Questions & Mysteries Monster Trio Training during Time Skip

[Sadistic Senpai]

Not a head canon he beat them before training.

Not headcanon he was heavily injured when he beat them

Not headcanon there being a huge gap between a healthy zoro and the monkeys


Not headcanon you grow most in extreme situations

Not headcanon he lost an eye

Not headcanon mihawk being the only one there strong enough to take it

Not headcanon the monkeys are jolly farmers now.


So what point do you actually have ?

One question... did he beat them before that last time when he bowed down to Mihawk? and then returned stronger and started to copy? or not?

If your answer is No... then you are LYING
If your answer is YES... then those humandrills are evolving with Zoro... making them his training method.. while Mihawk gives him some tips... that's all

 

[nik87]

This again shows me you skipped lots of manga panels regarding Luffy's training with Rayleigh... you really need to re-read the series... ironically you skipped some panels regarding Zoro as well... but I'm not surprised that you skipped it considering it would undermine your vision of what Zoro's training was like.... specially the part where Mihawk explains to Zoro what "Humandrills" are!
But again... you're very free to stay stuck in your belief

You are still dodging it because you dont have actually anything to place Luffy's training and trainer above Zoro's.
Idk how you think Humandrils are helping your argument but the truth is, they arent helping you...
Facts speak against your claims. Too weak EL PUs vs no need for EL PU, fighting animals vs fighting Mihawk.

 

[HA001]

One question... did he beat them before that last time when he bowed down to Mihawk? and then returned stronger and started to copy? or not?

If your answer is No... then you are LYING
If your answer is YES... then those humandrills are evolving with Zoro... making them his training method.. while Mihawk gives him some tips... that's all

Yes a half dead heavily wounded zoro beat them. And mihawk tells perona tend to his wounds.
A healthy zoro > the one who beat the monkeys.
If the humandrills could bridge that gap through evolving theyd be fighting mihawk with how long hes been there theres no way there growth rate superceeds zoros.
We see jolly farmer monkeys what a fee weeks after zoro returned from his training ?
So are you insinuating they flipped the switch in that short time to go from beast monkeys that could fight post skip zoro to jolly farmer monkeys ?

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

You are still dodging it because you dont have actually anything to place Luffy's training and trainer above Zoro's.
Idk how you think Humandrils are helping your argument but the truth is, they arent helping you...
Facts speak against your claims. Too weak EL PUs vs no need for EL PU, fighting animals vs fighting Mihawk.

LOL.. you don't know how humandrills help with argument? LMAO.. that's because they are the ones fighting Zoro in training buddy.. not Mihawk... they get defeated.. but they end up learning your technique and copy you and get stronger when they come back later... happened to Zoro already before Zoro bowed his head down to Mihawk...
Zoro has been fighting them for the entirety of the duration of "Amazon Lily + Impel Down + Marineford + some period after Mihawk arrived"
Everytime Zoro beats them.. they get back stronger by copying techniques...
Zoro's opponent was NOT Mihawk.. get it through your heads... it was Humandrills baboons again and again and again and again... while Mihawk was giving him tips... on the sideline... and sure he might have clashed with Zoro on some occasions like Rayleigh did with Luffy to test a certain skill/technique...
But this training was NOT Zoro vs Mihawk for 2 years

 

[HA001]

LOL.. you don't know how humandrills help with argument? LMAO.. that's because they are the ones fighting Zoro in training buddy.. not Mihawk... they get defeated.. but they end up learning your technique and copy you and get stronger when they come back later... happened to Zoro already before Zoro bowed his head down to Mihawk...
Zoro has been fighting them for the entirety of the duration of "Amazon Lily + Impel Down + Marineford + some period after Mihawk arrived"
Everytime Zoro beats them.. they get back stronger by copying techniques...
Zoro's opponent was NOT Mihawk.. get it through your heads... it was Humandrills baboons again and again and again and again... while Mihawk was giving him tips... on the sideline... and sure he might have clashed with Zoro on some occasions like Rayleigh did with Luffy to test a certain skill/technique...
But this training was NOT Zoro vs Mihawk for 2 years

Wasnt zoro being bugged by perona and building a raft to leave all that time ?

