General & Others Marineford vs the raid at Onigashima : Which is better?

which is better?


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#43
People who voted Marineford prefer a buffet, little and variegated bites here and there, no full meal

People who voted Onigashima prefer a full dinner with many dishes, like them or not

It's a strange comparison but rapresents the core difference between Marineford and Onigashima pretty well
 
#45
Marineford: entire Marine force + shichibukai vs 1 yonko crew

Result: 2 major deaths and thousands of fodders dying

Onigashima: half the Supernovas + wano samurai vs 2 yonko minus 1 crew

Results: no deaths

:saden:
 
#47
I liked:

East Blue Saga
Arabasta Saga
Water 7 Saga
Thriller Bark Saga
Summit War Saga
: All arcs including Shabaody, Amazon Lily, Impel Down, Post War Arc, but not Marine Ford.

Fish-man Island Saga
Dressros saga
was also good to some extent.


I dont hate One Piece, but I dont like fake hype from authors.
Oda gathered all of the big boys in Marine Ford. That was the first and only fight so far where so many powerful individuals gathered and no one took serious injury or died except Ace and WB.


Instead of freeing Ace, it was a stage set for WB's grand death.
What I hate is, Oda used numbers to troll the readers. What I wanted was 1v1 fights, not Admirals standing at the stage 90% of time and enjoying the war as if it was circus. Only Akainu was active, while Kizaru and Aokiji just showed off some fancy moves that didnt do shit.


I am accustomed to reading stand alone arcs, where all characters participate actively and contribute meaningfuly to the story. Not some some fights in slow motion without any conclusion.

For example, take JJK's Shibuya Arc. Todo and Itadori vs. Mahito, they did their best, no holding backs.
Naruto: countless such fights, with meaningful results. Not only at macro level, but at micro level as well.


Sengoku and Garp could destory WB pirates, but they didnt. Yes, I know they respected WB. But, it is author's fault to first get them at the stage. Why so much conflict, it is like author cant decide what I should do.
It is true that he needs to tell the story of how the characters feel inside, but that was not the case. Strong people fight to death, not stand and look at their opponents like they were in circus.
I can go on, but it wont make sense to you. I have a different POV, you can like MF, but I dont. Never once in my life I said that MF was great.
Oda got away with it, that's why we saw Zou, WCI, and now Wano.


MF gave Oda such confidence, and he thought my readers like this type of show.
I have a question,
dont you think most of the problems OP has now started after MF?


Some blame TS, but what happened before TS? Marine Ford.
 
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