Character Discussion Luffy will never become a Yonko, he will become a "Great Pirate" which is a SUPERIOR TITLE.

imacub

imacub

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#61
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Erkan12 said:
I said it was a pm, do you know what pm is? Lmao. What a denial of this zoro mihawk fan has.

Yeah, you are in denial, now I am sure, hitting from groins is a dirty move, that's something Kalifa does. And you can see Kalifa's picture in the photo. You don't use people who can cheat in that example, you use people fight fair and square, who doesn't cheat. Hitting from groins is cheating.

That's why Kaido isn't in it, because Kaido can cheat. Shanks doesn't, Zoro too doesn't cheat, he would get stomped by Whitebeard and Shanks, but he would never try to attack them from the groins, LOL. That has nothing to do with power levels, that's simply can be used when it comes to fight fair and square, yeah you can say mihawk is top 3 when it comes to fight fair and square, who doesn't cheat, no one argues that. The fact that Oda uses Shanks's name before Kaido proves that this has nothing to do with power levels.
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Well then how am i supposed to take your words when you cant even backup your claim rather than "it's a pm" lmao. So with this circumference, Official translation > your pm

Since when hitting one's ballsack in the heat of battle is considered cheating lmao. what kind of logic is this. Since when there is "you can't hit certain place" rule in a deadly battle. Also, WB did also cheat lmao, he cheap shoted Akainu from behind during the Paramount War, but that's a topic for another day

Also, Oda didnt necessarily need to brought up those names, he could refer to a random man fighting and the mesaage would still get conveyed. The fact Oda brought up those names means something

Lastly, your paragraph long of writing means nothing since you mistakenly interpret the SBS. I laugh my ass off when you say there is a rule not to hit a certain place
 
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Jo_Ndule

#62
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Red Admiral said:
well ... as a Shanks fan ... he is right here ... Oda never said "legends among men" in this SBS ... we checked this before

but surly Shanks and Mihawk are still legendary fighters of this era ... and ONLY legendary fighters

rest are DF freaks or actual freaks
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:choppawhat:
Kaido is a legendary pirate with his legends to never die or lose 1 v 1

Rocks are all legendary pirates
Captain John is legendary ,
even katakuri is legendary
but Kaido and BM aren't?

Legends of this era who are active :
Katakuri
Buggy
Mihawk
Shanks
BM
Kaido

Each one known for a different legend they had/did
 
Erkan12

Erkan12

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#63
#63
imacub said:
Well then how am i supposed to take your words when you cant even backup your claim rather than "it's a pm" lmao. So with this circumference, Official translation > your pm

Since when hitting one's ballsack in the heat of battle is considered cheating lmao. what kind of logic is this. Since when there is "you can't hit certain place" rule in a deadly battle. Also, WB did also cheat lmao, he cheap shoted Akainu from behind during the Paramount War, but that's a topic for another day

Also, Oda didnt necessarily need to brought up those names, he could refer to a random man fighting and the mesaage would still get conveyed. The fact Oda brought up those names means something

Lastly, your paragraph long of writing means nothing since you mistakenly interpret the SBS. I laugh my ass off when you say there is a rule not to hit a certain place
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Go ask him then, I told you who it was, and most people knows Sandman from Arlongpark, lmao. Official translation is wrong, because there is no legend word in it. Other translators approved that too, not only Sandman.

That's exactly cheating that's why Oda reacted to it like ''do you want to read a manga like that!!?'', no people don't want to see everyone is trying hit each other from the groins like Kalifa does. You are still being in denial.

Now you think WB should warn Akainu before hitting during the war, LOL. and in your mind this is the same thing as WB hitting Akainu from the groins like Kalifa, is there any limit to your nonsense? It feels like you can say anything to hype your favorite character zoro and mihawk.
 
Red Admiral

Red Admiral

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#64
#64
imacub said:
still i'd rather believe in a qualified translator. Also, i'm a bit curious could you pass me the link regarding what sandman said? @Erkan12

but, the fact Oda mentioned Mihawk instead of Kaido speaks volume, sooo
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I think you should ask Erkan ... I think he can find it faster than me
and Also ... this SBS was before we even saw Kaido ... so ... knowing Oda ... he wouldn't mention Kaido then

and again


Oda in SBS said "Mothers are strong, even stronger than Kaido"
I think this speaks volume as well
cause he is using Kaido as if he is the strongest that can be find
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Jo_Ndule said:
:choppawhat:
Kaido is a legendary pirate with his legends to never die or lose 1 v 1

Rocks are all legendary pirates
Captain John is legendary ,
even katakuri is legendary
but Kaido and BM aren't?

