Character Discussion Marco Feels like one of the biggest Failure

[sanjikun]

COC means potential not actual power level

Ace had COC for years and yet you can’t say the version of Ace that stalemated Jimbo was stronger than Marco

Same for Doffy who wasn’t stronger than Marco

Etc etc

Kata has more potential than Marco no doubt about it

Kata was the YC1 and the special one of his crew. He was both. While for the others Marco was the YC1 and Ace the special one and King was the YC1 and Yamato the special one.

WCI Kata wasn’t stronger than Marco. Still afraid of his mouth, still bound to his mother, still with a leash. Luffy kinda freed him, and BM downfall only accelerated this again. Next time we will see him Kata will likely be quite stronger and EOS he will be even better.

‘But Marco > WCI Kata

And Marco > King btw

CoC is potential when you're a child, not adult. As an adult, all CoC user are top fighters. Doffy, Katakuri, etc. all these guys are stronger than Marco. Get a grip.

CoC has become a minimum standard for a reason. Some of you have their watch stuck on MF timing when it comes to powerscaling and it shows.

 

[soupongo]

all CoC user are top fighters. Doffy are stronger than Marco. Get a grip.

 

[sanjikun]

Yeah, Oda doesn't give af about your headcanon powerscaling. Marco will end up with a lower bounty than Jinbe EoS.

Literally every single ex-warlord will tower over Marco. Fucking Dorry and Broggy are 400 mill over Marco.

 

[soupongo]

Yeah, Oda doesn't give af about your headcanon powerscaling. Marco will end up with a lower bounty than Jinbe EoS.

Literally every single ex-warlord will tower over Marco. Fucking Dorry and Broggy are 400 mill over Marco.

Is it headcanon that Doffy ran from Tsuru while Marco fought Kizaru?

Dorry and Broggy were pre TS characters, like Crocodile, But there standing in universe was made obvious. Doffy had 2 years in post timeskip, He lost to g4 Luffy and pre awakening Law

 

[sanjikun]

Is it headcanon that Doffy ran from Tsuru while Marco fought Kizaru?

Dorry and Broggy were pre TS characters, like Crocodile, But there standing in universe was made obvious. Doffy had 2 years in post timeskip, He lost to g4 Luffy and pre awakening Law

Thanks for the verbal diarrhea, but Dorry/Broggy had 100 mill bounties pre-TS, and Doffy 340 million FROZEN. It wasn't even close. Now their updated are similar to Crocodile, just like pre-TS. And they SHIT on Marco.

Marco is a KFC chicken who can't compete with Dorry and Broggy let alone Conqueror Haki users. He'd end up just like Jozu in a real fight against an Admiral: a frozen chicken.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Thanks for the verbal diarrhea, but Dorry/Broggy had 100 mill bounties pre-TS, and Doffy 340 million FROZEN. It wasn't even close. Now their updated are similar to Crocodile, just like pre-TS. And they SHIT on Marco.

Marco is a KFC chicken who can't compete with Dorry and Broggy let alone Conqueror Haki users. He'd end up just like Jozu in a real fight against an Admiral: a frozen chicken.

Is Crocodile below Hancock? She has Conq Haki and he doesn't

 

[sanjikun]

Is Crocodile below Hancock? She has Conq Haki and he doesn't

Hancock has not hit her prime yet (29 pre-TS, 31 post-TS) so that point is moot. We will see whether Croc has CoC or not. He will most likely have it imo.

 

[soupongo]

Thanks for the verbal diarrhea, but Dorry/Broggy had 100 mill bounties pre-TS, and Doffy 340 million FROZEN. It wasn't even close. Now their updated are similar to Crocodile, just like pre-TS. And they SHIT on Marco.

Marco is a KFC chicken who can't compete with Dorry and Broggy let alone Conqueror Haki users. He'd end up just like Jozu in a real fight against an Admiral: a frozen chicken.

the top bounties weren't established pre TS, 100s million was supposed to be a big deal, as we can see with Dorry,Broggy/Crocodile/Ace/even Robin supposed to be globally infamous..... Even Doffy's frozen bounty is way too low as it was after over a decade of piracy and terrorizing the north blue/blackmailing the WG.

