General & Others List of Plot Points that need to be addressed before One Piece ends (and why OP will NOT end in 5 years)!!!!
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The only dream that has been wanked and talked since pre ts, a lot is Luffy's
We dont even see where nami draws map anymore
Where Robin gaining knowledge except read ponegkyphs if not then she is irrelevant
Sanji dream is a joke
Zoro dream well, has only been fighting boring swordmen.
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The only dream that has been wanked and talked since pre ts, a lot is Luffy's
We dont even see where nami draws map anymore
Where Robin gaining knowledge except read ponegkyphs if not then she is irrelevant
Sanji dream is a joke
Zoro dream well, has only been fighting boring swordmen.
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Who even says that there are plot elements Oda NEEDS TO address before One piece ends ?
- That's just what we as the fandom want to know, but the ultimate decision whether he includes it or not will be made by Oda, and not us.
Oda is doing this for 20+ years, that guy wants to rest already, they decided to bring out VC/cover story's, so that he can take things away from the actual Manga.
More than half of the list will be solved in the last two arcs, while 30-40% have a high chance of not getting mentioned at all.
- That's just what we as the fandom want to know, but the ultimate decision whether he includes it or not will be made by Oda, and not us.
Oda is doing this for 20+ years, that guy wants to rest already, they decided to bring out VC/cover story's, so that he can take things away from the actual Manga.
More than half of the list will be solved in the last two arcs, while 30-40% have a high chance of not getting mentioned at all.
Most of one piece chapters and arcs are fillers anyways. The manga is too bloated to be honest, so yes I think he can finish up one piece in around 200 chapters. He can easily write each to 50 -60 chapters if he wants. Just look at Wano, the plot moves much faster in the inter arc chapters which are usually 1 or 2.
The problem though is the fights aside from Luffy fights, most of the other fights will become one-shots and off panels. We already saw how he off paneled the Oden vs Ashura fight. I guess most of the future fights will take such an approach. He will be showing the opening sequence then a time jump where the fighters are then shown all bloodied just before the final clash/rush that decided the winner. And I'm actually okay with that. I would rather he focus on delivering the plot points that he has been teasing for close to 1000 chapters.
The problem though is the fights aside from Luffy fights, most of the other fights will become one-shots and off panels. We already saw how he off paneled the Oden vs Ashura fight. I guess most of the future fights will take such an approach. He will be showing the opening sequence then a time jump where the fighters are then shown all bloodied just before the final clash/rush that decided the winner. And I'm actually okay with that. I would rather he focus on delivering the plot points that he has been teasing for close to 1000 chapters.
I completely disagree obviously that these dreams are "jokes". But I guess we'll wait and see.
The ultimate decision is obviously Oda's, but why would he foreshadow and set up these plot lines if he just plans to leave them as loose ends. That'd be inconsistent with how he writes his manga in general.
The ultimate decision is obviously Oda's, but why would he foreshadow and set up these plot lines if he just plans to leave them as loose ends. That'd be inconsistent with how he writes his manga in general.
Since the “One Piece is ending in 5 years” headlines are making the rounds around here, I thought it’d be good to start this thread.
I’m obviously at worst skeptical of such claim and at best 100% certain of its inevitable inaccuracy. Oda had given numerical estimates many times previously, and is almost always off the mark.
I’m sure he HOPES to end One Piece in 5 years due to the pressure of keeping up with such a gigantic franchise, but looking at how dense the upcoming stories would need to be to conclude every unresolved plot line, it’s just not possible to do so within 200 chapters.
By analyzing how Oda chooses to write his story and which elements he chooses to focus on in his narrative (I won’t breakdown that here because it’d be too long), his perfectionist self will not allow him to cut corners on resolving the upcoming plot lines.
If he truly believes he will end the series in 5 years, he will swiftly realize how unrealistic that is once he actually starts drawing week to week in the upcoming arcs. That is of course unless he suddenly decides that he doesn’t care about his story anymore and starts cutting corners, which I sincerely doubt will happen.
Anyway, I thought I’d make a list of the unresolved mysteries/plot threads/character goals to further show how unrealistic it’d be to cover all of it in 200 chapters. My best estimate would be around 350 more chapters, which corresponds to 8-9 more years.
Also keep in mind that Oda will still introduce new mysteries and characters as we go to new islands after Wano
Let me know what to add to the list because I’m certain I missed some unresolved plot lines
I’m obviously at worst skeptical of such claim and at best 100% certain of its inevitable inaccuracy. Oda had given numerical estimates many times previously, and is almost always off the mark.
I’m sure he HOPES to end One Piece in 5 years due to the pressure of keeping up with such a gigantic franchise, but looking at how dense the upcoming stories would need to be to conclude every unresolved plot line, it’s just not possible to do so within 200 chapters.
By analyzing how Oda chooses to write his story and which elements he chooses to focus on in his narrative (I won’t breakdown that here because it’d be too long), his perfectionist self will not allow him to cut corners on resolving the upcoming plot lines.
If he truly believes he will end the series in 5 years, he will swiftly realize how unrealistic that is once he actually starts drawing week to week in the upcoming arcs. That is of course unless he suddenly decides that he doesn’t care about his story anymore and starts cutting corners, which I sincerely doubt will happen.
Anyway, I thought I’d make a list of the unresolved mysteries/plot threads/character goals to further show how unrealistic it’d be to cover all of it in 200 chapters. My best estimate would be around 350 more chapters, which corresponds to 8-9 more years.
- Imu’s true identity and goals.
