Why compare it with a Yonko's crew when you can compare it with the Pirate King's crew. Gol D, Silvers, Scopper- They were clearly a trio. Although yes, it has always been Luffy > Zoro > Sanji. None of them are equals.
Sanji blindsided oven when he was focused on Pound entirely, blindside/cheap shots are irrelevant, the attack essentially only made his neck a bit sore, and oven fought through being literally gored.
Sanji is much faster than Zoro, no doubt, Zoro is hyper upper body strength based, while Sanji is low body strength based, Zoro even needed help against pica for this reason (how slow he is), he can move slightly fast (not too fast) in an iaido draw cuz he's essentially rocketing himself forward with his raw upper body strength (which is what he's minmaxed into), but if you have him run around, chopper would outrun him.
Sanji blindsided oven when he was focused on Pound entirely, blindside/cheap shots are irrelevant, the attack essentially only made his neck a bit sore, and oven fought through being literally gored.
Sanji is much faster than Zoro, no doubt, Zoro is hyper upper body strength based, while Sanji is low body strength based, Zoro even needed help against pica for this reason (how slow he is), he can move slightly fast (not too fast) in an iaido draw cuz he's essentially rocketing himself forward with his raw upper body strength (which is what he's minmaxed into), but if you have him run around, chopper would outrun him.
Why compare it with a Yonko's crew when you can compare it with the Pirate King's crew. Gol D, Silvers, Scopper- They were clearly a trio. Although yes, it has always been Luffy > Zoro > Sanji. None of them are equals.
How up your own ass do you have to be to call someone illiterate for not bothering to read the context of probably 5 pages of whiny sanji vs zoro argument.
Get over yourself.
Also I still don't believe you're doing what you're claiming, if anything you're pretending you had a different context to backpedal and save face.
How up your own ass do you have to be to call someone illiterate for not bothering to read the context of probably 5 pages of whiny sanji vs zoro argument.
- Hit Oven before Oven could hit Pound. Whilst Sanji was very far away abd started his attack whilst Oven was just about to punch Pound"
You can't lie when it's literally on the same page for everyone to see.
Just admit you're wrong, and stop whining about me disproving you, I'm not here to make you feel good, I'm not here to protect your feelings and ego, grow up.
Akainu's punch only destroys the part the punch goes through. Mihawk slashed Zoro's entire chest. Remember this is East blue Zoro. What kind of flawed argument is this? Just because Akainu has killed someone means? Zoro also killed someone, is his attack superior to Shanks? Did you forget Mihawk destroyed Krieg's fleet army during a storm?
False. She got pushed off the ship. Exactly Fujitora blocked but still got pushed back. Jinbei didn't do anything to Big Mom either. That is a nerfed BM so your point is moot
He threw liquid. This shows the level of bias in the post. Jinbei threw liquid did no damage...whiles Zoro destroyed Queen's weapon with an actual attack
What does Zoro have to do with this. You claimed Jinbei defeated Moria which was obviously not true...anything else is irrelevant.
Obviously he doesn't have better feats. His feats have been replicated by Luffy and Zoro.
Both have fought top tiers
Both have pushed back top tiers
Both have survived attacks from Top tiers
These are irrefutable facts. But guess who is the character who doesn't have these feats...... Judge's Son Sanji...more proof that he isn't on their level
Bro were talking about Zoro and Jimbei, Im not worried about "Judge's son" he's right where he should be tbh and always has been. Not too strong not too weak, he's just right for the situation. Were gonna have to agree to disagree about this Zoro and Jimbei thing and just wait to see how this arc plays out.
You're missing @Chrono's point. Sanji attacked Oven from a far distance while he's in the middle of attacking someone from a very short distance. It has nothing to do with sneak attacks but Sanji being faster than Oven.
- Hit Oven before Oven could hit Pound. Whilst Sanji was very far away abd started his attack whilst Oven was just about to punch Pound"
You can't lie when it's literally on the same page for everyone to see.
