Questions & Mysteries Monster Trio Training during Time Skip

[Sadistic Senpai]

Youre the one losing the argument when you act like a dumbass you need to be called out for it.
Why were the monkeys not evolving to fight mihawk ? You know cause even if you beat them they just keep coming back stronger...

Cause they are intimidated by Mihawk's enormous gap in strength... animals can sense danger with their instinct.. it's why when Mihawk when he first appeared on the island and told Zoro that Luffy is dead... those Baboons were frozen... feared him... complete intimidation from his aura and power... while with Zoro... they had no problem facing him.. strong? yeah.. but not to a point to be intimidated by him.. which made them face him and evolve alongside him

And this is my final response to people who have no respect... so whatever you may say next... you can save it... I'm not gonna debate someone who's losing debates then compensate it by insulting...

 

[HA001]

Cause they are intimidated by Mihawk's enormous gap in strength... animals can sense danger with their instinct.. it's why when Mihawk when he first appeared on the island and told Zoro that Luffy is dead... those Baboons were frozen... feared him... complete intimidation from his aura and power... while with Zoro... they had no problem facing him.. strong? yeah.. but not to a point to be intimidated by him.. which made them face him and evolve alongside him

And this is my final response to people who have no respect... so whatever you may say next... you can save it... I'm not gonna debate someone who's losing debates then compensate it by insulting...

Stop crying like a two year old. Youve been destroyed in this argument every single one of your points has been refuted.
A half dead heavily wounded zoro who had just got shusui beats every single monkey.
So theres already a gap between them.
So a healthy zoro who masters shushi would be >>>>>> the monkeys.
The monkeys who also had no one to heal them unlike zoro who had perona.

 

[Bullet]

Luffy has shown the best results
He is better in haki than the other 2 and Learned gear 4th which has 3 forms
Zoro had the second best probably and Sanji the worst

 

[nik87]

I'm not gonna debate someone who's losing debates

We arent the ones who are losing the debate...
Mihawk is an incomparably better teacher because he was teaching how to be a better swordsman while being the best swordsman.
Zoro's sparring partner could have only been Mihawk himself while Luffy's were wild animals.
Luffy's G2/G3 are too weak for NW standards while Zoro has no need to use his EL PU...
There is no case for Luffy's teacher and training being better.

 

[Finalbeta]

Luffy has shown the best results
He is better in haki than the other 2 and Learned gear 4th which has 3 forms
Zoro had the second best probably and Sanji the worst

Yes Luffy may have undergone the best haki training, but Zoro's was not shitty in comparison and he underwent 2 and not just 1.

It's Mihawk training him, the man with the best CoA in the verse.

Yes Rayleigh was the best teacher, but Mihawk the stronger folk.

 

[Garp the Fist]

As with near enough everything, Luffy>Zoro>Sanji.

Don't really buy the "Mihawk is a swordsman like Zoro so would be a better teacher" theory. The two have totally different styles of swordfighting. Mihawk has as much experience with Santoryuu as Rayleigh does with fighting with the Gum Gum fruit- non at all.

 

[HA001]

As with near enough everything, Luffy>Zoro>Sanji.

Don't really buy the "Mihawk is a swordsman like Zoro so would be a better teacher" theory. The two have totally different styles of swordfighting. Mihawk has as much experience with Santoryuu as Rayleigh does with fighting with the Gum Gum fruit- non at all.

? Zoro still has one sword style.
Besides the best growth would be the haki training.
Ray specfically said basics only
We never had mihawk say that.
Ray left 6 months early
We never saw mihawk do that.
Zoros was that extreme he lost an eye.

Why would luffys be better ?

 

[Garp the Fist]

? Zoro still has one sword style.
Besides the best growth would be the haki training.
Ray specfically said basics only
We never had mihawk say that.
Ray left 6 months early
We never saw mihawk do that.
Zoros was that extreme he lost an eye.

Why would luffys be better ?

Zoro barely uses Ittoryu, and even when he does, it still has nothing to do with how Mihawk fights. Zoro uses a katana, Mihawk uses a gargantuan claymore-like thing.

Luffy's is better because Luffy came out stronger than Zoro. Quite simple. Rayleigh leaving early isn't a mark against the training, it's a sign that Luffy is a prodigy. Just like Zoro mastering Enma so fast is a sign that he's brilliant.

 

[HA001]

Zoro barely uses Ittoryu, and even when he does, it still has nothing to do with how Mihawk fights. Zoro uses a katana, Mihawk uses a gargantuan claymore-like thing.

Luffy's is better because Luffy came out stronger than Zoro. Quite simple. Rayleigh leaving early isn't a mark against the training, it's a sign that Luffy is a prodigy. Just like Zoro mastering Enma so fast is a sign that he's brilliant.

Well we are about to find out who came back stronger. Cause luffy had 2 extreme fights and needed another to match kata. If zoros going straight in vs king without a single one its undeniable zoro came back stronger.

 

[BossYimz]

It is hard to judge how much Zoro got out of the training. So far the only thing he has shown for the new world is haki.
Luffy has also been having flashbacks which show what he learnt.

However, what we do know is that Zoro managed to come out of the TS having learnt advanced CoA. He was able to use flow, control haki outside of his body. Luffy only learnt it in Wano.

