Break Week Luffy is too op and it is not fair

#22
BB will have 2 busted awakenings imo and Imu may be a god tier.
But 2 awakening is still not enough against 1 awakening and 3 advhqki based on stats
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That's the thing he's not as op as you might think.
He is too op but oda makes him weaker that he his meant to be
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Luffy fs- yc1
Luffy fs and advcoc- still yc1
 
#23
Imu may be a god tier.
OP is turning into Naruto and DBZ

Luffy vs Imu is going to be a God vs God fight. Maybe they fight in space, or on the moon, traveling through dimensions, or traveling through time. idk, but I feel like its going to be some nonsense like this.

Funny how a manga about martial arts, ninjas, and pirates can all converge into mangas about god battles.
 
#25
But 2 awakening is still not enough against 1 awakening and 3 advhqki based on stats
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He is too op but oda makes him weaker that he his meant to be
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Luffy fs- yc1
Luffy fs and advcoc- still yc1
BB will also have adv haki and gura awakening can be OP
 
#26
OP is turning into Naruto and DBZ

Luffy vs Imu is going to be a God vs God fight. Maybe they fight in space, or on the moon, traveling through dimensions, or traveling through time. idk, but I feel like its going to be some nonsense like this.

Funny how a manga about martial arts, ninjas, and pirates can all converge into mangas about god battles.
You don't decide what happens in OP and it certainly isn't happening as you think it so stop bringing headcannon into every discussion.
 
#27
We know luffy would eventually job to upcoming villain but if you look at pure stats he is meant to win the fight
Like who has all three and haki and awakening yet he is still weaker than roger or wb can anyone explain why.
He's still making mistakes all the time, and when he does he's weaker than Carrot. So yeah not to worry since it's classic Luffy.

...actually Oda should have a character development for Luffy long ago since he was oneshotted by Drunken TB in Kuri. Let alone after G5, he should have some major contemplation regarding his responsibility in ruling over such an absurdly powerful ability.
 
#28
OP is turning into Naruto and DBZ

Luffy vs Imu is going to be a God vs God fight. Maybe they fight in space, or on the moon, traveling through dimensions, or traveling through time. idk, but I feel like its going to be some nonsense like this.

Funny how a manga about martial arts, ninjas, and pirates can all converge into mangas about god battles.
Indeed
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You don't decide what happens in OP and it certainly isn't happening as you think it so stop bringing headcannon into every discussion.
:gokulaugh:that's exactly what will happen

You will be seeing people destroy islands
Imu will create dimensions
Planetary battles
 
#29
We know luffy would eventually job to upcoming villain but if you look at pure stats he is meant to win the fight
Like who has all three and haki and awakening yet he is still weaker than roger or wb can anyone explain why.
We don't know if Luffy can access G5 at will... G4 still seems to have time limit and after effects, not to mention it still consumes too much of his Haki...
 
#30
If your are good in everything that you are not excellent in anything.

In Luffy's case he sucks at 3 haki and awakening, he only has everything but sucks in all categories. But he excells at plot armor.
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Cope.

If Luffy sucks at all 3 haki what does that make Zoro who Luffy is levels above in all 3 haki

:risitameh:

CoO - Luffy can read the future feats only seen by Kaido and Katakuri. Zoro has the basic form.

:kobeha:

CoA - Luffy can use internal destruction form of this haki Zoro can't.

:kobeha:

CoC - Luffy can split the skies and use it for more than 5 minutes without passing out Zoro can't

:denzimote:

Awakening - His awakening powers helped him beat a Yonko yeah he sucks at using it keep telling yourself that

:leohah:
 
#31
Luffy wasn't born with monstrously strong body like Whitebeard, Kaido, Meme, Oden had. Don't get me wrong, Luffy's physical stats are insane compared to regular humans, but they are nowhere near to what monsters above were. So for him to have all three advanced forms of haki plus the awakening makes sense. But most importantly, Luffy's future opponents are stronger than Roger and Whitebeard, so he has to be that strong to defeat them.
 
