Character Discussion Lets Talk Monster Trio: Who do you Relate to the most?
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For me, it is Zoro.
Striving for greatness even tho one knows that road would not be easy. Working hard while not compromise on one ethics. Aspire to be a better version of oneself, physically and mentally.
As Socrates once said : “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and the strength of which his body is capable”.
Striving for greatness even tho one knows that road would not be easy. Working hard while not compromise on one ethics. Aspire to be a better version of oneself, physically and mentally.
As Socrates once said : “No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and the strength of which his body is capable”.
It's easier to relate, for adults, to a flawed man than to a super hero. I don't understand how you are not getting it.
If you judge Sanji only by gags, again, you fail to understand the other side of the character.
Sanji struggles with his identity, his family, his morals, while the only struggle zoro has is muh strength.
Wanting to be like zoro feels like being like Patrick Bateman or Andrew Tate, muh training muh grindset.
If you judge Sanji only by gags, again, you fail to understand the other side of the character.
Sanji struggles with his identity, his family, his morals, while the only struggle zoro has is muh strength.
Wanting to be like zoro feels like being like Patrick Bateman or Andrew Tate, muh training muh grindset.
When a “gag” literally becomes a point of life-or-death when his nosebleed almost killed him then that literally defines a major part of his character. Dude literally went against his morals of wearing his raid suit and USED it to fucking peep at a women’s bathroom.
You’ve listed good points but at the end of the day, the points I listed are undeniable either. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Pot calling the kettle black much? You’re reducing Zoro to a couple of simple points just like you thought I did for Sanji (which wasn’t what I was trynna do btw). He is also about loyalty and keeping promises.
His dream is because of his best friend that died pre-maturely and wants to keep that promise. And now that promise has been passed on through his captain.
He’s so loyal to his friends he’s willing to die for them.
He’s like Luffy in that he is kind to children and never underestimates women either. Unlike Sanji who has this stupid rule of never hitting women even if your friends are in danger.
He’s about chilling in life while not training or working. Not making a loud ruckus or wanting attention unlike a certain simp who’s always starting shit with others for no reason other than proving himself to be the superior ladies man.
If you ask me Sanji’s treatment of women is probably closer to Andrew Tate’s.
You’ve listed good points but at the end of the day, the points I listed are undeniable either. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
Pot calling the kettle black much? You’re reducing Zoro to a couple of simple points just like you thought I did for Sanji (which wasn’t what I was trynna do btw). He is also about loyalty and keeping promises.
His dream is because of his best friend that died pre-maturely and wants to keep that promise. And now that promise has been passed on through his captain.
He’s so loyal to his friends he’s willing to die for them.
He’s like Luffy in that he is kind to children and never underestimates women either. Unlike Sanji who has this stupid rule of never hitting women even if your friends are in danger.
He’s about chilling in life while not training or working. Not making a loud ruckus or wanting attention unlike a certain simp who’s always starting shit with others for no reason other than proving himself to be the superior ladies man.
If you ask me Sanji’s treatment of women is probably closer to Andrew Tate’s.
You say Zoro is about loyalty and keeping promises, when is the last time that any of those trait has appeared? I don't think he saying to Luffy "i will never lose again" counts as being loyal, because it, again, falls under the umbrella of "getting stronger". (Also he kept losing all along, like Eneru, Kuma, Pacifistas, but I won't get into a power leveling discussion.)
The last time Zoro has shown any personality at all was probably at Thriller Bark, he is one of Oda's worst victims. He sacrificed himself for luffy's dream, and that was the last time he did anything beside "getting stronger".
You mention Kuina, You mention the sacrifice. None of those thigns have been relevant for ages.
Zoro, like Usopp, like Luffy, like Chopper, have lost most of their depth as characters, and reduced to stereotypical archetypes.
Not that Sanji is any different, but to make an example, Sanji's morals played a great part in his last fight with Queen, both about not hitting women and not using RAID suit.
The last time Zoro has shown any personality at all was probably at Thriller Bark, he is one of Oda's worst victims. He sacrificed himself for luffy's dream, and that was the last time he did anything beside "getting stronger".
You mention Kuina, You mention the sacrifice. None of those thigns have been relevant for ages.
Zoro, like Usopp, like Luffy, like Chopper, have lost most of their depth as characters, and reduced to stereotypical archetypes.
