Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
Yeah, you and me might not be on the same wavelength lots of times but this is what I've been talking about in the other thread. I don't know about Finalbeta's past but he accused you of being an alt account of a guy named Avalon which is mighty farfetched and is taking things too far imo. Watson had valid points and if he'd really respect her private space he should indeed stop to tag her.

Tepig is best pig in mafia btw.
Regarding Avalon (also known as A Optimistic on NF/FanVerse) just read about this:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-be-my-valentine.39173/page-112#post-4052046

Short story that NFers already know: he is a guy known to make dupe forum accounts of females or of me on Discord he uses to play around or bully and in the past he attempted to interact with me with those and even gave mods fake forum/Discord screenshots to make it look like I had done something wrong with his duplicate accounts. He uses photoshop a lot and loves to create dupes.

This is Ava for you.
 
Regarding Avalon (also known as A Optimistic on NF/FanVerse) just read about this:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...e-be-my-valentine.39173/page-112#post-4052046

Short story that NFers already know: he is a guy known to make dupe forum accounts of females or of me on Discord he uses to play around or bully and in the past he attempted to interact with me with those and even gave mods fake forum/Discord screenshots to make it look like I had done something wrong with his duplicate accounts. He uses photoshop a lot and loves to create dupes.

This is Ava for you.
What am I supposed to see here? You want to repeat that story? hime has been playing mafia for years afaik and has played lots of games when you weren't even around. I don't see how this would make sense for her being an alt account that exists to shade you.
 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
What am I supposed to see here? You want to repeat that story? hime has been playing mafia for years afaik and has played lots of games when you weren't even around. I don't see how this would make sense for her being an alt account that exists to shade you.
Avalon makes duplicate accounts to play Mafia on other forums and play around with the users of that forum, this has been his history. He did that on TMF (another forum) as well, although he also had a main there with his real name because he was more into that forum compared to this one.

So it's not just about me, he loves to troll around more in general.
 
Avalon makes duplicate accounts to play Mafia on other forums and play around with the users of that forum, this has been his history. He did that on TMF (another forum) as well, although he also had a main there with his real name because he was more into that forum compared to this one.

So it's not just about me, he loves to troll around more generically.
Stop, I known Hime for a decade, she doesn't deserve this accusation
 

Finalbeta

Ging Freecss stan
Stop, I known Hime for a decade, she doesn't deserve this accusation
I've not stated that I'm 100% sure but that post I highlighted speaks for itself and the way hime types doesn't sound genuine.

She even followed me on WG the other day, why would that happen if it was not for trolling.

I might be wrong of course but given the history of offences that guy did against me I'm particularly skeptical.

If the guy thinks that I'm an idiot then his calculations have failed cause I might take it to court one day.
 
I've not stated that I'm 100% sure but that post I highlighted speaks for itself and the way hime types doesn't sound genuine.

She even followed me on WG the other day, why would that happen if it was not for trolling.

I might be wrong of course but given the history of offences that guy did against me I'm particularly skeptical.

If the guy thinks that I'm an idiot then his calculations have failed cause I might take it to court one day.
I said I know her, drop the subject and put her on ignore

That's all
 
When making such hard alt accusations they should be provided by hard evidence.

Look, everyone, I get it, lot of you ain't interested much of what I have to say or asking themselves why I even care and I'm also not in a position where I could change things in this mafia section. There are players I do enjoy playing with and despite some not having wanted me to be the rep this year I am the rep this year after all, so like I did in that deleted post I wanted to warn you about negative impressions potential visitors will notice and as I've recently experienced how a friendly atmosphere can even change your own mood, mind and character too, I'd suggest for measures to be considered to make this a less toxic environment. In other places, even when you lose, you could still go out with a good feeling. Do with this info whatever you want.
 
hi. pot-stirrer here.

u can say you've changed all you want and u can ask for forgiveness and try to scarlett-letter us by saying everyone does bad stuff to some degree and the big difference is that you've been outted and others havent

BUT

forgiveness is hard thing to do when you've been hurt, esp if it happened at an early age cuz the pain has had time to fester and linger. so like

maybe curb your expectations here?

i dont think u can just show up and beg for forgiveness and expect everyone to just roll with it. forgiveness is hard and most ppl will probably not forget / still be apprehensive cuz a breach of trust happened and trust is hard to earn back

i dont think things can ever be back to how they were. im not privy to all the details but like

basically if you're a reformed big-bad wolf u cant just suddenly return and unblow the houses down and expect the 3 little pigs to not be terrified of u. idk what baby steps towards reassimilating look like here or if it's even possible to do, but also sometimes some things cannot be undone and sometimes u just need the tact to bow out gracefully and move on. but yeah u are not entitled to forgiveness, nor are your victims obligated to give it to you. forgiveness is a gift for a reason but like it's a hard gift to give.

but yeah i empathize tho im a piece of shit too and i want forgiveness and mending for the bad things i've done but like still

i'm just saying u might not get what u want out of this here and u might have to accept the L and back off. or perhaps u need to settle for less than a prodigal son welcome party. like maybe u dont play the mafia game but u are unbanned at least so u can like talk to other ppl here and such

oh also ik some ppl here like to make conspiracy theories (im a conspiracy theorist in mafia all the time), but maybe dont overreact at the first bit of resistance to your return and accuse random ppl of being a sleeper-agent alt of your long-lost rival who u think just activated once they saw u return

it was funny at first cuz it's just so out there (why is it that after the first bit of criticism the first thing u do is accuse your critics of being trolls and frauds out to drag your name through the mud instead of actually considering their critiques unless you're so certain you're right and they're wrong), but now it's just kinda sad cuz like that avalon guy must've really hurt u

idk i think this is gonna be a sad situation and i dont think anyone is gonna be left happier or better off from it

i also dont know if any party is really willing to budge here and part of any fruitful debate is a willingness to change viewpoints so like, i doubt this conversation is gonna meaningly move anywhere so ppl will prob just be wasting their time and energy continuing it

but if anything for selfish reasons at least it's a fun shitshow to watch unfold. or at least it was before it just became sad
 
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