Just admit you're wrong, and stop whining about me disproving you, I'm not here to make you feel good, I'm not here to protect your feelings and ego, grow up.
Me: "Hit Oven before Oven could hit Pound. Whilst Sanji was very far away abd started his attack whilst Oven was just about to punch Pound"
You: "Sanji blindsided oven when he was focused on Pound entirely, blindside/cheap shots are irrelevant, the attack essentially only made his neck a bit sore, and oven fought through being literally gored."
As you can see im talking about Sanji's speed at hitting Oven before Oven could hit Pound. Even though Oven started his attack before Sanji and he was far more closer to his target. This has nothing to do with whether Sanji sneak attacked or not....
Yet you're talking about Sanji "cheap shotting" and "blindsiding" him. Which isnt relevant at all since im not even talking about that.
Im showing how Sanji's attack speed/movement speed far surpasses Oven's attack speed. Whilst you're in your own other realm.
Again stop quoting me if you dont know what you're talking about.
Me: "Hit Oven before Oven could hit Pound. Whilst Sanji was very far away abd started his attack whilst Oven was just about to punch Pound"
You: "Sanji blindsided oven when he was focused on Pound entirely, blindside/cheap shots are irrelevant, the attack essentially only made his neck a bit sore, and oven fought through being literally gored."
As you can see im talking about Sanji's speed at hitting Oven before Oven could hit Pound. Even though Oven started his attack before Sanji and he was far more closer to his target. This has nothing to do with whether Sanji sneak attacked or not....
Yet you're talking about Sanji "cheap shotting" and "blindsiding" him. Which isnt relevant at all since im not even talking about that.
Im showing how Sanji's attack speed/movement speed far surpasses Oven's attack speed. Whilst you're in your own other realm.
Again stop quoting me if you dont know what you're talking about.
You literally cut out the point I was criticizing. You were portraying it as impressive that he cheap shotted him, your reasoning skills can't be this weak that you don't understand how context works, right? You're just lying to be disingenuous and try to win an online argument, right, you don't actually lack this basic understanding, right?
You were directly implying that Sanji was wankable/impressive because he blindsided oven, which is no different than zoro cheap shotting apoo, both were distracted.
Oven isn't fast, he's never been fast, he's got a lot of raw power, his devil fruit is powerful, he's probably got decent buso and basic kenbunshoku, and he is a tank.
I mean I don't think zoro could have cleared that distance before oven attacked, cuz zoro is slow, but oven isn't a speedster by any metric.
I know what yu're talking about, your point is just stupid.
Carrot if she joins will join after wano, so what's even your point?
Also what a non argument "fandom picks next straw hats no(t) Oda"
Like, at that rate, you might as well have no actual deductive reasoning to predict future events and just regurgitate facts like "Zoro defeat Daz Bones" "Luffy punches people", etc.
Sorry that critical thought is too complex for your pea brain, for the rest of us, we'll continue to debate the series and try to predict future events.
Sorry you got triggered by me even mentioning that yamato might join the crew, maybe you should take a break from the internet.
You're missing @Chrono's point. Sanji attacked Oven from a far distance while he's in the middle of attacking someone from a very short distance. It has nothing to do with sneak attacks but Sanji being faster than Oven.
I mean the strawhats don't get character focus after their initial arc outside of sanji anyway, so might as well at least add some new characters to the strawhats to give oda more options with comedy + add some more combatants for the final run.
After Wano SH's will get recognition. Zoro, Sanji, and Jinbe will get recognition as Commanders while the rest of the Straw Hats will get treatment of Vets I suppose? -Chopper to keep the gag with the crew's pet.
What happened to "oda decides", Carrot has not been confirmed as an ally at any point.
Also cute, you literally just went "no u".
I'm not the one getting triggered by the metnion that yamato might become an ally, so me saying you need a break from the internet is warranted, you're just doing it to me to reach for an insult.
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