Not that Sanji is any different, but to make an example, Sanji's morals played a great part in his last fight with Queen, both about not hitting women and not using RAID suit.
It's not about just working hard. It's about doing things the way you want them to and not having any flaws. Zori is an almost perfect guy. That's not how peeps in the real world operate. It's not an everyday thing that you find guys as perfect Zori. Even those who are supposedly working hard, don't have their shit together and aren't leading their lives the way they want it. You'll understand when you get old enough.
First time Zoro fought Mohawk he got destroyed and one of his swords broken to boot. Got his ass beat by Arlong with Sanji. Got his ass beaten by Enel. Went extreme-diff with Kaku. Did jack shit to Oars as a last stand. Going to the guy he wants to surpass and asking him to teach him the way of the sword. That’s humility and common sense to ask the best to teach you. I know you like to ride Zoro but he is FAR from perfect. Don’t let the last couple of arcs cloud your judgment of how much shit Zoro had to go through. And lmao I have a professional degree in Electrical Engineering so you can cut that “old enough“ crap.
Almost perfect guy is someone like Shanks who Oda constantly keeps sucking off every time he’s on screen and got a whole ass movie to himself where he looks like Jesus in front of the whole Marines who are supposed to be the good guys.
Almost perfect guy is someone like Shanks who Oda constantly keeps sucking off every time he’s on screen and got a whole ass movie to himself where he looks like Jesus in front of the whole Marines who are supposed to be the good guys.
Having a perfect personality and a perfect life are two different things. You can fail and still have a flawless personality. Until Zoro met Mihawk, he thought he was qualified enough to fight the WSS. Now, a normal person in a real-world setting wouldn't challenge the world's best with such confidence. But Zoro did. A guy from the real world would give up or become downright depressed a few seconds into the fight with Mihawk. Zoro, however, surprised Mihawk with his conviction, meaning it's unusual behavior even for the OP standards. Sanji had a more practical approach to the issue that's actually relatable to people from the real world.
What's more, Zoro overcomes the depression from losing seconds after the fight and becomes more determined to pursue his dream right after witnessing the vast difference b/w himself and the world's best. Irl, your average guy would spend months on the bed getting nightmares about his defeat. He probably gives up on his dream altogether.
I'd be rolling on the floor bitching about how I've got the biggest scar in the world if I were told to face Arlong after fighting Mihawk, but Zori doesn't do that. He just forces his ass to stand up and fight Arlong regardless of his injuries. You don't even see him using his wound as an excuse as to why he's losing the fight. I can keep going like this...
These are things only the perfect guys would do. That's why I said they're too impractical for a real-world setting.
What's more, Zoro overcomes the depression from losing seconds after the fight and becomes more determined to pursue his dream right after witnessing the vast difference b/w himself and the world's best. Irl, your average guy would spend months on the bed getting nightmares about his defeat. He probably gives up on his dream altogether.
I'd be rolling on the floor bitching about how I've got the biggest scar in the world if I were told to face Arlong after fighting Mihawk, but Zori doesn't do that. He just forces his ass to stand up and fight Arlong regardless of his injuries. You don't even see him using his wound as an excuse as to why he's losing the fight. I can keep going like this...
These are things only the perfect guys would do. That's why I said they're too impractical for a real-world setting.
I cant relate myself to a chosen one nor to an artificially created human who is also a simp.
Zoros hard work and determination are what i relate to the most,even though his ungodly will to keep going forward is unrealistic i understand its necessary for his character in a shonen manga.
Sanji can be very relatable too mostly young sanji
Zoros hard work and determination are what i relate to the most,even though his ungodly will to keep going forward is unrealistic i understand its necessary for his character in a shonen manga.
Sanji can be very relatable too mostly young sanji
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Sanji is the most relatable. He likes women, he’s outgoing and cunning. He has very apparent flaws.
I don’t have a focused type of ambition for one thing like Zoro, the guy only thinks about achieving his dream 24/7. I guess his principles and traditional mindset is relatable. The way he puts it into practice is too unrealistic though.
Goofy is just not a person you’ll ever see in real life. Least relatable out of the three.
I don’t have a focused type of ambition for one thing like Zoro, the guy only thinks about achieving his dream 24/7. I guess his principles and traditional mindset is relatable. The way he puts it into practice is too unrealistic though.
Goofy is just not a person you’ll ever see in real life. Least relatable out of the three.
