Luffy.

And Zeff's words are referring to Luffy not giving up against Don Krieg, how does this imply that he's referring to Sanji?

 
Doesn't matter what Sanji says, it didn't happen though, Sanji still got help in the end. It didn't last long enough for his wits to be tested.

Little Sanji vs Zeff does work, but the point i was making with Ace was that the Bluejam scene WAS the scene where Ace unlocked CoC when he chose to protect Luffy.

And Zeff's words are referring to Luffy not giving up against Don Krieg, how does this imply that he's referring to Sanji?

He had the Will to do it alone, that’s enough to prove how strong his resolve is.

Zeff literally said not ten chapters later that Sanji had that same spear of grit in him that he’s referring to in the panel you posted.
 
Then you can’t read he never said anything about bullying. He said he retreated due to zoros weird aura
Monet was literally terrified of zoros strength tashigi said it

Now like I said post Sanji moments like that right now !!
I literally have the official chapter in French lol it only talks about intimidation....

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Where does the first image come from :bamathink:
 
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