Current Events Luffy vs Kaido is a major asspull

[Dark Admiral]

As long as Kaido is smiling and chilling, I'm fine with it. (sort of)
However, if Kaido shows his awakened Zoan or some other PU and Luffy matches it with his own awakening..

 

[vikas]

Oda is an ass man.

 

[BleakAsh]

I always come back to this quote because I think it’s very indicative of Oda’s current writing style...it’s not enough for Luffy to realistically beat Kaido with punches, but apparently, the problem is solved by having Luffy beat Kaido with CoC-infused punches. To the layman (or an author that’s given up all pretense of caring whether or not he sticks the landing), this might be a discernible difference, but to everyone else, it’s effectively the same thing he claimed he was trying to avoid. Are CoC-heavy attacks a natural progression for Haki in the story? Sure. Is it fun to watch? Mildly so far, jury’s still out. Is it good writing? Based on the expectations the author himself set, absolutely not.

so this just proves the point that luffy has the brute strength like demonstrated in their first encounter... but didn't have a wayy to by pass the scales that absorb all of his attacks

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As long as Kaido is smiling and chilling, I'm fine with it. (sort of)
However, if Kaido shows his awakened Zoan or some other PU and Luffy matches it with his own awakening..

Wouldn't that be fire

 

[Dark Admiral]

Wouldn't that be fire

Nope, he already had Power Ups like AdvCoA & AdvCoC, having DF awakening too will make the following arcs boring...

 

[zzShinichi]

Instead of thinking, "holy shit Luffy is 1v1-ing Kaidou out of his ass, what an asspull", we should think otherwise "holy shit, the Scabbards and the 5 Supernovas really did some work on Kaidou, they weakened Kaidou enough for Luffy to 1v1 him, especially that Ashura of Zoro"
See, everyone wins in this situation. The world finally finds peace.

 

[BleakAsh]

Nope, he already had Power Ups like AdvCoA & AdvCoC, having DF awakening too will make the following arcs boring...

i mean it would be cliche but fire.....

but i want him to awaken when he faces BB who's DF seems awaken or like awakening .. or someone with a darn good awakening in Elbaf..

 

[Ravagerblade]

The definition of an ass pull is, “An Ass Pull used to resolve an unwinnable situation for the protagonists” so yes by definition it’s an ass pull. Base Luffy now is 1 v 1 Hybrid Kaido. Think about that. Base Luffy and Hybrid Kaido. Hybrid being the strongest form is now at the same level as base Luffy.

Your missing the "out of nowhere with no hint or foreshadowing" come on man! Stop the bias.

 

[humanbeing]

well if you don't like something you can quit it :D

 

[BleakAsh]

Kaido has accumulated damage from a bunch of strong people and still just fighting for the sport of it. Once he gets serious, Luffy is gonna being facing hell again. I do agree tho, the urgency is a bit lacking. Would be nice to see Luffy fight tooth and nail with Kaido like he did Lucci...except only even more struggle.

Exactly

 

[BidaPowersTV]

I understand that he's using Conqueror's Haki but how is he facing Kaido 1v1 so easily? This is what I hate most about shonen. Asspulls. And yes I know he's the main character but it's still annoying. I feel like Kaido doesn't feel as intimidating anymore if Luffy can just do this in his base form. If he was in his Snakeman form wrapped in Conqueror's Haki that's one thing, but base form and going toe to toe with a Yonko? I don't like that at all. This would essentially mean he's already PK level right? If he's doing this in base, then Boundman or Snakeman wrapped in COC would hypothetically be unbeatable.

Thoughts?

Because luffy trianed ok? During when luffy fought kaido on wano he observe how tough kaido is, his skin, his speed etc etc. luffy trained after they conquered wano and he made he was more than ready to fight kaido.

 

[Finalbeta]

At this stage I kinda doubt Kaido will show an awakening power unless probably Luffy himself does or he does when Zoro returns or overpowers Luffy with it and Zoro returns.

 

[BleakAsh]

Because luffy trianed ok? During when luffy fought kaido on wano he observe how tough kaido is, his skin, his speed etc etc. luffy trained after they conquered wano and he made he was more than ready to fight kaido.

People keep overlooking this point, expected from a bias disorganized mentality .. i mean if you low ball him soo much in debates it oughta be a surprise..

 

[Fn Lucci]

Oda is an ass man.

I don't feel like Japan will ever be up on that. Weird because hip hop and reggae have had pretty good followings for years there

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

İts not.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

As long as Kaido is smiling and chilling, I'm fine with it. (sort of)
However, if Kaido shows his awakened Zoan or some other PU and Luffy matches it with his own awakening..

At this rate Luffy is gonna match it with Gear 4. He doesn’t even need awakening.

 

[Quert001]

Just wait till he master his df awakening and learn to use gear 5 in less than 10 minutes. Its bound to happen.

EDIT:At this point Oda doesnt even care, just keep giving him powerup till it seems believable to everyone that he can beat kaido.

 

[Hades]

Just wait till he master his df awakening and learn to use gear 5 in less than 10 minutes. Its bound to happen.

EDIT:At this point Oda doesnt even care, just keep giving him powerup till it seems believable to everyone that he can beat kaido.

"learn to use g5 in less than 10 minutes"...you are speaking as if G5 existed and some others are using G5 and Luffy learn it by copying it....

 

[Quert001]

"learn to use g5 in less than 10 minutes"...you are speaking as if G5 existed and some others are using G5 and Luffy learn it by copying it....

I'm talking about luffy here, not others. Its obvious at some point in this fight, he will be saying gear 5th and be asspulling some new techniques.

 

[BleakAsh]

I'm talking about luffy here, not others. Its obvious at some point in this fight, he will be saying gear 5th and be asspulling some new techniques.

gear 4 wasn't an asspull so weren't the haki upgrades

 

[uyuu]

Instead of thinking, "holy shit Luffy is 1v1-ing Kaidou out of his ass, what an asspull", we should think otherwise "holy shit, the Scabbards and the 5 Supernovas really did some work on Kaidou, they weakened Kaidou enough for Luffy to 1v1 him, especially that Ashura of Zoro"
See, everyone wins in this situation. The world finally finds peace.

Yet maybe judging from Kaidou's performance, he'a not significantly weakened if him getting hybrid after all those battles was defined by him as starting to be fun.

And even when Luffy was almost bitten/chomped and incapacitated by Roger-style CoA Ragnarok to the nuts, maybe some people just deliberately overlooked that Luffy was really struggling and took heavy damage?