General & Others Mihawk never said he was inferior to Whitebeard...
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Yes, but that's what Oda was doing at that point in time. The first section of Marineford was all commander hype. Especially that chapter.
Mihawk and Kizaru were used as hype tools for commanders. They served their purpose well since those are established top tiers while we didn't know how strong these commanders were at all.
In the long term we got scammed though yea.
Mihawk and Kizaru were used as hype tools for commanders. They served their purpose well since those are established top tiers while we didn't know how strong these commanders were at all.
In the long term we got scammed though yea.
Why would a title obtained long before Mihawk's relevance power-wise, on top of Crocodile and WB himself confirming that he aint WSM in the present, affect Mihawk? You really thought all this time that the first WS title holder that Oda discarded would be stronger than the one Oda saved up for last? That still logical to you? 
Why would a title obtained long before Mihawk's relevance power-wise, on top of Crocodile and WB himself confirming that he aint WSM in the present, affect Mihawk? You really thought all this time that the first WS title holder that Oda discarded would be stronger than the one Oda saved up for last? That still logical to you?
Strongest swordsman > swordsman
You can spew as much nonsense as you want, the canon won't change.
If you dont know that those two mean the same, on top of context of Crocodile calling him a weakling, it is a matter of reading comprehension...
...which is the entire point of my thread here, people failed at it and thought for 26 years that Mihawk was testing himself, lol.
Perfectly describing one of those who thought Mihawk measured power level between himself and WB.
...which is the entire point of my thread here, people failed at it and thought for 26 years that Mihawk was testing himself, lol.
Perfectly describing one of those who thought Mihawk measured power level between himself and WB.
he actually absolutely could and his character is clearly established to be able to do this. he wasn't in marineford to obediently take out whitebeard, he was in marineford to pursue his own interests and then leave.
"im measuring the distance between Whitebeard and myself" -> he learns Whitebeard is weak and old and sick and not a challenge. diamond jozu has to jump in and block for whitebeard, because Whitebeard can't block the slash himself. Mihawk immediately loses interest.
the idea that he *can't* cut diamond is absurd. a true swordsman cuts what he wishes to cut, and does not cut what he wishes to not cut. he was never aiming for Jozu so he doesn't cut him. It's as simple as that. Seastone is as hard as diamond, and people cut seastone. Mihawk could cut Jozu in half easily.
He cut the iceberg with a nameless flying slash. If he did that to the entire island he'd just cut marineford in half and sink 99% of ships, yes, that's what the manga tells you.
"can luffy escape this black blade" is not him going all out on luffy, it's him allowing Yoru to attack without his control, to see if he can escape that fate. That's why he always says "this power" and "this black blade" and not "my power". We already know from Zoro on multiple occasions (kitetsu, shusui, enma) that swords have their own personality and can choose to cut (or cut more than intended) on their own.
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nik the reading comprehension idiot again thinking that mihawk is the world's most long distance measuring tape. never seen someone bring up "reading comprehension" so much and be such an illiterate every single time
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how can you read Marineford and see the clear scenes meant to show Whitebeard fail to use even the most basic of haki and not think it''s about strength? Whitebeard was a man who could defend from attacks in his sleep and defeated Ace, a logia user, without even waking up from his nap. He gets snuck by Squard and never sees it coming, because he couldn't muster basic Observation. Whitebeard clashed equally with Roger because his haki was so strong, but in Marineford he attacks Kuzan and when a bystander goes "He stabbed him with pure haki!" Kuzan says "Don't be ridiculous." because he wasn't stabbed with haki at all. Whitebeard couldn't even muster basic Armament. Whitebeard tries to use a CoC burst and has a heart attack, so Luffy does it for him. Whitebeard can't use the basic forms of any type of haki. Marineford Whitebeard is so far below his peak that it's a major part of the storytelling, that's why he needed all of his allies and subordinate crews and random unexpected allies from Luffy and Impel Down, and still couldn't pull it off. He failed when Peak Whitebeard would have succeeded. He literally is weak. The story of Marineford is the old generation being old, and trying to preserve the new gen.
