Powers & Abilities Luffy was actually tired and nerfed against Kaido.
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where is this healed up narrative coming from?????
big mom was the doctor or did I miss a panel .
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I repeat the strongest on rt5 during the rooftop said his attacks were too shallow, of course those other one wouldn't faze kaido. Except zoro scar which was minimal kaido walked it off."
law's gamma knife , injection shot are internal attacks
so is killer scyther sonic
luffy being stronger than them doesn't have to mean he was more efficient at damaging kaido at that point .
"Of course luffy wasn't stronger then him, thats why od did that, then he turned into joyboy and it was a 1v1 which luffy came out superior."
yes joyboy eventually did with a good amount of help at the start . thats all that needs to be recognized here
sorry am not just going to brush off yamato, the scabbards and the contributions of 4 other supernovas as null when it came down to kaido going down.
big mom was the doctor or did I miss a panel .
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I repeat the strongest on rt5 during the rooftop said his attacks were too shallow, of course those other one wouldn't faze kaido. Except zoro scar which was minimal kaido walked it off."
law's gamma knife , injection shot are internal attacks
so is killer scyther sonic
luffy being stronger than them doesn't have to mean he was more efficient at damaging kaido at that point .
"Of course luffy wasn't stronger then him, thats why od did that, then he turned into joyboy and it was a 1v1 which luffy came out superior."
yes joyboy eventually did with a good amount of help at the start . thats all that needs to be recognized here
sorry am not just going to brush off yamato, the scabbards and the contributions of 4 other supernovas as null when it came down to kaido going down.
Yamato, fodder, number, page 1
Also, Kaido literally had help from another yonko
Oda doesn't think like that.
Did you see how little shit Kaido gave about gamma knife in the manga? If it actually did do shit it is supposed to do, Kaido would severely be damaged and would comment on it. But he was more warried about punches.
For Oda both doffy and luffy were equally nerfed. For him bellamy's punches = Law's gamma knife
possibly valid? Kaido literally had PTS because that's how he only beat Oden.
Also, Kaido literally had help from another yonko
Oda doesn't think like that.
Did you see how little shit Kaido gave about gamma knife in the manga? If it actually did do shit it is supposed to do, Kaido would severely be damaged and would comment on it. But he was more warried about punches.
For Oda both doffy and luffy were equally nerfed. For him bellamy's punches = Law's gamma knife
possibly valid? Kaido literally had PTS because that's how he only beat Oden.
possibly cause there obv no magical calculator to show how much damage luffy took from it and how much damage kaido accumulated from other fighters. I cant give you more than that .
"For Oda both doffy and luffy were equally nerfed. For him bellamy's punches = Law's gamma knife"
Not what was said at all .
they were both heavily banged up was all was implied. made very clear in a head on 1v1 fight without law, luffy wasnt going to win .
"Also, Kaido literally had help from another yonko "
that is true unfortunately bar hakai , she barely damaged anyone on screen ........
he most certainly didnt have her help against yamato or the scabbards however.
"For Oda both doffy and luffy were equally nerfed. For him bellamy's punches = Law's gamma knife"
Not what was said at all .
they were both heavily banged up was all was implied. made very clear in a head on 1v1 fight without law, luffy wasnt going to win .
"Also, Kaido literally had help from another yonko "
that is true unfortunately bar hakai , she barely damaged anyone on screen ........
he most certainly didnt have her help against yamato or the scabbards however.
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with this logic
sanji was nerfed vs queen
zoro was nerfed vs mr1
sanji was nerfed vs jabra
luffy was nerfed vs katakuri
zoro when he used ashura against kaido was nerfed ...
you see how this works
you could practically reduce every fight where a character powers up mid fight after being outclassed as a fight wherein they were nerfed because at the point they powered up , they would have been pushed far above their limit .
it becomes completely ridiculous
You dont consider luffy after a powerup a different individual , Kaido had to deal with far more individuals than luffy so calling his condition before he started fighting luffy seriously a nerf would be appropriate because he was hurt significantly by circumstances out of luffy's control (other fighters), luffy not being in peak condition against kaido was 99.9% due to kaido whooping his ass . ( at this point in the rooftop kaido had knocked him out twice )
I will say it again
its not a nerf when someone's hurt because your opponent beat the hell out of you before a powerup. zoro Mr1 is a very good example . it will be a nerf if perhaps an injury from a previous fight never healed and that puts zoro out of peak condition, its not a nerf if zoro is barely able to stand because mr1 slaughtered him.
clearly a device to have luffy to get another powerup . it was not done just to give kaido a" last W" when he had done that 2 times already .