So based on CoA alone we can conclude Zoro had better training on it than Luffy.
We need to wait more and learn more about Zoro's training.

As for Sanji. He seems to have become a better cook, which was his entire goal of the training. On the side he also got stronger. However, based on his showing in the new world, it is quite clear he didn't get as good of a fighting training as Luffy and Zoro. His training in cooking is what is comparable to Luffy and Zoro's fighting trainings. We saw him bake the cake that completely returned BM's sanity and stop her starvation. He also showed that healing okam food technique in PH when he cooked for everyone

 

[Garp the Fist]

Well we are about to find out who came back stronger. Cause luffy had 2 extreme fights and needed another to match kata. If zoros going straight in vs king without a single one its undeniable zoro came back stronger.

Nope. Zoro himself has said he's stronger because if the Enma training, and he's also said that they gets stronger with each island that passes. Even the fights with Pica and Kamazou will have improved him, despite not being extreme diff.

Current Zoro>start of timeskip Zoro, and we'll sadly never find out by how much.

 

[HA001]

Nope. Zoro himself has said he's stronger because if the Enma training, and he's also said that they gets stronger with each island that passes. Even the fights with Pica and Kamazou will have improved him, despite not being extreme diff.

Current Zoro>start of timeskip Zoro, and we'll sadly never find out by how much.

Lmfao @ShinmenTakezo the magical island power is back.


What has enma improved tell me ?

Youre insinuating zoro has gone from below luffy back then (barely barely commander level) to be able to fight king cause of enma.

 

[L o g i a]

Which of the 3 in the trio had the best teacher to train them during 2 year time skip?

Rayleigh's training with Luffy yielded the best results, so, Rayleigh obviously.

 

[Aknolagon]

Simple Mihawk is stronger than current Rayleigh and both of them shit on ivankov and all his okama.
Luffy's training helped him to go from pacisfista lvl to yc1 lvl.
Zoro's training helped him to play with everyone now and without showing his full power, learnt how to fight against a yonkou lvl everyday. He even lost an eye. Potential yc1 lvl.
Sanji running and trying to beat 99 fodders okama that vergo could have destroy by himself. Ivankov didn't even trained him. He was slightly stronger than vergo lvl at best.


Between luffy and zoro, i would choose zoro because fighting the WSS everyday is insane.

 

[L o g i a]

Simple Mihawk is stronger than current Rayleigh and both of them shit on ivankov and all his okama.
Luffy's training helped him to go from pacisfista lvl to yc1 lvl.
Zoro's training helped him to play with everyone now and without showing his 100%, learn how to fight against a yonkou lvl everyday. He even lost an eye. Potential yc1 lvl.
Sanji running and trying to beat 99 fodders okama that vergo could have destroy by himself. Ivankov didn't even trained him. He was slightly stronger than vergo lvl at best.


Between luffy and zoro, i would choose zoro because fighting the WSS everyday is insane.

It's not that simple

The quality of the teacher does not reflect through their power
Furthermore, their suitability for their training is something to take into account

Like, for Sanji's training he got stronger every time he learned a new recipe - that's literally perfect for him - Ivankov was a great teacher.

End of the day; Luffy's jumped WAY ahead of Zoro and Sanji. This has to be thanks to Rayleigh's training for the most part. He's undoubtedly a better teacher than Mihawk and Ivankov.

This Zoro wank is ridiculous - yonkou level? WTF are you smoking? I'll have some of that!

 

[HA001]

It's not that simple

The quality of the teacher does not reflect through their power
Furthermore, their suitability for their training is something to take into account

Like, for Sanji's training he got stronger every time he learned a new recipe - that's literally perfect for him - Ivankov was a great teacher.

End of the day; Luffy's jumped WAY ahead of Zoro and Sanji. This has to be thanks to Rayleigh's training for the most part. He's undoubtedly a better teacher than Mihawk and Ivankov.

This Zoro wank is ridiculous - yonkou level? WTF are you smoking? I'll have some of that!

Of course mihawk is in the ballpark of the yonkos

 

[Aknolagon]

Like, for Sanji's training he got stronger every time he learned a new recipe - that's literally perfect for him - Ivankov was a great teacher.

This Zoro wank is ridiculous - yonkou level? WTF are you smoking? I'll have some of that!

Oda smokes the same, i can ask him if you want.
Yes sanji's training was the perfect for HIM but was not enough against strong people.

Where did i say zoro is yonkou lvl ? But he was fighting against a guy who is at least yonkou lvl. Your training and experience are another lvl. Rayleigh didn't give to luffy any wound as we know. Zoro is just 21 years old and lost a fucking eye, remember living the rest of your life without an eye just for a training.

It should be between zoro and luffy. IMO zoro that's all.

 

[Monet]

zoro and luffy
,,

sanji was chasing the Okama all TS, he has no time train , chasing Okama is his priority num 1

 

[Fn Lucci]

Ray is responsible for Luffy honing his CoO and CoA. Both developments explicitly flashed back. Right now he's #1.

But Zoro's training hasn't run its course yet. We have no idea how he'll look if he goes against someone at least YC level for more than a quick skirmish.

And yet, Sanji low diffed about three dozen cooks, one of them having a DF that makes whatever food he wants.

Apples to oranges to bananas

 

[Kishido]

Zoro