- The giant strawhat / the hidden treasure in Marejois and its connection to the Law’s devil fruit.
- Vegapunk’s indentity/history and his new SSG creation.
- The fate of the former warlords, especially Weevil, Hancock and Mihawk.
- Kuma’s history with Bonney.
- Aokiji’s true goal and his alliance with Blackbeard.
- The Rocks pirates’ history and the God Valley Incident.
- Shanks’ conversation with the Gorosei and his overall character arc.
- Void century story.
- The three eyed clan and their ability to read poneglyphs.
- Voice of all things explanation (Luffy, Momo, Roger, etc…)
- Joy Boy identity and the meaning of the Will of D.
- The fate of the 3 ancient weapons.
- Luffy destroying Fishman Island and the fate of the Noah.
- Vegapunk explaining devil fruit origins and how Blackbeard is able to use two devil fruits.
- What happened to Sabo, Vivi and King Cobra?
- Dragon’s war with the celestial Dragons.
- Greenbull’s identity.
- Coby’s journey towards becoming an admiral and the goal of Sword.
- Kaido’s individual backstory and the reason he’s suicidal.
- Denjiro’s identity. Lady Toki's story.
- The incident the Strawhat grand fleet will cause.
- Prince Loki’s story and the whole Elbaph arc.
- Enel’s return and the connection of the moon race to the void century.
- King’s race and the three races Big Mom is missing from her island.
- Katakuri’s fate and if he’ll meet Luffy again.
- Last road ponelyph’s location and finding Laugh Tale.
- Identity of Thriller Barks monsters.
- Luffy finding the One Piece and fighting Blackbeard.
- Zoro beating Mihawk and becoming the WGS.
- Nami finishing the map of the world.
- Usopp becoming a brave warrior of the sea.
- Sanji finding the All Blue and re-uniting with Pudding.
- Chopper creating the ultimate cure.
- Robin discovering the true history.
- Franky guiding the Sunny go to the finish line.
- Brook meeting Laboon.
- Jinbei and the Vinsmoke’s fate.
- Law, Kidd, Uroge, Hawkins, Drake, etc… stories and fates.
Also keep in mind that Oda will still introduce new mysteries and characters as we go to new islands after Wano
Let me know what to add to the list because I’m certain I missed some unresolved plot lines
Oda would have to drastically change the way he writes in order for OP to end in 5 Years lol Like each of those Plot points and the flashbacks attached to the bigger ones alone are going to take well over 5 years to fully flesh out. The Arc setups and payoffs system that he uses would have to essentially be scrapped completely.
Well in 2010 he clearly lied lmao whether purposely or not and he still fell prey to his need to get as much out of an Arc as possible in DR and WCI. Soooo with Wano, Elbaf, Vega Punk and SSG, Shanks vs BB, BB showdown, Raftel, Ancient Weapons, WG fight, and Crew-mates story arcs being fulfilled and everything that was mentioned in this topics opening; You think he makes good on this 5 years? Or is it more likely he goes back to what he's already done and extend it (Well) beyond that?
I think the max he will go is 7 years. That is if he goes back to extend it. He will probably extend it by 1 year.
However, I truly believe he will end One Piece in 6 years time.
The way he is talking, and the quality dip as soon as post timeskip started, as well as Roger's bounty beung revealed means he is getting tired of One Piece.
However, I truly believe he will end One Piece in 6 years time.
The way he is talking, and the quality dip as soon as post timeskip started, as well as Roger's bounty beung revealed means he is getting tired of One Piece.
I still don't believe it. I know Oda wants to end it, but I don't think he's the type to give his story a rushed finale like that. I mean one whole arc can take two to three years easily and we got at least three major arcs to go (elbaf, final war, raftel). Something's got to give and I hope it's not the quality of the story.
You don't think so? Take an arc like the Davy Jones fight arc, or the fishman island arc. The only thing of significance to the main story in those arcs are contained in like 3 chapters per arc. Dressrosa hard like 30 chapters that could have been trimmed off. The push push chapters. The Bellamy vs Luffy nonsense. The running around etc
I just don’t see how it could realistically end in 5 years.
Oda has done around 38-40 chapters per year for quite a while now and the number is steadily getting lower. So 5 years actually equals around 190 chapters.
We’re now at the beginning of act 3 in the Wano arc, the flashback has just started and there is a TON of content left in Wano.
Act 3, act 4 and act 5 will together take at least 90 chapters, given just how much fighting and story is still on the table and how long the first two acts took.
That means there would only be 100 chapters left after Wano.
Zero chance.
No way on earth the rest of the story (possibly Elbaf, finding the fourth road ponegliff, final fight against Blackbeard & Co., finding Raftel and the One Piece, final war against Imu and the Celestial Dragons, conclusion of the whole story) will be done in a mere 100 chapters That’s how long Dressrosa took for crying out loud.
Oda has done around 38-40 chapters per year for quite a while now and the number is steadily getting lower. So 5 years actually equals around 190 chapters.
We’re now at the beginning of act 3 in the Wano arc, the flashback has just started and there is a TON of content left in Wano.
Act 3, act 4 and act 5 will together take at least 90 chapters, given just how much fighting and story is still on the table and how long the first two acts took.
That means there would only be 100 chapters left after Wano.
Zero chance.
No way on earth the rest of the story (possibly Elbaf, finding the fourth road ponegliff, final fight against Blackbeard & Co., finding Raftel and the One Piece, final war against Imu and the Celestial Dragons, conclusion of the whole story) will be done in a mere 100 chapters That’s how long Dressrosa took for crying out loud.