Future Events Luffy will destroy Onigashima

#1
So this is just a quick speculation made under the assumption ZKK is true. I am very aware that there is a big chance ZKK won't happen, and I've speculated on this many times, but for the purposes of this thread, I'd like to discuss how I think ZKK will happen.

In line with how Oda has written every arc since the history of the series, Luffy has to be the main hero. He is the main character, he is the chosen one, and this is a simple unwavering fact of one piece. Luffy will defeat kaido, he will get most of the fame and most of the credit. This has been backed up by multiple characters, Yamato, Zoro, sanji, and basically all of the straw hats. They are all hedging their bets that Luffy will return to beat kaido.

So if Zoro were to kill kaido, it would have to occur in such a way in which
  1. Luffy still defeats kaido
  2. Luffy is still the hero of the arc
Zoro would need to kill kaido after Luffy has already defeated him AND it would have to happen in a way in which Zoro doesn't overshadow his captain. Essentially, what will happen is a repeat if what happened to Oden. Luffy will defeat kaido but be nerfed shortly after, kaido will recover and try to take advantage of this by landing a cheap shot. However, unlike in the case of Oden, Zoro will intervene to save Luffy.

What will the nerf be? imo, after beating kaido, Luffy will exhaust himself destroying onigashima in order to save the people of wano. With Law's powers, he could easily levitate a small chunk of the island that everyone could crowd into, giving Luffy the ability to destroy the rest. Perhaps Kid might even have a change of heart and use his abilities to fly the allies off the island. In any case, the allies will be taken off the island through the use of various powers and similar to fishman island, Luffy will destroy onigashima before it crushes the flower capital.

After wano, Luffy will be a full blown emperor and all emperors have shown these world destroying feats. Whitebeard with his earthquakes and tsunamis, Kaido levitating onigashima, and Big Mom manipulating the sky in whole cake island. Luffy too will get a feat to match this and imo that will be destroying onigashima. With ACoA, ACoC, and the gomu gomu no mi, I can easily see Luffy pulling off this feat by wano's end. Especially since it was hinted by kaido that Luffy had a new technique up his sleeve.

Luffy will severely hurt himself destroying the island, and kaido will regain just enough stamina to make one final attempt at killing Luffy before Zoro cuts off his head.
 
#5
Luffy is no different to Roger, Whitebeard, and Oden. He is mighty (or will soon be) but is still soft in his own way. Nerfing himself for the sake of Wano, by destroying Onigashima as you say, is one way to show his softness.
Afterwards, it's easy to envisage Zoro killing Kaido. The setting is there to recreate Ryuma's feat.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#6
I think you still underestimate Zoro and discard the option that he can overshadow Luffy.
He has done it twice in pre-TS and I assume he will do it twice in post-TS as well, Wano being one of those.
In Shells Town, Luffy didnt overshadow Zoro. It was his introduction arc and Wano is kinda that, in post-TS.

Nobody mentions Thriller Bark for Luffy, Zoro was the star of that arc which began the setup for Wano.
Even judging by development so far, people are hoping that Luffy overshadows Zoro in Wano and dont realize that it will never happen.
There will be future arcs where Luffy will be the shining star again but one more where Zoro is, I assume.

Regarding Onigashima, I am sure Momonosuke will hold it from falling down.
 
#9
So this is just a quick speculation made under the assumption ZKK is true. I am very aware that there is a big chance ZKK won't happen, and I've speculated on this many times, but for the purposes of this thread, I'd like to discuss how I think ZKK will happen.

In line with how Oda has written every arc since the history of the series, Luffy has to be the main hero. He is the main character, he is the chosen one, and this is a simple unwavering fact of one piece. Luffy will defeat kaido, he will get most of the fame and most of the credit. This has been backed up by multiple characters, Yamato, Zoro, sanji, and basically all of the straw hats. They are all hedging their bets that Luffy will return to beat kaido.

So if Zoro were to kill kaido, it would have to occur in such a way in which
  1. Luffy still defeats kaido
  2. Luffy is still the hero of the arc
Zoro would need to kill kaido after Luffy has already defeated him AND it would have to happen in a way in which Zoro doesn't overshadow his captain. Essentially, what will happen is a repeat if what happened to Oden. Luffy will defeat kaido but be nerfed shortly after, kaido will recover and try to take advantage of this by landing a cheap shot. However, unlike in the case of Oden, Zoro will intervene to save Luffy.