each time he got knocked out , luffy came back significantly better
doesnt look like luffy had enough to win here
sanji was nerfed vs queen
zoro was nerfed vs mr1
sanji was nerfed vs jabra
luffy was nerfed vs katakuri
zoro when he used ashura against kaido was nerfed ...
you see how this works
you could practically reduce every fight where a character powers up mid fight after being outclassed as a fight wherein they were nerfed because at the point they powered up , they would have been pushed far above their limit .
it becomes completely ridiculous
You dont consider luffy after a powerup a different individual , Kaido had to deal with far more individuals than luffy so calling his condition before he started fighting luffy seriously a nerf would be appropriate because he was hurt significantly by circumstances out of luffy's control (other fighters), luffy not being in peak condition against kaido was 99.9% due to kaido whooping his ass . ( at this point in the rooftop kaido had knocked him out twice )
I will say it again
its not a nerf when someone's hurt because your opponent beat the hell out of you before a powerup. zoro Mr1 is a very good example . it will be a nerf if perhaps an injury from a previous fight never healed and that puts zoro out of peak condition, its not a nerf if zoro is barely able to stand because mr1 slaughtered him.
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clearly a device to have luffy to get another powerup . it was not done just to give kaido a" last W" when he had done that 2 times already .
each time he got knocked out , luffy came back significantly better
doesnt look like luffy had enough to win here
If JoyBoy was unlocked by Kaido clubbing him, then him losing normally would lead to the exact same thing. But Oda interferred.
What is story related? Luffy would lose either way, and JoyBoy would be activated either way. What is the difference?
Yet, Oda decided explicitly to interfere and gyp Luffy.
Oda could have easily ended the fight in G4 if he wanted to. Kaido could barely stand at that point.
But with G4 Kaido wouldn't die. He'd come back in a few days/hours. Joyboy/G5 was Oda ensuring Kaido wasn't just defeated, but permanently erased.
Yet, Oda decided explicitly to interfere and gyp Luffy.
Oda could have easily ended the fight in G4 if he wanted to. Kaido could barely stand at that point.
But with G4 Kaido wouldn't die. He'd come back in a few days/hours. Joyboy/G5 was Oda ensuring Kaido wasn't just defeated, but permanently erased.
What is story related? Luffy would lose either way, and JoyBoy would be activated either way. What is the difference?
Yet, Oda decided explicitly to interfere and gyp Luffy.
Oda could have easily ended the fight in G4 if he wanted to. Kaido could barely stand at that point.
But with G4 Kaido wouldn't die. He'd come back in a few days/hours. Joyboy/G5 was Oda ensuring Kaido wasn't just defeated, but permanently erased.
Yet, Oda decided explicitly to interfere and gyp Luffy.
Oda could have easily ended the fight in G4 if he wanted to. Kaido could barely stand at that point.
But with G4 Kaido wouldn't die. He'd come back in a few days/hours. Joyboy/G5 was Oda ensuring Kaido wasn't just defeated, but permanently erased.
It's Story related cuz it's obvious that Oda is hinting at a Legendary Fight which happened in Ancient Times and got ruined
Tbh I hate that instead of Readers trying to figure out why History is repeating itself and analyzing the Story, they instead use every Scene to debate about irrelevant Power Levels
As I said, I care about Story, not everything is added for Power Leveling Purposes
What is story related? Luffy would lose either way, and JoyBoy would be activated either way. What is the difference?
Yet, Oda decided explicitly to interfere and gyp Luffy.
Oda could have easily ended the fight in G4 if he wanted to. Kaido could barely stand at that point.
But with G4 Kaido wouldn't die. He'd come back in a few days/hours. Joyboy/G5 was Oda ensuring Kaido wasn't just defeated, but permanently erased.
Yet, Oda decided explicitly to interfere and gyp Luffy.
Oda could have easily ended the fight in G4 if he wanted to. Kaido could barely stand at that point.
But with G4 Kaido wouldn't die. He'd come back in a few days/hours. Joyboy/G5 was Oda ensuring Kaido wasn't just defeated, but permanently erased.
To this day @sanjikun still thinks over kong gun wasnt kkg with acoc and thinks g4 can beat kaido
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And why he was nerfed? Because of Kaido himself!! Kaido was nerfed because of taking so many attacks by everyone else while Luffy was KO by Kaido on his own twice.
If we negate both scenarios and make it to a 1vs1, Luffy clearly would lose.
Luffy took Damage by Kaido alone.
Kaido took Damage by Luffy and 16 different characters.
That is the difference..
If we negate both scenarios and make it to a 1vs1, Luffy clearly would lose.
Luffy took Damage by Kaido alone.
Kaido took Damage by Luffy and 16 different characters.
That is the difference..