Legends of this era who are active :
Katakuri
Buggy
Mihawk
Shanks
BM
Kaido

Each one known for a different legend they had/did
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Being a Legend is one thing
Being a Legendary fighter is another

I think knowing Shanks and Mihawk are top tier without help of any superpowers .... makes them best fighters alive ... and they should have highest skill as a fighter

I'm talking "skill" here ... not raw power
 
imacub

imacub

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Erkan12 said:
Go ask him then, I told you who it was, and most people knows Sandman from Arlongpark, lmao. Official translation is wrong, because there is no legend word in it. Other translators approved that too, not only Sandman.
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It's not about who he is that matters, it's about you giving something you want people to believe but all you have is only a screenshot which in fact vulnerable to getting fabricated. you're the one whos bringing up this sandman thing so the burden of proof is on you, not on me

Erkan12 said:
That's exactly cheating that's why Oda reacted to it like ''do you want to read a manga like that!!?'', no people don't want to see everyone is trying hit each other from the groins like Kalifa does. You are still being in denial.

Now you think WB should warn Akainu before hitting during the war, LOL. and in your mind this is the same thing as WB hitting Akainu from the groins like Kalifa, is there any limit to your nonsense? It feels like you can say anything to hype your favorite character zoro and mihawk.
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"You could kill me but dont you dare to hit my groins"
:okay:
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Red Admiral said:
I think you should ask Erkan ... I think he can find it faster than me
and Also ... this SBS was before we even saw Kaido ... so ... knowing Oda ... he wouldn't mention Kaido then

and again


Oda in SBS said "Mothers are strong, even stronger than Kaido"
I think this speaks volume as well
cause he is using Kaido as if he is the strongest that can be find
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Being a Legend is one thing
Being a Legendary fighter is another

I think knowing Shanks and Mihawk are top tier without help of any superpowers .... makes them best fighters alive ... and they should have highest skill as a fighter

I'm talking "skill" here ... not raw power
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Im not denying that, nowhere did i say Shanks is stronger than Kaido. What i meant is, the fact Oda chose Mihawk to paired him up with WB and Shanks speaks volume. Do you really expect Oda to pair a random pirate alongside WB and Shanks?

Imagine Oda saying
"Just imagine Whitebeard, Shanks, and some random irrelevant pirate staring each other down, bearing their weighty ideals...and trying to whack each other in the balls!"

How awful is that lol

Fact1 : Oda implied Kaido the strongest
Fact2 : Mihawk is comparable to WB and Shanks

That two doesnt contradict each other
 
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Erkan12

Erkan12

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imacub said:
It's not about who he is that matters, it's about you giving something you want people to believe but all you have is only a screenshot which in fact vulnerable to getting fabricated. you're the one whos bringing up this sandman thing so the burden of proof is on you, not on me



"You could kill me but dont you dare to hit my groins"
:okay:
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Here another guy who understand Japanese;

Den_Den_Mushi said:
. A raw translation of the SBS would go something like this.

まあ確かに急所ですけども
Well that is truly a vital area but

お互いに引けぬ理由もあり
Each other without drawing back, having reasons

対峙して睨み合う
confronting and glaring at each other

白ひげもシャンクスもミホークも
Whitebeard and Shanks and Mihawk

男達は今日も股間を狙って戦う！
Men are today also aiming for the groin when they fight

読みたい？？こんな漫画？
You want to read? This kind of manga?
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No ''legends'' word.
Happy now?
 
imacub

imacub

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#69
#69
Erkan12 said:
Here another guy who understand Japanese;


No ''legends'' word.
Happy now?
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That's the raw trabslations. Official translator could get advice from the author itself to understand things better. We will have to agree to disagree regarding this matter

Also, as i said, the fact Oda chose Mihawk to paired him up with WB and Shanks speaks volume. Do you really expect Oda to pair a random pirate alongside WB and Shanks?

