General & Others Let's imagine SSG!!

[Kurodiamondo]

SSG was enough to replace Shichibukai with Mihawk in it.
You can say only a part of it will not be enough to capture Mihawk, but the entire SSG > all Shichibukai

Yes that's what i want a say. Thank you for correcting

 

[Master OF Haki]

Where was it said that wb was wsm when roger was alive ?

Shanks cannot be stronger than mihawk. Or else he would be the wss. A 2 year old would understand this.

When was it said that Mihawk wasn't WSS when he and Shanks fought? When it said that Shanks was ever defeated by Mihawk?
Strength has deferent sources let's say a swordsmen with a df defeat Mihawk (due to his df but not through his swordsmanship) since Mihawk is WSS, does that mean that df user swordsmen is now WSS? Of course not, since he didn't defeat Mihawk with his swordsmanship his strength came from his DF and he had an advantage over Mihawk.

 

[HA001]

When was it said that Mihawk wasn't WSS when he and Shanks fought? When it said that Shanks was ever defeated by Mihawk?
Strength has deferent sources let's say a swordsmen with a df defeat Mihawk (due to his df but not through his swordsmanship) since Mihawk is WSS, does that mean that df user swordsmen is now WSS? Of course not, since he didn't defeat Mihawk with his swordsmanship his strength came from his DF and he had an advantage over Mihawk.

No. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman.

Cabaji spat fire and used spinning tops zoro still classed it as a swordsmans duel.
Unless you think zoro and mihawk will fight without haki.

 

[JazzMazz]

My theory is that Vegapunk perfected the Cloning technology even better than the Germa.
So the SSG are artificial Marines that are stronger, faster, (possibly healing factor), and emotionless that will follow any orders.
(Possibly)
Infused with some level of cybernetic enhancements to replicate some Devil Fruit abilities (like lasers) or others.

So uh, you mean like the Pacifista?

Which literally perfectly fit what you described.

Like, I could easily see the SSG thing being an army of powered up completed Pacifista's. They already had a test run in Sabadoy and Marineford, and were intentionally hidden from the public, so I could definitely see a massive army of supped up completed Pacifista being at least a part of the SSG's project.

Even the prototype Pacifista's were pretty tough, but several hundred or a thousand of superior designed Pacifista's would be monstrous.

 

[Master OF Haki]

No. Mihawk is the strongest swordsman.

Cabaji spat fire and used spinning tops zoro still classed it as a swordsmans duel.
Unless you think zoro and mihawk will fight without haki.

The whole point of that fight was that Cabaji wasn't fighting fair, he was using dirty tricks.
But let me give you another example, let's say a swordsmen df user fights with WSS and during that fight his sword gets destroyed, but he continues to fight with him only with his df for a day and defeats WSS does that count to?

 

[JazzMazz]

I'm thinking that at least part of it, is just a massive army of powered up Pacifista.

We saw the prototypes in action Pre-time skip, and they were already incredibly strong singularly, requiring the entire pre-time skip crew(who weren't pushovers) to beat one of them.

An army of several hundred or even a thousand Pacifista, that are stronger than the ones that were defeated at Sabadoy would be a devastating military force.

 

[JazzMazz]

I don't think the SSG are actually fighters. Rather, I think they are simply a science research organization within the marines. The SSG produces weapons of mass destruction that regular marines can use in order to beat people significantly stronger than them.

That's why they are sending Coby to take out hancock, why they literally sent fodder soldiers to take out weevil, and why they are even attempting to take out Mihawk.

Like for example, what if Vegapunk found a way to fit the pacifista lasers into a gun that can be given to a normal marine soldier. All of a sudden, marine fodder have become far more deadly. If you can give fodder that level of firepower, you could easily take out a warlord with a vice admiral and a couple of marine captains.

Or you could just make an army of completed Pacifista?

Like, an army of upgraded, physically more capable Pacifista seems like it would be an absolutely devastating fighting force...

 

[style]

I read somewhere a theory regarding clones of seven powerful pirates/warriors of the past.

