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Who would win this year (2024/25) ?

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  • Total voters
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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
Steph being the most important piece, including when KD was there, is a no-brainer.
Most plays rely on either Steph shooting himself, he posing the danger due to his abilities or his movement without the ball.
It still does not lead to there being one "bus driver" and everyone else being a passenger, that metaphor does not work.
Steph missing is worse than everyone else missing, but Steph still ain´t winning championships without Klay and Draymond.
On the defensive end Dray and Klay are more relevant than Steph and so forth.
Steph being underrated in almost every sense, i already stated that myself, it still does validate Chuck´s metaphor.

Everything else you mentioned has nothing to do with the point i made.
The point is Barkley is not wrong, you're actually oversimplifying it if anything. Ofcourse basketball is a team sport, no one is playing 1v5 out there, but the point is there is usually 1 player who above all else is make or break for the team, the player which the entire system revolves around, the player which is the focus of opposing defenses, and this is what Barkley was referring to.

Durant was doing layup drills out there during those finals.

He was effectively a role player, an all time great one, but he was simply asked to replace Harrison Barnes, and if KD is getting Harrison Barnes level of attention the outcome was inevitable. Both stats and the eye test back this. KD is too great of a player to be treated like a role player, and that's what he was. You're looking too deep into the semantics of the term "Bus Driver" vs the actual point Barkley was making. It's different when you're the head honcho that defensives are primarily targeting, and we know this because KD has never seen the same success before or after GSW. He's folded multiple times when defenses can lock in on him, this isn't something new.
 
Conference Quarterfinals | 1st Round
EASTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Miami Heat [53-29] VS (8) Atlanta Hawks [43-39]*
Game 1 | Heat 115 Hawks 91 - F

Game 2 | Heat 115 Hawks 105 - F
Game 3 | Heat 110 Hawks 111 - F
Game 4 | Heat 110 Hawks 86 - F
Game 5 | Heat 97 Hawks 94 - F
wins series - 1
(2)
Boston Celtics [51-31] VS (7) Brooklyn Nets [44-38]
Game 1 | Celtics 115 Nets 114 - F

Game 2 | Celtics 114 Nets 107 - F
Game 3 | Celtics 109 Nets 103 - F
Game 4 | Celtics 116 Nets 112 - F
Celtics wins series 4 - 0
(3) Milwaukee Bucks [51-31] VS (6) Chicago Bulls [46-36]
Game 1 | Bucks 93 Bulls 86 - F

Game 2 | Bucks 110 Bulls 114 - F
Game 3 | Bucks 111 Bulls 81 - F
Game 4 | Bucks 119 Bulls 95 - F
Game 5 |
(4)
Philadelphia 76ers [51-31] VS (5) Toronto Raptors [48-34]
Game 1 | 76ers 131 Raptors 111 - F

Game 2 | 76ers 112 Raptors 97 - F
Game 3 | 76ers 104 Raptors 101 - F/OT
Game 4 | 76ers 102 Raptors 110 - F
Game 5 | 76ers 88 Raptors 103 - F
Game 6 |

* RIP Cleveland Cavaliers

WESTERN CONFERENCE
(1) Phoenix Suns [64-18] VS (8) New Orleans Pelicans [36-46]
Game 1 | Suns 110 Pelicans 99 - F

Game 2 | Suns 114 Pelicans 125 - F
Game 3 | Suns 114 Pelicans 111 - F

Game 4 | Suns 103 Pelicans 118 - F
Game 5 | Suns 112 Pelicans 97 - F

Game 6 |
(2)
Memphis Grizzlies [56-26] VS (7) Minnesota Timberwolves [46-36]
Game 1 | Grizzlies 117 Timberwolves
130 - F
Game 2 | Grizzlies 124 Timberwolves 96 - F

Game 3 | Grizzlies 104 Timberwolves 95 - F
Game 4 | Grizzlies 116 Timberwolves 119 - F
Game 5 | Grizzlies 111 Timberwolves 109 - F

Game 6 |
(3)
Golden State Warriors [53-29] VS (6) Denver Nuggets [48-34]
Game 1 | Warriors 123 Nuggets 107 - F

Game 2 | Warriors 126 Nuggets 106 - F
Game 3 | Warriors 118 Nuggets 113 - F
Game 4 | Warriors 121 Nuggets 126 - F
Game 5 |
(4)
Dallas Mavericks [52-30] VS (5) Utah Jazz [49-33]
Game 1 | Mavericks 93 Jazz
99 - F
Game 2 | Mavericks 110 Jazz 106 - F

Game 3 | Mavericks 126 Jazz 118 - F
Game 4 | Mavericks 93 Jazz 100 - F
Game 5 | Mavericks 102 Jazz 77 - F

Game 6 |



Conference Semifinals | 2nd Round
EASTERN CONFERENCE
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WESTERN CONFERENCE
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Conference Finals
EASTERN CONFERENCE
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WESTERN CONFERENCE
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NBA FINALS



AWARDS
MVP -
DPOY - G Marcus Smart (Boston Celtics)
6MOY -
ROTY - F Scottie Barnes (Toronto Raptors)
MIP - G Ja Morant (Memphis Grizzlies)
COTY -


 
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