Powers & Abilities Lineage Factor and the Vinsmoke children

#21
Its probably double invisibility. Since the Stealth invisibility probably doesnt work on clothes.
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StealthBlack exists in the comics...
Again and I don't believe this invisibility doesn't work on his suit. Not in OP a shonen manga

And yeah I know he is in the comics... But again he can be Stealth Black and still have an power which suits his invisbilty. Same as Yonji
 
#22
Again and I don't believe this invisibility doesn't work on his suit. Not in OP a shonen manga

And yeah I know he is in the comics... But again he can be Stealth Black and still have an power which suits his invisbilty. Same as Yonji
Stealth Black is a invisible person...end of.

If Sanji wore Niji's suit hed get electricity. If he wore Ichiji he would get sparks. The suit would enhance his invisibility. However since Sanji doesnt have a base invisible power. He only gets bare minimum invisibility.
 
#23
Stealth Black is a invisible person...end of.

If Sanji wore Niji's suit hed get electricity. If he wore Ichiji he would get sparks. The suit would enhance his invisibility. However since Sanji doesnt have a base invisible power. He only gets bare minimum invisibility.
This makes no sense. But I think we have other views on it... But only Oda can tell.

But to be honest. Even at WCI he made a piss poor job explaining it
 
#27
I see no sense in having the suit turning invisible if he could do so himself

And again... No I don't believe in your the suit wouldn't turn invisible and that's why it need that powers.

Would make no sense and mean that Sanji without suit needed to be naked all the time
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Vegapunk and Judge extract Devil Fruit to be a Raid Suit.

this mean there is no double invisibility for Sanji because invisibility only applied on "Stealth Black" Raid Suit.
The Vinsmoke kids dont have buffed power if they're not wearing raid suit.

But with Sanji, he have power from the Diable Jambe which is we still dont know the origin.
We have seen Niji doing his moves without suit and all of them as toddlers without suit showing their powers
 
#28
I see no sense in having the suit turning invisible if he could do so himself

And again... No I don't believe in your the suit wouldn't turn invisible and that's why it need that powers.

Would make no sense and mean that Sanji without suit needed to be naked all the time
Maybe he’d have something else that works with the stealth theme, like the Speed Speed fruit (Niji’s stealth is based on his insane speed).
 
#30
The question is, Why vegapunk lied about Momo's DF being failure when it clearly isnt, its as good as real DF unlike gifters ?
maybe he wanted to overcome the DF weakness of drowning in sea and couldnt achieve it...
But judge overcame it and his children can swim
so maybe the army of Marines which Vegapunk created is now normal people fully capable of DF abilities without the need to be experimented on when they were born,
He probably can choose any troop and use the lineage technology and give him DF ability while at the same time no affect of Sea water and they can still swim
maybe he has an army of MagoMagoNoMi power users :steef::steef::steef:
 
#31
But why would they be able to swim and Momo can’t ?
Maybe they were modified to swim and Momo just ate a artificial DF.
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Vegapunk and Judge extract Devil Fruit to be a Raid Suit.

this mean there is no double invisibility for Sanji because invisibility only applied on "Stealth Black" Raid Suit.
The Vinsmoke kids dont have buffed power if they're not wearing raid suit.

But with Sanji, he have power from the Diable Jambe which is we still dont know the origin.
Niji has used electricity without the RS
 
#33
It's obious Sanji would have gotten invisibility powers if Judge modifications manifested in him based on his epithet "Stealth Black" and the "Sora comic" in North Blue, just like how Niji could use electricity in his base form without the aid of his Raid Suit. I'm very certain the rest of the Vinsmoke siblings could use their powers without their RS too.

What we know about Sanji's DJ for now is that it's tied to his emotions. We also know that Sora's drug primary goal was to preserve the emotions of Sanji and his brothers that Judge wanted to get rid of. So it's very probable that Sora's drug has something to do with DJ as both are tied to emotions.

My theory for now is that the unexpected combination between Sora's drug and Judge's lineage factor modifications present in Sanji (I think it was mentioned that at the genetic level Sanji is modified like his siblings but he didn't manifest any of his intended powers obviously thanks to Sora's drug) gave Sanji the ability to manifest his emotions especially anger in the form of fire and flames namely the DJ.
 
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#34

"Linage Factor" is considered an attribute to god himself. It's basically like a strand of DNA that can affect a human's life.


And then Sora took a drug that altered the lineage factors that only affected Sanji. Sanji is deemed a failure because he didn't get to receive the bloodline elements which includes exoskeleton, invisibility (for Sanji), etc.

About DJ, I'm still think that fire comes from Sanji's emotion. Nothing to do with Sora's drug imo.
 
#35
It's obious Sanji would have gotten invisibility powers if Judge modifications manifested in him based on his epithet "Stealth Black" and the "Sora comic" in North Blue, just like how Niji could use electricity in his base form without the aid of his Raid Suit. I'm very certain the rest of the Vinsmoke siblings could use their powers without their RS too.

What we know about Sanji's DJ for now is that it's tied to his emotions. We also know that Sora's drug primary goal was to preserve the emotions of Sanji and his brothers that Judge wanted to get rid of. So it's very propable that Sora's drug has something to do with DJ as both are tied to emotions.

My theory for now is that the unexpected combination between Sora's drug and Judge's lineage factor modifications present in Sanji (I think it was mentioned that at the genetic level Sanji is modified like his siblings but he didn't manifest any of his intended powers obviously thanks to Sora's drug) gave Sanji the ability to manifest his emotions especially anger in the form of fire and flames namely the DJ.
Again why should his suit make him invisible on top if he could do already
 
#37
Again why should his suit make him invisible on top if he could do already
Why should Reiju's suit give her poison powers instead of something else? Or why should Niji's suit give him electric powers instead of something else eventhough he could use electricity on his own? Answer these questions first before wondering about Sanji's RS.
 
#38
Because they seem to enhance the powers they have. But explain me how you enhance invisbilty
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Or if we look the other way. If the RS doesn't do much to their powers besides the basic stuff... Why Sanji should get an invisible suit if he could do so.

Niji at least got a lightning sword and Yonji some gadget arms
 
#39
Because they seem to enhance the powers they have. But explain me how you enhance invisbilty
If Sanji was modified, he could just be able to be transparent without RS but completely invisible wearing the RS. There could also be many other explanations but this is the most propable for me.
 
#40
If Sanji was modified, he could just be able to be transparent without RS but completely invisible wearing the RS. There could also be many other explanations but this is the most propable for me.
Even if you are right. We don't know this. And that's why I hope we someday will learn what Sanji's dormant powers would be WITHOUT the suit.

If it is just invisbilty it is stupid as fuck if the suit does so but at least we would know it.
 
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