What will the nerf be? imo, after beating kaido, Luffy will exhaust himself destroying onigashima in order to save the people of wano. With Law's powers, he could easily levitate a small chunk of the island that everyone could crowd into, giving Luffy the ability to destroy the rest. Perhaps Kid might even have a change of heart and use his abilities to fly the allies off the island. In any case, the allies will be taken off the island through the use of various powers and similar to fishman island, Luffy will destroy onigashima before it crushes the flower capital.

After wano, Luffy will be a full blown emperor and all emperors have shown these world destroying feats. Whitebeard with his earthquakes and tsunamis, Kaido levitating onigashima, and Big Mom manipulating the sky in whole cake island. Luffy too will get a feat to match this and imo that will be destroying onigashima. With ACoA, ACoC, and the gomu gomu no mi, I can easily see Luffy pulling off this feat by wano's end. Especially since it was hinted by kaido that Luffy had a new technique up his sleeve.

Luffy will severely hurt himself destroying the island, and kaido will regain just enough stamina to make one final attempt at killing Luffy before Zoro cuts off his head.
How do you feel if Zoro cuts Kaidos head on top of cutting the entire Onigashima in half.

Seeing Island cut in two pieces everyone Who isn't K.Oed flees. Then Luffy with his strongest attack destroys Onigashima?
 
#10
It would be very cool!But Luffy needs to do this before the island reaches the top of the capital because the falling rubble would kill citizens too!Law and Kidd flying or levitating the alliance is something i want to see!
 
#11
So this is just a quick speculation made under the assumption ZKK is true. I am very aware that there is a big chance ZKK won't happen, and I've speculated on this many times, but for the purposes of this thread, I'd like to discuss how I think ZKK will happen.

In line with how Oda has written every arc since the history of the series, Luffy has to be the main hero. He is the main character, he is the chosen one, and this is a simple unwavering fact of one piece. Luffy will defeat kaido, he will get most of the fame and most of the credit. This has been backed up by multiple characters, Yamato, Zoro, sanji, and basically all of the straw hats. They are all hedging their bets that Luffy will return to beat kaido.

So if Zoro were to kill kaido, it would have to occur in such a way in which
  1. Luffy still defeats kaido
  2. Luffy is still the hero of the arc
Zoro would need to kill kaido after Luffy has already defeated him AND it would have to happen in a way in which Zoro doesn't overshadow his captain. Essentially, what will happen is a repeat if what happened to Oden. Luffy will defeat kaido but be nerfed shortly after, kaido will recover and try to take advantage of this by landing a cheap shot. However, unlike in the case of Oden, Zoro will intervene to save Luffy.

What will the nerf be? imo, after beating kaido, Luffy will exhaust himself destroying onigashima in order to save the people of wano. With Law's powers, he could easily levitate a small chunk of the island that everyone could crowd into, giving Luffy the ability to destroy the rest. Perhaps Kid might even have a change of heart and use his abilities to fly the allies off the island. In any case, the allies will be taken off the island through the use of various powers and similar to fishman island, Luffy will destroy onigashima before it crushes the flower capital.

After wano, Luffy will be a full blown emperor and all emperors have shown these world destroying feats. Whitebeard with his earthquakes and tsunamis, Kaido levitating onigashima, and Big Mom manipulating the sky in whole cake island. Luffy too will get a feat to match this and imo that will be destroying onigashima. With ACoA, ACoC, and the gomu gomu no mi, I can easily see Luffy pulling off this feat by wano's end. Especially since it was hinted by kaido that Luffy had a new technique up his sleeve.

Luffy will severely hurt himself destroying the island, and kaido will regain just enough stamina to make one final attempt at killing Luffy before Zoro cuts off his head.
This is more or less the same with what I predicted since Kaido pulling an Ultron will destroy the whole world (not just Wano), although I also predict Luffy will launch Zoro toward Kaido with a final KKG in order for ZKK to happen.

Nice theory, anyway. Finally something I can agree with. :cheers:
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Nah. Onigashima needs to be stopped by Momo to give him some big moment so he can came out of Oden's shadow and establish himself as a worthy shogun for Wano.
Momo stopping Onigashima is already the asspull of a lifetime as it is.

