Powers & Abilities Logia Can Regenerate Their Bodies, But Not Damage

#81
So yeah, if say Whitebeard cut Akainu in half with his glaive or whatever he wields, and it's a haki attack, Akainu can reform from it, but he would be hurt still from the attack and probably be close to defeat tbh, but he'd be full in form and would be able to be back to new after some proper rest and stuff.
This paragraph makes no sense. You know that right

What do you think "Damage" means? Are you talking about video games or something?

How can one get damaged yet their physical form regenerates itself fully? Only in video games. Video games are where you beat up a character and reduce their HP but there's no visible change in the body you are beating up.

You think one piece is working on video game logic? Because that's what you described. Akainu gets cut in half but all his organs are formed back together to full working order YET HE TOOK DAMAGE?? TF? IF he's physically fine, then what the hell do you mean by "Damage"?
 
#82
This paragraph makes no sense. You know that right

What do you think "Damage" means? Are you talking about video games or something?

How can one get damaged yet their physical form regenerates itself fully? Only in video games. Video games are where you beat up a character and reduce their HP but there's no visible change in the body you are beating up.

You think one piece is working on video game logic? Because that's what you described. Akainu gets cut in half but all his organs are formed back together to full working order YET HE TOOK DAMAGE?? TF? IF he's physically fine, then what the hell do you mean by "Damage"?
Damage in this fictional universe full of intangible supernovas inspired by titans of greek mythology, who battle phoenix and diamond humanoids, in this specific context I'm talking about, is HP in rpg terms.

There is a threshold where they can't regenerate when the damage builds up too much, and maybe it is stamina draining to regenerate your body back when it happens from a haki attack, but the point is that he feel feels the pain, he is still hurt by it, but his physical shape was regained.

Battle shounen with magical devil fruits and stuff running on video game logic? How is that that much of a reach? Also this is something SPECIFICALLY for logia, in that they can regenerate after, it's KINDOFTHEIRTHING

The point is that he still feels the pain of it, but he didn't get killed by two unnamed attacks by marco and vista.
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This paragraph makes no sense. You know that right

What do you think "Damage" means? Are you talking about video games or something?

How can one get damaged yet their physical form regenerates itself fully? Only in video games. Video games are where you beat up a character and reduce their HP but there's no visible change in the body you are beating up.

You think one piece is working on video game logic? Because that's what you described. Akainu gets cut in half but all his organs are formed back together to full working order YET HE TOOK DAMAGE?? TF? IF he's physically fine, then what the hell do you mean by "Damage"?
You might want to remove your signature, it's kind of cringe at this point since the only supernova he "one shot" is someone who one shot him back in a tie.
 
#83
Damage in this fictional universe full of intangible supernovas inspired by titans of greek mythology, who battle phoenix and diamond humanoids, in this specific context I'm talking about, is HP in rpg terms.

There is a threshold where they can't regenerate when the damage builds up too much, and maybe it is stamina draining to regenerate your body back when it happens from a haki attack, but the point is that he feel feels the pain, he is still hurt by it, but his physical shape was regained.

Battle shounen with magical devil fruits and stuff running on video game logic? How is that that much of a reach? Also this is something SPECIFICALLY for logia, in that they can regenerate after, it's KINDOFTHEIRTHING
Notice you are doing it again.

You are trying to add some pseudo scientific explanation about stamina and whatever while also saying this is video game hp logic.

You know these are mutually exclusive. There's no intersection here. Either it's HP or its not.

You are picking and choosing which parts of the HP system work for you and which of part if your pseudo science works for you. And not acknowledgin the are mutually exclusive AND they have their own faults you don't address.

For example authorial intent clearly shows HP isnt correct. The mere fact that Oda depicts visible damage directly on Logias means his intent is that this isn't HP based. Luffy folded Ceasers face into his fist and that face remained folded for multiple chapters so that the author can convey gat yes, Caeser has been beaten up severely. The fact that Oda displays damage physically and not some vague threshold in space that just gets overcome means oda wants to show that Caeser takes damage when he's actually physically shown beaten up. And you know, Akainu was completely fine.


And of course your entire pseudo science of stamina regeneration falls apart when you consider ZORO CUT MONET AND SHE NEVER HEALED BACK. One tiny cut on her face using haki. And you cannot say she didn't have the stamina or whatever. She even turned FULL SNOW and remade herself BUT SHE WAS STILL CUT. So... no.