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

I still don’t think we’ve seen all the fruits of Zoro and Sanji’s respective labors. The former studied under the WSS and hasn’t really shown any skills/moves more substantial than what he had before, and the latter learned 99 recipes for Newkama Kempo and has maybe demonstrated two or three. Getting a little late in the game for Oda to showcase their full array of new powers...

Zoro's attacks clearly seems like 10x more powers in them...based on Zoro's Pound attacks... so his labors made him 10x stronger at least ....

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Zoro's attacks clearly seems like 10x more powers in them...based on Zoro's Pound attacks... so his labors made him 10x stronger at least ....

They’re certainly stronger versions of skills he owned prior to the time skip...nothing wrong with that whatsoever, but unless he picked up any new abilities (which it currently seems like he hasn’t OR he has but just hasn’t shown them), can we really say his training was noticeably better than what Luffy and/or Sanji received??

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

They’re certainly stronger versions of skills he owned prior to the time skip...nothing wrong with that whatsoever, but unless he picked up any new abilities (which it currently seems like he hasn’t OR he has but just hasn’t shown them), can we really say his training was noticeably better than what Luffy and/or Sanji received??

Its based on Zoro being the one who trained most usually, Luffy didnt nor Sanji....Luffy 1.5 years of Training, Zoro had 2 years and he would never slack off and show weakness in front of his what you could say Mortal Enemy his pride wouldnt let him based on what was shown of him...Sanji, no need to talk about his training environment

 

[nik87]

LOL.. you don't know how humandrills help with argument? LMAO.. that's because they are the ones fighting Zoro in training buddy.. not Mihawk... they get defeated.. but they end up learning your technique and copy you and get stronger when they come back later... happened to Zoro already before Zoro bowed his head down to Mihawk...
Zoro has been fighting them for the entirety of the duration of "Amazon Lily + Impel Down + Marineford + some period after Mihawk arrived"
Everytime Zoro beats them.. they get back stronger by copying techniques...
Zoro's opponent was NOT Mihawk.. get it through your heads... it was Humandrills baboons again and again and again and again... while Mihawk was giving him tips... on the sideline... and sure he might have clashed with Zoro on some occasions like Rayleigh did with Luffy to test a certain skill/technique...
But this training was NOT Zoro vs Mihawk for 2 years

Lol, Zoro ended the humandrils before the training even started. Good luck with that argument.

 

[HA001]

From what ive figured out. Post sabody to dressross was a week give or take a few days.
And we see the jolly farmer monkeys with mihawk reacting to luffys bounty.

So @Sadistic Senpai according to you in that short time frame the monkeys have gone from monsters being able to fight post skip zoro to jolly farmer monkeys. Yeah no.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Wasnt zoro being bugged by perona and building a raft to leave all that time ?

Dude Zoro beat their ass multiple times and every time they get back causing more trouble by being a "copy"

So basically Zoro's training was like fighting "versions" of himself who copy his technqiue... everyday he has to beat "his own techniques" and surpass himself from day before

Mihawk naturally was helping... otherwise he is no teacher... but he wasn't the duel opponent for Zoro for the whole 2 years

Luffy had the 500 animals who were ALREADY stronger than him
Zoro had Baboons who can evolve with you
Sanji had Okama masters who some of them used Haki...

 

[HA001]

Dude Zoro beat their ass multiple times and every time they get back causing more trouble by being a "copy"

So basically Zoro's training was like fighting "versions" of himself who copy his technqiue... everyday he has to beat "his own techniques" and surpass himself from day before

Mihawk naturally was helping... otherwise he is no teacher... but he wasn't the duel opponent for Zoro for the whole 2 years

Luffy had the 500 animals who were ALREADY stronger than him
Zoro had Baboons who can evolve with you
Sanji had Okama masters who some of them used Haki...

