Speculations Luffy will save Duke Inuarashi.

Who will save Duke


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#23
Now Duke who is severely injured is fighting against Jack in the vicinity of the opening to get back into Onigashima.
Luffy fell into the sea. Onigashima has reached the shores of Wano. Luffy is simply not going to return to Onigashima before Jack is defeated. Like, how do you imagine that Luffy is returning to Onigashima and making his way to Jack in time?

Because he's currently plummeting to the bottom of the sea and Onigashima is making it's way to the Flower Capital.

BTW, it seems that Duke and Jack are on the 3rd Floor:



And it's hard to fathom that Duke can defeat Jack right now from any narrative standpoint. Him and Neko tried for 5 days straight getting rest every 12 hours while Jack fought straight through the entire time.
  • Narrative induced powerups
  • Ryuo
  • Sulong
Pick your poison.


he's severely nerfed because of his missing leg
Didn't he replace it with a sword? I don't think it's "severely nerfed".
 

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#25
Inu would only win with Neko by his side. Having just 1 of the Dukes emerge victorious over Jack makes no sense when they both hold an equal grudge against him
Inuarashi is not currently fighting Jack for revenge, but so that he doesn't create more victims. Inuarashi also told Nekomamushi to leave Jack to him.

Besides, Inuarashi could be stronger than Nekomamushi; he's one of the four that performed Togen Totsuka after all.


Literally Yamato and Law can still join that fight. Where people "aim" to go vs where they may end up are 2 different things. Not saying they won't reach Yonko, but it doesn't mean they can't encounter Jack first. Both are directly above and below Jack atm. Luffy is entirely off the island
Yamato and Law are needed much more at the Yonkou fights than they are needed vs Jack. Jack is not a threat to the broader war effort currently. His only intention is to deal with the Minks and Raizo. Even if he defeats Inuarashi and is freed, he's far from a priority.

Linlin is a loose Cannon and virtually a natural disaster. She's regained a three of her homies, and Law has expressed his desire to engage her.

Bao Huang declared that Kaido is heading below the Rooftop to oversee clean up:

He's already taken out Kinemon and is heading for Momonosuke. He needs to be stopped, and Yamato is the only unoccupied that's strong enough to do so (if you assume that Law makes it to Linlin).

Yamato also needs to fight Kaido.

Your argument for Law/Yamato dealing with Jack seems to rest on two premises I find dubious:
  • That Jack will defeat Inuarashi.
    • Inuarashi may yet win, but even if he doesn't, he can probably hold off Jack for a while before he goes down.
  • That after Jack defeats Inuarashi, he'll need to be stopped.
    • Compared to Kaido and Linlin, Jack doesn't even register as a threat.
    • Furthermore, Jack has displayed no indication to interfere with the core objectives of the alliance (protecting Momonosuke, defeating the Yonkou) and only seems to be acting out of some personal vendetta against the Dukes and Raizou.

Tl;Dr: it's the Yonkou not Jack that needs to be stopped.
 
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Inuarashi is not currently fighting Jack for revenge, but so that he doesn't create more victims. Inuarashi also told Nekomamushi to leave Jack to him.

Besides, Inuarashi could be stronger; he's one of the four that performed Togen Totsuka after all.



Yamato and Law are needed much more at the Yonkou fights than they are needed vs Jack. Jack is not a threat to the broader war effort currently. His only intention is to deal with the Minks and Raizo. Even if he defeats Inuarashi and is freed, he's far from a priority.

Linlin is a loose Cannon and virtually a natural disaster. She's regained a three of her homies, and Law has expressed his desire to engage her.

Bao Huang declared that Kaido is heading below the Rooftop to oversee clean up:

He's already taken out Kinemon and is heading for Momonosuke. He needs to be stopped, and Yamato is the only unoccupied that's strong enough to do so (if you assume that Law makes it to Linlin).

Yamato also needs to fight Kaido.

Your argument for Law/Yamato dealing with Jack seems to rest on two premises I find dubious:
  • That Jack will defeat Inuarashi.
    • Inuarashi may yet win, but even if he doesn't, he can probably hold off Jack for a while before he goes down.
  • That after Jack defeats Inuarashi, he'll need to be stopped.
    • Compared to Kaido and Linlin, Jack doesn't even register as a threat.
    • Furthermore, Jack has displayed no indication to interfere with the core objectives of the alliance (protecting Momonosuke, defeating the Yonkou) and only seems to be acting out of some personal vendetta against the Dukes and Raizou.

Tl;Dr: it's the Yonkou not Jack that needs to be stopped.
Inu is not stronger than Jack. Did you forget Zou
 
#27
Well TBH I have no idea if that will be the case for Luffy. But in general it could happen and the idea of Luffy beating Jack sounds not that bad.

Somewhere someone posted that Luffy sometimes fights the 3 strongest Crew Member besides the Captain for instance Blueno of CP9 and Cracker from BM Pirates ...
 

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#28
Inu is not stronger than Jack. Did you forget Zou
I meant stronger than Nekomamushi. I've edited my post to remove the ambiguity:
Besides, Inuarashi could be stronger than Nekomamushi; he's one of the four that performed Togen Totsuka after all.
That said, I'm sceptical that Inuarashi used Ryuo during their 5 Day Zou fight.
 
