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You are basically saying that would be okay if Tama beats Kaido by her pure strength.
You are basically misreading what is actually there. There are no power levels, so there is no threshold of strength allotted to characters in attack or defense to raise collectively. Roger was killed by regular guys, Kaido and Whitebeard were wounded by people well beneath them.

The ability of Haki/Rokushiki changes many things, but it's skill WITH that Haki, not just strength. Physically there's no reason Luffy would be stronger now than he was in chapter 1000, but his Haki usage is significantly different. Oda uses context like this or unique interactions to dictate. Could Zoro do anything vs Ener in Skypiea? Of course not. Does that mean Luffy would easily destroy Ohm? Fuck no.
 
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#27
You are basically misreading what is actually there. There are no power levels, so there is no threshold of strength allotted to characters in attack or defense to raise collectively. Roger was killed by regular guys, Kaido and Whitebeard were wounded by people well beneath them.

The ability of Haki/Rokushiki changes many things, but it's skill WITH that Haki, not just strength. Physically there's no reason Luffy would be stronger now than he was in chapter 1000, but his Haki usage is significantly different. Oda uses context like this or unique interactions to dictate. Could Zoro do anything vs Ener in Skypiea? Of course not. Does that mean Luffy would easily destroy Ohm? Fuck no.
No I'm not misreading. You are the one coming back with your word.

Power levels exists.

Zoro could have beated Enel if Oda wasn't inconsistent. He learned haki at Alabasta, no reason to not cut Enel too.

Characters in One Piece are clearly, Yonko Level, Admiral Level, Commander Level, Rookie Level, Fodder Level etc.

But characters have different abilities and qualities. Luffy for example is immune to bullets and punches/kicks/throwns. So no matter how strong you are even stronger than Luffy if you don't know haki or doesn't have cutting/explosion abilities you can't defeat him. That applies to Kaido only being hurt by ACoA and ACoC(that Oda retconned) and BM haki coat that Bege made a whole plan to drop it down.

Whenever you say power levels doesn't exists you are strictly saying someone like Tama can defeat what we beleive to be the strongest or one of the strongest character of One Piece.
 
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No I'm not misreading. You are the one coming back with your word.

Power levels exists.

Zoro could have beated Enel if Oda wasn't inconsistent. He learned haki at Alabasta, no reason to not cut Enel too.

Characters in One Piece are clearly, Yonko Level, Admiral Level, Commander Level, Rookie Level, Fodder Level etc.

But characters have different abilities and qualities. Luffy for example is immune to bullets and punches/kicks/throwns. So no matter how strong you are even stronger than Luffy if you don't know haki or doesn't have cutting/explosion abilities you can't defeat him. That applies to Kaido only being hurt by ACoA and ACoC(that Oda retconned) and BM haki coat that Bege made a whole plan to drop it down.

Whenever you say power levels doesn't exists you are strictly saying someone like Tama can defeat what we beleive to be the strongest or one of the strongest character of One Piece.
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Zoro couldn't have beaten Ener back then. Even if he understood that the breath of all things applied to logia, Ener's observation and lightning speed were defensively sound and he lacked Luffy's unconscious defense. On TOP of that, Ener was actually a physically strong combatant, as Zoro directly stated. Going from fight to fight and dealing with a logia who could seriously hurt him in very short order made it impossible.

Now look at all these dumbass labels you apply and tell me where Oda has ever used any caption. If you can't pull a scan of "Fodder level" or whatever, something that backs up your bullshit while forcing Oda to contradict his own statements rather than interpretation, please don't quote me anymore. From what I see on these boards your reading comprehension is terrible and I gave you the benefit of what seems like a language barrier, but that's not a good enough excuse.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#35
you can try, but it happened and just underlined how much endurance kid has.
It highlights how trash Linlin’s attack power is that Kidd’s more concerned with a headache then getting hit with Linlin’s full strength forced behind a homie sword amplified by another homie. It’s easier to ignore it and pretend Linlin isn’t that disappointing
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#39
Yeah instead of giving someone a W, let’s downplay an Yonko.
Yeah, because that scene does more to clown Linlin than hype Kidd. Kidd can have exceptional durability but Wano has been the arc of Oda making it very well known when characters have top tier durability—he isn’t leaving it up to reader interpretation. Kidd isn’t a Kaido, King or Linlin.

But on his hands and knees defenseless, Linlin failed to do any big damage to Kidd when using a named move + two homies. There’s really no way to salvage that scene for Linlin.
 
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