#32
Let's compare Luffy to Charmander in Pokemon. Once he evolved into his final form, the pokemon still becomes stronger and gets new attacks but only lvl 100 is his strongest form.
 
#33
Bro Luffy barely beat Kaido after several K.Os savings underwater from Laws ships, savings from Zoro etc etc.

Help from Supernovas and Scabbards. He died, he is nowhere near Overpowered.

People who I believe a currently way stronger are Shanks, Mihawk, Akainu, Dragon, Kaido (in a 1v1), Blackbeard most likely, and also Big Meme. Those individuals are on another level. Fujitora, Ryukogyu and Kizaru, Kuzan also might be way stronger.

Luffy is not at his pinnacle, he think he is but no, he's still has a long way to go.
 
#35
They said same thing when he learned Haki & One-Shot Pacifista
They said same thing when he showed Gear 4
They said same thing when he showed Snakeman & learned Future Sight
They said same thing in Chapter 1000
And again in Chapter 1010
And now they still say the same thing after Gear 5

When will you people learn?
As long as we are not in Final Two Volumes yet, Luffy will always taste Defeat, most probably even get One-Shot
 
#36
First of all he still needs to figure out his go to-ability while in G5. Outside of the gigantification effect it really does not make him any stronger at all, that's why hybrid Kaido still dominated him, even more so than before I'd argue, he just found a way to neutralize some of his attacks with that shapeshifting ability.
So whatever his peak ability will be - perhaps GGn Gigant with partial G4 I dunno - he still needs to figure that out, cause right now G5 is by far not unbeatable.

Additionally we might underestimatw how many top tiers will have skills like FS and advCoC.
It's not like you necessarily need internal destro Coa in combination with CoC infusion to be op, it's just that you need it to beat primarily transformed Kaido and prolly BM aswell.

Ans you also cannot forget that Kaido made use of blunt force attacks. Normally they are so powerful that they might even one shot kill, but G5 got its way around it.
G5 won't take Shanks', Mihawk's or the admirals' attacks on a regular tho.

Right now Luffy has still massive potential hidden, but he definitely did not bring it fully out yet.
 
#37
They said same thing when he learned Haki & One-Shot Pacifista
They said same thing when he showed Gear 4
They said same thing when he showed Snakeman & learned Future Sight
They said same thing in Chapter 1000
And again in Chapter 1010
And now they still say the same thing after Gear 5

When will you people learn?
As long as we are not in Final Two Volumes yet, Luffy will always taste Defeat, most probably even get One-Shot
when did I say luffy won't taste defeat
 
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#38
:ihaha:

Cope.

If Luffy sucks at all 3 haki what does that make Zoro who Luffy is levels above in all 3 haki

:risitameh:

CoO - Luffy can read the future feats only seen by Kaido and Katakuri. Zoro has the basic form.

:kobeha:

CoA - Luffy can use internal destruction form of this haki Zoro can't.

:kobeha:

CoC - Luffy can split the skies and use it for more than 5 minutes without passing out Zoro can't

:denzimote:

Awakening - His awakening powers helped him beat a Yonko yeah he sucks at using it keep telling yourself that

:leohah:
Zoro doesn't have a DF. His basic CoO is close to perfection sense he can react and block against light speed attacks used by King's Flames Off. His CoA is close to perfection as he was able to block a combined attack from 2 Yonko that are haki monster and also tanked a fire bomb from King without a problem. His CoC is new so it is too early to say if it is bad or not but already made him scar Kaido something that only Oden did and Kaido pretty much fought at least all guys from 5 Shadows above Luffy.

Zoro without advanced techniques is doing much better than Luffy with advanced techniques.

