General & Others Let's imagine SSG!!

[MD Zolo]

We already know that SSG is something Vegapunk is cooking up to replace the Shichibukai. So, SSG is not gonna be weak, that's for sure.

And it seems that Fujitora is even depending on SSG to turn the tides against the Yonkou alliance. So, that's another point in favor of SSG being very strong.

Now, many of us are imagining SSG as the Pacifista 2.0 but we know that Pacifista are complete fodders. So, it is unlikely to be Pacifista 2.0.

So, I think we won't get many faceless or undifferentiable members of SSG. Rather, we will get few very distinct individuals who are very strong.

Hell, I think that these SSGs may well end up being the ultimate enemy that Luffy et al. will have to defeat in order to defeat WG and CDs. It shouldn't be the Marines, because for all of their flaws, Marines aren't the bad guys. And Gorosei are old people, so even though old generation vs. new generation is a great narrative I don't see it happening.

What I am thinking is Android 17 and Android 18 from DBZ. SSG will be like that. In that case, I would like to imagine that:

1. Their leader is a brawler with unmeasurable power - preferably a girl (one can dream)
2. Their second in command is a swordsman - most likely a girl (this will prove Kuina wrong) who isn't a conventional swordsman in the sense that she won't have a named sword.

Being girls is of course, just my preference because I want to see Luffy and Zoro fight life or death battles against females for a change.

 

[Dettles]

My theory is that Vegapunk perfected the Cloning technology even better than the Germa.
So the SSG are artificial Marines that are stronger, faster, (possibly healing factor), and emotionless that will follow any orders.
(Possibly)
Infused with some level of cybernetic enhancements to replicate some Devil Fruit abilities (like lasers) or others.

 

[Master OF Haki]

(Based on one piece community opinion Mihawk is Yonko level) so based on that SSG should be more powerful than a Yonko with Yonko crew combined (well, actually even more Powerful since SSG is stronger than the Shichibukais) SSG is more Powerful than EOS Blackbeard.

 

[HA001]

(Based on one piece community opinion Mihawk is Yonko level) so based on that SSG should be more powerful than a Yonko with Yonko crew combined (well, actually even more Powerful since SSG is stronger than the Shichibukais) SSG is more Powerful than EOS Blackbeard.

You mean based on the one piece manga where shanks is a swordsman and mihawk is the strongest swordsman.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I don't think the SSG are actually fighters. Rather, I think they are simply a science research organization within the marines. The SSG produces weapons of mass destruction that regular marines can use in order to beat people significantly stronger than them.

That's why they are sending Coby to take out hancock, why they literally sent fodder soldiers to take out weevil, and why they are even attempting to take out Mihawk.

Like for example, what if Vegapunk found a way to fit the pacifista lasers into a gun that can be given to a normal marine soldier. All of a sudden, marine fodder have become far more deadly. If you can give fodder that level of firepower, you could easily take out a warlord with a vice admiral and a couple of marine captains.

 

[Master OF Haki]

You mean based on the one piece manga where shanks is a swordsman and mihawk is the strongest swordsman.

I mean in manga where Whitbeard is World's Strongest man combined with a df that can destroy entire world ( Strongest paramicia df) combined with one of the strongest weapons in world but stil only equal to Roger who wasn't the WSM, didn't have a df.

 

[MD Zolo]

(Based on one piece community opinion Mihawk is Yonko level) so based on that SSG should be more powerful than a Yonko with Yonko crew combined (well, actually even more Powerful since SSG is stronger than the Shichibukais) SSG is more Powerful than EOS Blackbeard.

Look! I am not saying this is a totally sane imagination.

But yes, I am saying that I can imagine one or two members of SSG as being more powerful than EoS Blackboard.

I know that there is 99% possibility of me being wrong.

 

[HA001]

I mean in manga where Whitbeard is World's Strongest man combined with a df that can destroy entire world ( Strongest paramicia df) combined with one of the strongest weapons in world but stil only equal to Roger who wasn't the WSM, didn't have a df.

You mean roger the swordsman too.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Look! I am not saying this is a totally sane imagination.

But yes, I am saying that I can imagine one or two members of SSG as being more powerful than EoS Blackboard.

I know that there is 99% possibility of me being wrong.

Tell me a shonen manga in which someone in middle of the story was as powerful or even more than EOS antagonist?

 

[MD Zolo]

Tell me a shonen manga in which someone in middle of the story was as powerful or even more than EOS antagonist?

Well... By that logic, BB was introduced in Jaya. So he can't be EoS antagonist.

I mean Kaguya or Yhwach wasn't introduced in the first 250 chapters, were they?!

 

[Master OF Haki]

You mean roger the swordsman too.

I mean the Roger who wasn't the WSM but still as strong as Whitbeard (in my opinion even more) so why would your Shanks<Mihawk argument work when Roger (who was a man) was as strong as WSM whiteout even a df? So based on this Shanks (who is a swordsmen) can be more powerful than WSS.

 

[HA001]

I mean the Roger who wasn't the WSM but still as strong as Whitbeard (in my opinion even more) so why would your Shanks<Mihawk argument work when Roger (who was a man) was as strong as WSM whiteout even a df? So based on this Shanks (who is a swordsmen) can be more powerful than WSS

Where was it said that wb was wsm when roger was alive ?

Shanks cannot be stronger than mihawk. Or else he would be the wss. A 2 year old would understand this.

 

[Gran D. Master]

Super
Sword
God

They will be stronger than prime Ryuma

 

[Master OF Haki]

Well... By that logic, BB was introduced in Jaya. So he can't be EoS antagonist.

I mean Kaguya or Yhwach wasn't introduced in the first 250 chapters, were they?!

I'm not going to explain you all aspects of storytelling but the fact is, is that Blackbeard is the EOS antagonist for Luffy and his crew.

 

[HA001]

I'm not going to explain you all aspects of storytelling but the fact is, is that Blackbeard is the EOS antagonist for Luffy and his crew.

No he isnt. Hes next. The marines and wg are last.

 

[MD Zolo]

@Master OF Haki, @HA001 and @Gran D. Master, this is not a thread to argue who is Swordsman and who is not. Please keep that talk inside @trav's thread.

 

[MD Zolo]

I'm not going to explain you all aspects of storytelling but the fact is, is that Blackbeard is the EOS antagonist for Luffy and his crew.

You were telling me to give examples of Shonen manga. I did.

It is time you do too and not teach me storytelling. Because as far as storytelling is concerned, WG is the EoS opponent.

 

[Gran D. Master]

@Master OF Haki, @HA001 and @Gran D. Master, this is not a thread to argue who is Swordsman and who is not. Please keep that talk inside @trav's thread.

 

[Kurodiamondo]

Imo, level : SSG < YC3 (shanks' YC) but there a 7-10 of them. Enough to capture Hancock but not Mihawk. SSG is a well-trained like Chiper Pol, master basic haki (fullbody armament, faster/wider observation, some have conqueror haki), not mindless like Pacifista, DF user, using high tech weapon and pretty skilled, using armor/suit like germa

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Imo, level : SSG < YC3 (shanks' YC) but there a 7-10 of them. Enough to capture Hancock but not Mihawk. SSG is a well-trained like Chiper Pol, master basic haki (fullbody armament, faster/wider observation, some have conqueror haki), not mindless like Pacifista, DF user, using high tech weapon and pretty skilled, using armor/suit like germa

SSG was enough to replace Shichibukai with Mihawk in it.
You can say only a part of it will not be enough to capture Mihawk, but the entire SSG > all Shichibukai