And this is about destroying it outright, not stopping it.
 
#12
Anything involving destroying Onigashima would be weird since the debris could cause a bigger destruction
I can see Momo for some dumb reason being able to pull Onigashima to the edge of the waterfall and drop it, increase the sealevel thus opening Wano's border
 
#14
So this is just a quick speculation made under the assumption ZKK is true. I am very aware that there is a big chance ZKK won't happen, and I've speculated on this many times, but for the purposes of this thread, I'd like to discuss how I think ZKK will happen.

In line with how Oda has written every arc since the history of the series, Luffy has to be the main hero. He is the main character, he is the chosen one, and this is a simple unwavering fact of one piece. Luffy will defeat kaido, he will get most of the fame and most of the credit. This has been backed up by multiple characters, Yamato, Zoro, sanji, and basically all of the straw hats. They are all hedging their bets that Luffy will return to beat kaido.

So if Zoro were to kill kaido, it would have to occur in such a way in which
  1. Luffy still defeats kaido
  2. Luffy is still the hero of the arc
Zoro would need to kill kaido after Luffy has already defeated him AND it would have to happen in a way in which Zoro doesn't overshadow his captain. Essentially, what will happen is a repeat if what happened to Oden. Luffy will defeat kaido but be nerfed shortly after, kaido will recover and try to take advantage of this by landing a cheap shot. However, unlike in the case of Oden, Zoro will intervene to save Luffy.

What will the nerf be? imo, after beating kaido, Luffy will exhaust himself destroying onigashima in order to save the people of wano. With Law's powers, he could easily levitate a small chunk of the island that everyone could crowd into, giving Luffy the ability to destroy the rest. Perhaps Kid might even have a change of heart and use his abilities to fly the allies off the island. In any case, the allies will be taken off the island through the use of various powers and similar to fishman island, Luffy will destroy onigashima before it crushes the flower capital.

After wano, Luffy will be a full blown emperor and all emperors have shown these world destroying feats. Whitebeard with his earthquakes and tsunamis, Kaido levitating onigashima, and Big Mom manipulating the sky in whole cake island. Luffy too will get a feat to match this and imo that will be destroying onigashima. With ACoA, ACoC, and the gomu gomu no mi, I can easily see Luffy pulling off this feat by wano's end. Especially since it was hinted by kaido that Luffy had a new technique up his sleeve.

Luffy will severely hurt himself destroying the island, and kaido will regain just enough stamina to make one final attempt at killing Luffy before Zoro cuts off his head.
:cheers:Luffy eviscerating Onigashima outta existence would be next level HYPE
 
#15
I feel like Luffy would already reach the brink of death just defeating Kaido for him to also pull something harder than destroying the Noah (which he technically couldn't accomplish in time).
 
#17
The debris would still destroy flower capital. It’s not like the Noah.

This would just be a complete remake of FMIs ending which would be pretty lame. I personally believe Momo is going to hold up onigashima and give the flower capital citizens time to evacuate as a callback to Odens hour of legends.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#19
Zoro would need to kill kaido after Luffy has already defeated him AND it would have to happen in a way in which Zoro doesn't overshadow his captain. Essentially, what will happen is a repeat if what happened to Oden. Luffy will defeat kaido but be nerfed shortly after, kaido will recover and try to take advantage of this by landing a cheap shot. However, unlike in the case of Oden, Zoro will intervene to save Luffy.

What will the nerf be? imo, after beating kaido, Luffy will exhaust himself destroying onigashima in order to save the people of wano.
That's a satisfying way to have Zoro kill Kaido

Always felt off that Zoro needed to save Luffy / sneak kill Kaido according to a lot of the speculations. Really makes it seem like Luffy didn't defeat Kaido in those instances.

But if he takes out Kaido and then somehow destroys or partially destroys, like the ship Noah in FMI, I can see how Zoro killing Kaido might fit in better. Luffy shows he would've utterly destroyed Kaido if not for circumstances and Zoro still gets a moment
 
#20
Why am i not impressed if Luffy destroys large-scale property anymore? I'd rather see Zoro, Law, Kidd, Sulong Minks, Scabbards and the others stall/hold/cut/deflect Onigashima together instead. Luffy should be focused on dominating Kaidou's ultimate attack, and finally defeating Kaidou so completely, he destroys Kaidou's regeneration ability as well.
 
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