It could be, but it would be too similar to Naruto

 

[kurwa]

SSG being stronger than Mihawk would make sense
Since being in Pirate King's crew the lowest possible lvl for a crewmate is Mihawk

Luffy sums it up:

 

[Finalbeta]

My theory is that Vegapunk perfected the Cloning technology even better than the Germa.
So the SSG are artificial Marines that are stronger, faster, (possibly healing factor), and emotionless that will follow any orders.
(Possibly)
Infused with some level of cybernetic enhancements to replicate some Devil Fruit abilities (like lasers) or others.

I think they are going to be used in the final war.

I will be disappointed if it's the pacifista instead.

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

SSG being stronger than Mihawk would make sense
Since being in Pirate King's crew the lowest possible lvl for a crewmate is Mihawk

Luffy sums it up:

 

[Master OF Haki]

@Master OF Haki, @HA001 and @Gran D. Master, this is not a thread to argue who is Swordsman and who is not. Please keep that talk inside @trav's thread.

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist but to troll Zoro Fan Boys. Now I've got my portion of joy and laugh so I will stop.

 

[Garp the Fist]

SSG is the Admirals, Garp and Sengoku docking together.

Being serious, Vegapunk's greatest invention I think will be a combination of all things he's been said to be involved in so far. So that's
-Genetically enigineered lifeforms
-seastone usage in vehicles
-artificial devil fruits
-feeding objects to devil fruits
-cyborgs

If he's managed to make a seastone infused, devil fruit power using genetically engineered giant cyborg, that would be insane.

 

[Master OF Haki]

You were telling me to give examples of Shonen manga. I did.

It is time you do too and not teach me storytelling. Because as far as storytelling is concerned, WG is the EoS opponent.

It doesn't change anything. Even if you think that WG is EOS antagonist ok, but there is no way that SSG is going to be more powerful than the Admirals or Im (if he's strong) which means a simple thing that Mihawk isn't a Yonko level but around YC.

 

[Gran D. Master]

But let me give you another example, let's say a swordsmen df user fights with WSS and during that fight his sword gets destroyed, but he continues to fight with him

So a swordsman who was weakened because he lost his sword, still managed to defeat the WSS using his DF alone? So how did he even manage to get his sword broken in the first place, if he was strong enough to defeat the WSS without even being at his full strength?

 

[Master OF Haki]

So a swordsman who was weakened because he lost his sword, still managed to defeat the WSS using his DF alone? So how did he even manage to get his sword broken in the first place, if he was strong enough to defeat the WSS without even being at his full strength?

Because he was a bad swordsmen but great df user.
I can even represent another example, let's say he lost an arm with sword it doesn't change the point.

 

[Gran D. Master]

Because he was a bat swordsmen but great df user.

Well then if I was that person I would drop the sword and focus on improving my ability with the df alone, since clearly my potential as a pure df user is greater than my potential as a df swordsman

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

SSG is the Admirals, Garp and Sengoku docking together.

Being serious, Vegapunk's greatest invention I think will be a combination of all things he's been said to be involved in so far. So that's
-Genetically enigineered lifeforms
-seastone usage in vehicles
-artificial devil fruits
-feeding objects to devil fruits
-cyborgs

If he's managed to make a seastone infused, devil fruit power using genetically engineered giant cyborg, that would be insane.

Fuji called it outrageous, whether it´s outrageous because of its strength or because nobody thought about it, both are possible

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

I'd say it's not really power level related thing
I'd say it's a weapon OR weapons

So, I wouldn't compare the invention to human beings power scaling

Rather, I'd compare it to "Ancient Weapons"

Since Ancient weapons are anyway also inventions but from the old civilization... I wouldn't be surprised to see Vegapunk.. the main said to have knowledge 500 years ahead if his time... to be smart enough to rival people of the anciebt kingdom in terms of inventions

So... what I wanna say is that the weapon will be SO hax generally.... but there will be certain individuals with special powers like specific DFs or even a very Advanced Haki level that allows them to not get affected...

 

[Master OF Haki]

Well then if I was that person I would drop the sword and focus on improving my ability with the df alone, since clearly my potential as a pure df user is greater than my potential as a df swordsman

Why though? Combining multiple powers make you stronger if that guy was fighting against someone who wasn't a swordsmen he would have an advantage over him but fighting with a sword against WSS made it disadvantage so he used his df alone to defeat him.