Marco already fought admirals bro. He didn't dodge them like Doffy dodged Kuzan,Fujitora and Tsuru, lol.

 

[sanjikun]

the top bounties weren't established pre TS, 100s million was supposed to be a big deal, as we can see with Dorry,Broggy/Crocodile/Ace/even Robin supposed to be globally infamous..... Even Doffy's frozen bounty is way too low as it was after over a decade of piracy and terrorizing the north blue/blackmailing the WG.

They were all literally revealed around Alabasta arc. DD right after Croc's defeat, and D/B right before. Doffy towered over Croc/D/B, and those guys are way higher than Marco atm.

Marco already fought admirals bro. He didn't dodge them like Doffy dodged Kuzan,Fujitora and Tsuru, lol.

Marco was fighting Admirals but he needed 17 different people to stall Akainu for 2 minutes. Cool story bro

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Hancock has not hit her prime yet (29 pre-TS, 31 post-TS) so that point is moot. We will see whether Croc has CoC or not. He will most likely have it imo.

Oh now it's about whether they hit their prime or not. You're full of shit bro

 

[sanjikun]

Oh now it's about whether they hit their prime or not. You're full of shit bro

8 year olds can use CoC, retard. Of course it is about your prime.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

8 year olds can use CoC, retard. Of course it is about your prime.

Doffy's in his prime and likely can't even KO a Rear Admiral with his Conq Haki. Conq Haki is just about the user's own strength and willpower, nothing else matters.

 

[Ven437]

I don't mind that but on panel marco was shown in better light against admirals than king or queen. Marco even got the better of Kizaru the same Kizaru who speed blitzed yonko luffy.

Yes on panel Marco has the massively better feats vs an admiral. But portrayal ultimately matters the most and marco’s portrayal is of YC1 alongside King and Kata. Bounty, age, position, and his overwhelming defeat against a newcomer yonko. Letting the new gen take over (other two lost to the new gen). Plus he is paralled wanting to be recruit by Shanks same way King was getting recruited by BM

Marco is the YC1 on the good side just like WB was on the good side Oda clearly respects WB crew

 

[soupongo]

They were all literally revealed around Alabasta arc. DD right after Croc's defeat, and D/B right before. Doffy towered over Croc/D/B, and those guys are way higher than Marco atm.



Marco was fighting Admirals but he needed 17 different people to stall Akainu for 2 minutes. Cool story bro

Nah, the years are significant actually. Little Garden came out in 1999, when Oda planned for OP to be short, ending in 5 years. Jaya is when he started expanding on several things, at that point he knew the manga would go on for a long time and started building stuff up.

I don't care how many people Marco brought to jump Akainu, Doffy had his whole crew and dodged Tsuru.....

COC doesn't matter much. Doffy is a DF man through and through, without his fruit he loses to Vergo.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Yes on panel Marco has the massively better feats vs an admiral. But portrayal ultimately matters the most and marco’s portrayal is of YC1 alongside King and Kata. Bounty, age, position, and his overwhelming defeat against a newcomer yonko. Letting the new gen take over (other two lost to the new gen). Plus he is paralled wanting to be recruit by Shanks same way King was getting recruited by BM

Marco is the YC1 on the good side just like WB was on the good side Oda clearly respects WB crew

He lost to Gura BB tbf who was top tier. I am not saying he is way above king/Kata but he is definitely superior. I don't think oda will write marco losing that bad against GB. And I am a king fan.

 

[soupongo]

He lost to Gura BB tbf who was top tier. I am not saying he is way above king/Kata but he is definitely superior. I don't think oda will write marco losing that bad against GB. And I am a king fan.

Btw, when you realize WB and BP are kind of similar
Marco: King
Jozu:Queen

The Ace of the crew would have been Yamato(Kaido wanted to make her shogun of Wano, allegedly WB wanted to make Ace PK)

Jack Sama is the Vista....

I wonder what an alternate universe where Teach and Ace were beast pirates would be like.