General & Others Luffy and co don't even need a grand fleet anymore

[lee33]

They were able to take down two Yonkos with their current alliance, so that makes the grand fleet kinda pointless now.

Edit:
Guys, I am not talking about Straw hats alone. I literally said Co in my title. I am talking about the alliance with Strawhats, Law, Kidd, Scabbards etc. The grand fleet from Dressrosa isn't needed anymore.

 

[Albino 👑]

The strawhats didn't solo tho the alliance as a whole did
The fleet will probably be used against the blackbeard pirates imo

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

The alliance defeated 1 Yonko crew, in the BM side it was only Perospero and herself.
And many of the Kaido's crew switched sides because of Tama. So they defeated like only more than half of those 30.000 soldiers. And it was with the help with Kid and Law's crews + Minks as well.

So ofc Luffy still needs his grand fleet. Kurohige probably will have many allies aside from his 10 Captains and in this case there won't be a "Tama" in the MC's team, neither the other SN and Minks.

 

[Finalbeta]

The GF is weak anyway

By EoS maybe it will be decently powerful

 

[WesMidnight]

Strawhats are going to be fighting the buffed world government with SSG enhanced fodder
To deal with Kaidou's fodder (much weaker than SSG fodder) they had:
Kid's fodder
Law's fodder
the samurai
and Kaidou's own gifters thank to Tama
Marco

The grand fleet+ WB remnants+ Wano under Momo+ Alabasta under Vivi + Fishman Island under Shirahoshi+ WCI under Kat will +Kid + Law will likely all make appearances in the final war.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Are you high?

 

[MarineHQ]

Lmao. Let the crew pull up on the Navy alone and they get washed

 

[KonyaruIchi]

What kind of logic is that? The raid wasn't just the SHs, they didn't go alone against two crews, they still need support from other people

 

[Salah WG]

Who said Dressrosa Fleet was needed?

 

[IsaziSempi]

bad writing imo. the fleet should have arrived.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

Scabbards, Marco, Minks, most Strawhats, Kids cew, Law's crew, all did nothing in this raid so your point about "defeating only 1 Yonko crew" and "Tama defeating half of 30,000 soldiers" is moot. Dressrosa fleet isn't needed anymore.

Scabbards helped with Kaido's fodders.
Inu defeated Jack.
Neko - Peros.
2 "heavyweights"
Rest of the Minks helped against the fodders as well.
BM oneshoted P1 and let Ulti at 5% or less.
At one point it was 16000 from Kaido side against 9000 from the alliance side.

Much complaining about how shit writer is Oda but you didnt even get basic stuff of what happened from that shit that Oda wrote, xd.

 

[Finalbeta]

The fleet has become so redundant I admit

 

[Koro]

EoW ninja pirate mink samurai alliance are only aproximately worth 2 Emperors full crew.

Spoiler: EoW ninja pirate mink samurai alliance version

• 2 Emperors: Luffy, Law, Kid
• 6 YC: Zoro, Yamato, Killer, Sanji, Jimbei, Inu
• 12 Tobiroppo/strong veteran: Robin, Franky, Neko, Denjiro, Kappa, Kinemon, Hyogoro+4 Yakuza bosses, Usopp
• Headliners/regular minister: Nami, Kiku, Raizou, Chopper, 3 Musketeers + minks
• Gifters/weak crew: Samurai
• Pleasure/homie: Law crews, Kid crews

Right now, SH + SHGF are aproximately equal to 2 Emperors crews 'Only'. OR
"EoW ninja pirate mink samurai alliance" ~ "EoW SH + SHGF"

Spoiler: imagination structure

• 2 Emperors: Luffy, Zoro, Sanji
• 6 YC: Yamato, Jimbei, Barto-Sai-Cavendish & 3 vice captain, Bellamy
• 12 Tobiroppo/strong veteran: Franky, Robin, Brook, Ideo, Hajrudin, Sai top-100 crew
• Headliners/regular minister: Sai mid-300 crews, Nami, Usopp, Chopper
• Gifters/weak crew: Sai low-600 crew, Cavendish 74 crews, Barto 54 crews
• Pleasure/homie: Orlumbus 4600 crews, Leo crews, ideo crews, Hajrudin crews

SH themselves (11 crews right now) need to be as strong as 4 Emperors & 12 YC.
Thus, SH with SHGF Will make 4 Emperors FULL crews.

For who? For WG-CP, Navy Admirals, BB, other pirates who chase PK Luffy if all of them are on the same time going for SH. But still, they (SH) need another alliance, they are Revo, WB remnants, Redhair pirates, & 2 or 3 Ancient weapon to complete the prophecy.

SH need SHGF. SH are the main Contender, back-up by their subordinates, supported by the alliances, completed by Ancient weapons.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

Fodders don't mean crap. Luffy literally just gained thousands of new samari fodders. Stop including fodder, it only makes your argument look bad.



What about Denjiro, Kamwatsu, Kinemon, Neko? You forgot about them?


Peros is fodder compared to Neko. It was a cake walk for him. Again stop comparing fodder fights.



Lol why do you keep talking about fodder for. Who cares about fodder.


What is your point? I literally listed to you 20+ other characters that did nothing. 20+-2 = 18+ characters that still need to be addressed.



Lmfao more fodder talk huh?



Your whole post is about what the alliance is going to do against fodder lol. What kind of argument is that?

Fodder are so irrelevant that Oda dedicated many pages to them, but ok.