#29
I meant stronger than Nekomamushi. I've edited my post to remove the ambiguity:


That said, I'm sceptical that Inuarashi used Ryuo during their 5 Day Zou fight.
Why would he not use Ryou while his whole country is getting destroyed. Yall gotta stop downplaying these beast pirates. Which us the reason Jinbei fighting a flying 6 for 2 hours( Peoe taught jinbei was going to beat an commander) ulti low diff Nami n Ussop when she got serious. Jack fought both Duke taking turns resting and they couldn't defeat him. Inu is stalling Jack. If Inu beats Jack Oda just writing anything.
 
#30
Inuarashi is not currently fighting Jack for revenge, but so that he doesn't create more victims. Inuarashi also told Nekomamushi to leave Jack to him.

Besides, Inuarashi could be stronger than Nekomamushi; he's one of the four that performed Togen Totsuka after all.



Yamato and Law are needed much more at the Yonkou fights than they are needed vs Jack. Jack is not a threat to the broader war effort currently. His only intention is to deal with the Minks and Raizo. Even if he defeats Inuarashi and is freed, he's far from a priority.

Linlin is a loose Cannon and virtually a natural disaster. She's regained a three of her homies, and Law has expressed his desire to engage her.

Bao Huang declared that Kaido is heading below the Rooftop to oversee clean up:

He's already taken out Kinemon and is heading for Momonosuke. He needs to be stopped, and Yamato is the only unoccupied that's strong enough to do so (if you assume that Law makes it to Linlin).

Yamato also needs to fight Kaido.

Your argument for Law/Yamato dealing with Jack seems to rest on two premises I find dubious:
  • That Jack will defeat Inuarashi.
    • Inuarashi may yet win, but even if he doesn't, he can probably hold off Jack for a while before he goes down.
  • That after Jack defeats Inuarashi, he'll need to be stopped.
    • Compared to Kaido and Linlin, Jack doesn't even register as a threat.
    • Furthermore, Jack has displayed no indication to interfere with the core objectives of the alliance (protecting Momonosuke, defeating the Yonkou) and only seems to be acting out of some personal vendetta against the Dukes and Raizou.

Tl;Dr: it's the Yonkou not Jack that needs to be stopped.
No, Inu and Neko are the only duo in OP, besides Dorry and Brogy, who have been portrayed consistently as true equals. Inu being one of the four to perform the Togen Totsuka means nothing since Kinemon also took a part in it and he’s obviously weaker than Neko. Neko didn’t get to perform it because he doesn’t use a sword
 

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#32
No, Inu and Neko are the only duo in OP, besides Dorry and Brogy, who have been portrayed consistently as true equals. Inu being one of the four to perform the Togen Totsuka means nothing since Kinemon also took a part in it and he’s obviously weaker than Neko. Neko didn’t get to perform it because he doesn’t use a sword
Kinemon may have higher attack power than Nekomamushi.

I agree that the Dukes were portrayed as equals, but they didn't have equal showings against Dragon Kaido, so I'm considering the option that Inuarashi might (now?) be stronger.
 
#33
Kinemon may have higher attack power than Nekomamushi.

I agree that the Dukes were portrayed as equals, but they didn't have equal showings against Dragon Kaido, so I'm considering the option that Inuarashi might (now?) be stronger.
If anything, Neko should be the stronger one now because losing an arm is much less crippling when it comes to fighting than losing a leg is
 

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#34
If anything, Neko should be the stronger one now because losing an arm is much less crippling when it comes to fighting than losing a leg is
Not really, Inuarashi replaced his leg with a sword. Swordsmanship is a superior combat style to marksmanship at the higher tiers.

Inuarashi should also have higher AP than Nekomamushi via the likes of Togen Totsuka.
 
#35
Luffy fell into the sea. Onigashima has reached the shores of Wano. Luffy is simply not going to return to Onigashima before Jack is defeated. Like, how do you imagine that Luffy is returning to Onigashima and making his way to Jack in time?

Because he's currently plummeting to the bottom of the sea and Onigashima is making it's way to the Flower Capital.

BTW, it seems that Duke and Jack are on the 3rd Floor:




  • Narrative induced powerups
  • Ryuo
  • Sulong
Pick your poison.



Didn't he replace it with a sword? I don't think it's "severely nerfed".
It took hours for Onigashima to reach the shores of Wano. The Flower Capital is smack dead in the middle of the Country, so it's not like it's going to be touching down anytime soon.

Luffy is going to be saved. That's a given, and I sincerely doubt he's going to be spending another hour or so at the bottom of the sea before he gets rescued. Obviously Laws crew, who is following the Island in the submarine, is going to save him. Then he flies back up with G4.

It's definitely a big nerf because it creates mobility issues. It might not have looked like it in the Kaido fight, but that's because Duke had 8 other people fighting alongside him.

Look at both Zeff and Kyros. Oda has made it pretty clear that losing a leg is a big deal in One Piece. Zeff had to retire from piracy, and Kyros, who was pretty much Dressrosa's one man army struggled to defeat Diamante, who would have been low diff material to two legged Kyros.

Also, the hole Big Mom created spans the second and third floor.

 
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