Imagine Oda saying
"Just imagine Whitebeard, Shanks, and some random irrelevant pirate staring each other down, bearing their weighty ideals...and trying to whack each other in the balls!"

How awful is that lol

Fact1 : Oda implied Kaido the strongest
Fact2 : Mihawk is comparable to WB and Shanks

That two doesnt contradict each other

Also, When Oda brought up Kaido to that mother thing, he needed it because it would help him to emphasize the answer, Oda used Kaido as comparison. The same with WB, Shanks, and Mihawk, Oda needed them to emphasize the answer. Oda couldve literally tossed their names out and just picked up random name instead, it implicitly showed Mihawk is comparable to WB and Shanks power level wise

Also, "is that kind of manga you want to read?" means it would be terrible to watch people hitting people groins.

"You could kill me but dont you dare to touch my groins"
:okay:
 
Erkan12

Erkan12

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#70
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imacub said:
That's the raw trabslations. Official translator could get advice from the author itself to understand things better. We will have to agree to disagree regarding this matter

Also, as i said, the fact Oda chose Mihawk to paired him up with WB and Shanks speaks volume. Do you really expect Oda to pair a random pirate alongside WB and Shanks?

Imagine Oda saying
"Just imagine Whitebeard, Shanks, and some random irrelevant pirate staring each other down, bearing their weighty ideals...and trying to whack each other in the balls!"

How awful is that lol

Fact1 : Oda implied Kaido the strongest
Fact2 : Mihawk is comparable to WB and Shanks

That two doesnt contradict each other

Also, When Oda brought up Kaido to that mother thing, he needed it because it would help him to emphasize the answer, Oda used Kaido as comparison. The same with WB, Shanks, and Mihawk, Oda needed them to emphasize the answer. Oda couldve literally tossed their names out and just picked up random name instead, it implicitly showed Mihawk is comparable to WB and Shanks power level wise

Also, "is that kind of manga you want to read?" means it would be terrible to watch people hitting people groins.

"You could kill me but dont you dare to touch my groins"
:okay:
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There's no ''legends'' word in there. That was the thing you were asking for, so you should be happy now.

The context is important; for fighting fair and square. It has nothing to do with power levels. Mihawk is definitely a guy who would fight fair and square, I've no problem with him being used in this example, because it suits him. Replace Mihawk with Zoro. You think that would change the meaning of that quote?

''Whitebeard, Shanks and Zoro are trying to hit each other from groins, is this the kind of manga you want to read?'' The context is fighting fair, even using a fodder, who wouldn't hit you from the groins wouldn't change the meaning of that quote. And as I said if it was related to power, Kaido comes before Shanks but he used Shanks instead of Kaido so that quote has nothing to do with power.
 
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imacub

imacub

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Erkan12 said:
There's no ''legends'' word in there. That was the thing you were asking for, so you should be happy now.

The context is important; for fighting fair and square. It has nothing to do with power levels. Mihawk is definitely a guy who would fight fair and square, I've no problem with him being used in this example, because it suits him. Replace Mihawk with Zoro. You think that would change the meaning of that quote?

''Whitebeard, Shanks and Zoro are trying to hit each other from groins, is this the kind of manga you want to read?'' The context is fighting fair, even using a fodder, who wouldn't hit you from the groins wouldn't change the meaning of that quote. And as I said if it was related to power, Kaido comes before Shanks but he used Shanks instead of Kaido so that quote has nothing to do with power.
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Well i must admit that you're true that by literal there is no "legend" word there

bruh i have nothing to say when you think hitting one's groins is cheating when a battle is literally a matter of death or life

"You could kill me but dont you dare to touch my groin"
:okay:
 
Rekien

Rekien

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#72
#72
Jo_Ndule said:
Kaido is a legendary pirate with his legends to never die or lose 1 v 1
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I mean...never die?
When the person itself wants to die, isnt that a failure instead of an achievement?
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And never lose a 1v1?
:choppawhat:
Hmn....sure....unless you count the 1v1's he has taken hostages right? who knows how many those are....

Kaido, the legend, always bet on him when its a 1v1, because he never fails to secure some hostages.
:gokulaugh:
 
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