Thats not true cause after he beat them they didnt come back stronger to bother him when he asked mihawk train him and in the flashback theres not a monkey to be seen.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

From what ive figured out. Post sabody to dressross was a week give or take a few days.
And we see the jolly farmer monkeys with mihawk reacting to luffys bounty.

So @Sadistic Senpai according to you in that short time frame the monkeys have gone from monsters being able to fight post skip zoro to jolly farmer monkeys. Yeah no.

Well Mihawk was farming... I don't get the fucking point... they are helping Mihawk in farming stuff... are you saying you are retired when you became farmer? LMAO
Are you suggesting that Zoro beat Mihawk already in 2 years and Mihawk now is retired and became a farmer as well?
LMAO
What the fuck is being a farmer and having some fun panels of Mihawk getting along with them and making them farm to do with all of that shit about powerscaling!

You know... in many novels about swordsmen... most swordsmen find some peace in mind in farming... many novels about swordsmanship ends up having some parts of GROWTH of character during his farming period
Just go read "Vagabond" about Miyamoto Musashi... probably the most famous swordsmaster in Japan history who is included in LOTS of manga arts

 

[HA001]

Well Mihawk was farming... I don't get the fucking point... they are helping Mihawk in farming stuff... are you saying you are retired when you became farmer? LMAO
Are you suggesting that Zoro beat Mihawk already in 2 years and Mihawk now is retired and became a farmer as well?
LMAO
What the fuck is being a farmer and having some fun panels of Mihawk getting along with them and making them farm to do with all of that shit about powerscaling!

You know... in many novels about swordsmen... most swordsmen find some peace in mind in farming... many novels about swordsmanship ends up having some parts of GROWTH of character during his farming period
Just go read "Vagabond" about Miyamoto Musashi... probably the most famous swordsmaster in Japan history who is included in LOTS of manga arts

If you had half a brain. Youd realose my point is those monkey could not go from monsters able to fight post skip zoro to jolly farmer monkeys within a week.

 

[nik87]

Apparently humandrils will be a challenge for Mihawk just because they were defeated by him and copied his style.

 

[Zowo]

Apparently humandrils will be a challenge for Mihawk just because they were defeated by him and copied his style.

only mihawk was left
zoro beat the baboons half dead

 

[PrinceKun]

Zoro had the best master possible, a swordsman who is trained by the best swordsman in the world

Ray was a good master for luffy, not the best, but it was enough.
He couldn't help luffy master his fruit,but he taught him how to use haki and luffy had to find a way to master his gears alone

Then we have sanji, ivankov is pitiful compared to ray and mihawk but at least sanji learned how to cook

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

If you had half a brain. Youd realose my point is those monkey could not go from monsters able to fight post skip zoro to jolly farmer monkeys within a week.

They can when they can "copy" what humans do... So coping Mihawk farming is no issue.. specially when Mihawk is the one suprvising them and they were shown to be intimidated by him... so why wouldn't they obey him!!!

Also, don't insult others just because you're losing argument.. it just shows a lack of knowledge and trying to compensate it by insulting others...

 

[Jackteo]

Luffy's training: fighting 500 + massive animals and training with Rayleigh
Sanji's training: fighting 99 Newkama kenpo masters + all the population of Kamabakka Kingdom
Zoro's training: Mihawk

It's clear Luffy's training is a combination of Sanji's and Zoro's, thus it's better.

The second best training was Sanji's

The third was Zoro's. Luckily for him, Shusui saved the day and gave him the possibility to keep up with Sanji

 

[HA001]

They can when they can "copy" what humans do... So coping Mihawk farming is no issue.. specially when Mihawk is the one suprvising them and they were shown to be intimidated by him... so why wouldn't they obey him!!!

Also, don't insult others just because you're losing argument.. it just shows a lack of knowledge and trying to compensate it by insulting others...

Youre the one losing the argument when you act like a dumbass you need to be called out for it.
Why were the monkeys not evolving to fight mihawk ? You know cause even if you beat them they just keep coming back stronger...