And I will say that we never seen how Swords works with internal damage haki so maybe he already has it too.
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He sucks? You must be of low reading comprehension. Luffy smacked Kaido with haki he has never been hit before, when he awakened he was shooting CoC bursts from the top like what Big Meme did. Plot armour argument is what people with low intelligence and no achievements in life do.
Luffy take a beating from Kaido in his G5 form. Kaido stated that his haki was still superior and Luffy won anyway. Plot armor.
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This is all bullshit and you know it.
His CoA is seen to be rather advanced, he can actually use internal destruction unlike most users we've seen so far. If he hadn't he wouldn't have been able to harm Kaido.
His CoO was advanced enough to keep up with Kaido and he used it to beat Katakuri. They're not fodder in the slightest. The only reason his CoO was unable to work against Kaido properly is because he wasn't fast enough to react, which is a physical limitation, not his CoO.
His CoC is also advanced, we KNOW this because even Kaido said only a select few people can use coating and cause the heavens to split. Also are you just pulling out the part where he didn't knock out any beast pirates out of your ass? Because we've seen him do it even after being knocked out in early Wano, which took down some Beast Pirates (as well as when he awakened on Rooftop, neither of these situations were clashes). Unless you mean strong beast pirates, which can't happen because they'd have a strong enough Will to resist.
Awakening sucks? He beat Kaido with it despite having just unlocked it my dude, you aren't even being coherent anymore. Or in your own words, "yOu MaKe nO sEnSe".
His technique is advanced but his power with it sucks. It's like you suck at driving a regular popular car but you also know how to drive a Ferrari, but also suck at it.

Yes, I forgot about Luffy CoC being stronger after being knocked out by Kaido then when he was running and fighting until Rooftop.

His awakening sucks because he fought a little and lost it transformation. He used again after that but this is a clear indication that he sucks using his awakening. I don't see why you guys are so mad about this, his awakening bullshit made him defeat Kaido with a lot of plot armor together. His awakening is strong(actually the plot armor only) but he sucks using it. What's the deal?
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That's what I mean you muppet. You can't train Haoshoku directly, you have to become stronger in spirit (as in, train his other forms of Haki, because that's what it is, basically a person's spirit used in combat like Ki). I never said it's about will or motivation to become Pirate King, and we know for a fact that Kaido's haki was stronger because we've basically seen that during their fight, I never said the opposite. My only point was that he is the best at CoC and this is shown to us from the fact he can do coating with it, that's it.



Because it's fucking true? He isn't a newbie user though, he's an inexperienced user. Rayleigh told him two years was barely enough for basics, and then he's been continuously trying to improve all three of his forms over the course of the story, he hasn't had much time to develop his Haki like a lot of other experienced pirates, that's just a fact. Him beating characters with stronger Haki than him does not mean he isn't inexperienced, he's just talented at haki usage.
There is not such bullshit as getting stronger in spirit. You get your body stronger, not spirit.

Luffy is not the best at CoC. Zoro is far better than him. Luffy unlocked CoC since pre-timeskip and after timeskip he already knows how to control it. Only know he is learning coating. That is a slow learning. Zoro as far we know only unlocked CoC now at Wano and already learned coating. That's a real genius in the area.

Inexperienced user = newbie. Call him late novice if you prefer that way. He took more time learning basics than advanced. This is plot armor.

Him beating character with stronger haki by overcoming their haki means it is plot armor. Is not like his haki grew stronger, he just won because he had to won.
 
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#39
He sucks? You must be of low reading comprehension. Luffy smacked Kaido with haki he has never been hit before, when he awakened he was shooting CoC bursts from the top like what Big Meme did. Plot armour argument is what people with low intelligence and no achievements in life do.
Yes. You are right, he has never been hit before. That is not head canon at all.
 
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#40
It's a shounen manga.
MC is bound to be overpowered with ridiclous growth which makes no sense with a chosen one power up.

we all know katakuri doflamingo crocodile have more battle exp than luffy. yet they are stuck with coc and crocodile with no haki at all.

Only mc grows if he looses but when opponent looses they turn to garbage.
one piece was peak for me till marineford. that's it afterwards things turned out like pain arc in naruto. Unneccesary power up with chosen one stereotype.
 
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