"im measuring the distance between Whitebeard and myself" -> he learns Whitebeard is weak and old and sick and not a challenge. diamond jozu has to jump in and block for whitebeard, because Whitebeard can't block the slash himself. Mihawk immediately loses interest.
the idea that he *can't* cut diamond is absurd. a true swordsman cuts what he wishes to cut, and does not cut what he wishes to not cut. he was never aiming for Jozu so he doesn't cut him. It's as simple as that. Seastone is as hard as diamond, and people cut seastone. Mihawk could cut Jozu in half easily.
He cut the iceberg with a nameless flying slash. If he did that to the entire island he'd just cut marineford in half and sink 99% of ships, yes, that's what the manga tells you.
"can luffy escape this black blade" is not him going all out on luffy, it's him allowing Yoru to attack without his control, to see if he can escape that fate. That's why he always says "this power" and "this black blade" and not "my power". We already know from Zoro on multiple occasions (kitetsu, shusui, enma) that swords have their own personality and can choose to cut (or cut more than intended) on their own.
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If you dont know that those two mean the same, on top of context of Crocodile calling him a weakling, it is a matter of reading comprehension...
...which is the entire point of my thread here, people failed at it and thought for 26 years that Mihawk was testing himself, lol.
Perfectly describing one of those who thought Mihawk measured power level between himself and WB.
...which is the entire point of my thread here, people failed at it and thought for 26 years that Mihawk was testing himself, lol.
Perfectly describing one of those who thought Mihawk measured power level between himself and WB.
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how can you read Marineford and see the clear scenes meant to show Whitebeard fail to use even the most basic of haki and not think it''s about strength? Whitebeard was a man who could defend from attacks in his sleep and defeated Ace, a logia user, without even waking up from his nap. He gets snuck by Squard and never sees it coming, because he couldn't muster basic Observation. Whitebeard clashed equally with Roger because his haki was so strong, but in Marineford he attacks Kuzan and when a bystander goes "He stabbed him with pure haki!" Kuzan says "Don't be ridiculous." because he wasn't stabbed with haki at all. Whitebeard couldn't even muster basic Armament. Whitebeard tries to use a CoC burst and has a heart attack, so Luffy does it for him. Whitebeard can't use the basic forms of any type of haki. Marineford Whitebeard is so far below his peak that it's a major part of the storytelling, that's why he needed all of his allies and subordinate crews and random unexpected allies from Luffy and Impel Down, and still couldn't pull it off. He failed when Peak Whitebeard would have succeeded. He literally is weak. The story of Marineford is the old generation being old, and trying to preserve the new gen.
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You need to realize that Mihawk never admitted inferiority to Whitebeard.
Seems like even a detailed explanation couldnt help...
Seems like even a detailed explanation couldnt help...
The whole thing is not about power level... It never was.
It was always about Whitebeard appearing where nobody expected him - very close to MF's front lines.
Thus, in Mihawk's and Kizaru's eyes, he is served on a silver platter and both try the same thing - to eliminate him right away.
However, despite the close physical distance and WB being in killing range for Mihawk(and Kizaru), the true distance is much larger because competent commanders are in the way and, as Marco says, the king cannot be taken that early on.
That's all there is, no Mihawk admitting anything or wanting to test himself as many interpreted...
It was always about Whitebeard appearing where nobody expected him - very close to MF's front lines.
Thus, in Mihawk's and Kizaru's eyes, he is served on a silver platter and both try the same thing - to eliminate him right away.
However, despite the close physical distance and WB being in killing range for Mihawk(and Kizaru), the true distance is much larger because competent commanders are in the way and, as Marco says, the king cannot be taken that early on.
That's all there is, no Mihawk admitting anything or wanting to test himself as many interpreted...