It's fine to try and and piece together the mechanics of combat in this story, I've done it too trying to explain how durability varies in the story. The issue for you here is, that you have an agenda. You came into the analysis with an agenda to prove and that's why you keep running into blatant logical fallacies. If you came in trying to understand this from a neutral pov, maybe you could've gone somewhere. Instead now the rest of this argument gonna be me disproving your reasoning
 
#84
Notice you are doing it again.

You are trying to add some pseudo scientific explanation about stamina and whatever while also saying this is video game hp logic.

You know these are mutually exclusive. There's no intersection here. Either it's HP or its not.

You are picking and choosing which parts of the HP system work for you and which of part if your pseudo science works for you. And not acknowledgin the are mutually exclusive AND they have their own faults you don't address.

For example authorial intent clearly shows HP isnt correct. The mere fact that Oda depicts visible damage directly on Logias means his intent is that this isn't HP based. Luffy folded Ceasers face into his fist and that face remained folded for multiple chapters so that the author can convey gat yes, Caeser has been beaten up severely. The fact that Oda displays damage physically and not some vague threshold in space that just gets overcome means oda wants to show that Caeser takes damage when he's actually physically shown beaten up. And you know, Akainu was completely fine.


And of course your entire pseudo science of stamina regeneration falls apart when you consider ZORO CUT MONET AND SHE NEVER HEALED BACK. One tiny cut on her face using haki. And you cannot say she didn't have the stamina or whatever. She even turned FULL SNOW and remade herself BUT SHE WAS STILL CUT. So... no.

It's fine to try and and piece together the mechanics of combat in this story, I've done it too trying to explain how durability varies in the story. The issue for you here is, that you have an agenda. You came into the analysis with an agenda to prove and that's why you keep running into blatant logical fallacies. If you came in trying to understand this from a neutral pov, maybe you could've gone somewhere. Instead now the rest of this argument gonna be me disproving your reasoning
Well that's how it works, sorry, I didn't make one piece, complain to oda about it.

Logia can reform within limitations, probably to do with how severe and damaging the attack is, like sure aokiji was limbless from his fight, but that happened over a 10 day encounter.

Saying pseudo science as a buzzword is only really worthwhile under certain real life circumstances, otherwise it's just someone being unable to accept they're wrong, but in the confines of debating fictional anime powers and stuff, it's a special kind of dumb. Logia are pseudo science in the first place. Wait, so your argument is that if logia aren't hurt, my system is wrong? That's not true at all. We literally see akainu have shake lines, be pushed back, groan in pain, have gritted teeth, and complain about them being haki users, then regenerate. We literally have Jozu breaking aokiji to pieces with a buso attack, then him regenerate. There is more evidence pointing to me being right over you, the opposition literally makes up stuff to cope for their counter arguments, stuff like "well akainu's haki counters their haki" or whatever (When he was literally blindsided and thus wouldn't even have had haki activated at all)

Yes, haki allows you to at the moment of contact, hit the physical body that exists there, congrats on telling us how haki works.

The admirals are both a higher level of character, and also suffered being broken apart, not just some bruises. it's not like aokiji bothered to fix his lip wound or something.

"He was fine but he complained about them being haki users, groaned in pain, gritted his teeth, was pushed back, and had shake lines"

That's not fine.

Wait, what are you talking about?

"that's why you keep running into blatant logical fallacies"

Really, list off the fallacies, I don't think you can, cuz you're just using big words to sound right. I'm literally the only one who isn't fighting for a bias here, the people trying to pretend marco and vista didn't hurt him are admiral fanboys.
 
#85
Familiarize yourself with Whitebeard's naginata.


Aokiji is between the red and green line. When he bends over, his head barely makes its way to the pole, the blue circle. Look at the orange rectangle to see where his midsection lies (the part that breaks).



I'm reiterating, the force coming for Aokiji is a forward motion.


We can't make out where the green line would be, but we can tell Jozu's body and shoulder is well beyond the blue circle. Only his elbow and forearm makes it to Aokiji's spot. The only part Jozu struck Aokiji's head with could ONLY be his elbow.

Furthermore, the orange arrow points to where Aokiji's midsection was. How can Jozu hit Aokiji's midsection when he never struck the orange arrow?


It's a simple scene to understand. Jozu plowed Aokiji's body, causing his midsection to break off of the naginata, which was why his intact upper body is flew off.
 
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