Current Events New Yonko do not have the same prestige as OG Yonko

#41
Damn you’re really resorting to Ndule talking points?
You started the troll takes. Don't complain now when I use the same level of.
BB took 15 chapters to beat Law.
Tell me more about how Shanks cheap shotted Kid by approaching him head-on from miles away
Kid entirely focused on the fleet, had his big ass gun pointed at them ready to shoot and Shanks intercepted amidst of that when Kid wasn't able to focus on Shanks. Cheap shot.
 
#42
What these guys have said is true. It's about experience and longevity, something I've agreed with ever since the OG Yonko bounties were revealed.

Most people would agree that Shanks is probably stronger than Big Mom, yet she has over 300M on him. Sure, you can maybe say that she has more territory or a bigger crew/fleet (headcanon), but Shanks canonically has the most hyped commanders out of the OG Yonko.

To me, it was pretty evident with the line that Shanks "is the newest/youngest of the 4 Yonko" that it was essentially a justification for his bounty being the lowest.
 
#43
5b: pirate king level
4b: yonko level
3b: admiral level
2b: pre admiral level
1b: yc level+most of the shichibukai
1m-999m: weaker than yc

Law and kid should be in 2b and Buggy is a meme but in general oda has been consistent with bounties and power lvls.

How can Cracker be weaker than Yonko with 860 million when he already is a yonko commander?
 
#44
You started the troll takes. Don't complain now when I use the same level of.



Kid entirely focused on the fleet, had his big ass gun pointed at them ready to shoot and Shanks intercepted amidst of that when Kid wasn't able to focus on Shanks. Cheap shot.
Wow that Shanks is such a meanie. He should have let Kid kill his entire fleet before attacking him
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How can Cracker be weaker than Yonko with 860 million when he already is a yonko commander?
Oda messed up with the SCs bounties. Remember that prior to Wano, he had BB at a measly 2.2B and had to retcon it to 3.99B post-Wano. If Oda wrote their bounties post Wano, the SCs bounties would be ~200M higher than they were
 
#46
Isn’t that the same thing as the new admirals? The OG hits different due to nostalgia and how much they grow on us not to mention we see them in their peak/prime.
 
#47
If Shanks is such a speedster why didn't he blitz Kid before he can even attempt to shoot his crew ?
Because Shanks didn’t care
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Isn’t that the same thing as the new admirals? The OG hits different due to nostalgia and how much they grow on us not to mention we see them in their peak/prime.
Fuji and Ryo have the same bounty as Kizaru
 
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#49
Bounties are a mess, so trying to use them for that purpose doesn’t even work.

Nothing states that the original 4 became Yonko with the bounties they have now or right before they died. Shanks the youngest has been a Yonko for 6 years. The others have been pirates for even longer and racking up bounties since youth.

Blackbeard has been a Yonko for only 2 years, which is 3 times less than Shanks. Yet his bounty is almost the same. Luffy and Buggy have been Yonko for less than a month. Luffy’s bounty is suppressed and should be around Kaido’s.
The difference between Blackbeard’s and Shanks is less than between the latter and Big Mom’s who was 68.

Besides that, it’s all just an improvised mess by Oda. 1.5 billion was supposed to be for the “5th Emperor”
I agree that bounties cannot be used for outright powerscaling.

There is still some logic to it, though.

Shanks has the lowest bounty among the OG group because he is the youngest and wasn't really all that of an active threat. Guy is a party monster, not a monster monster like Blackbeard.
Whitebeard is the highest despite not being a psycho, simply because he was basically an uncrowned Pirate King and an old fossil so he had time to accumulate the bounty.
Big Mom and Kaido are in between. Not as old as Whitebeard and likely not as strong as Shanks, but both were psychos and quite active in the pirating world.

Blackbeard has bounty almost equal to Shanks despite being Yonko for much shorter period of time because he a) is actively hostile and b) has killed Whitebeard in full view of the world (yeah, he needed help to do that, but still...).

Buggy is useless AF, but the Marines don't know that, and his Cross Guild is actively hunting Marines, making him much more of an active threat than the likes of Shanks or Luffy.
 
#50
I agree that bounties cannot be used for outright powerscaling.

There is still some logic to it, though.

Shanks has the lowest bounty among the OG group because he is the youngest and wasn't really all that of an active threat. Guy is a party monster, not a monster monster like Blackbeard.
Whitebeard is the highest despite not being a psycho, simply because he was basically an uncrowned Pirate King and an old fossil so he had time to accumulate the bounty.
Big Mom and Kaido are in between. Not as old as Whitebeard and likely not as strong as Shanks, but both were psychos and quite active in the pirating world.

Blackbeard has bounty almost equal to Shanks despite being Yonko for much shorter period of time because he a) is actively hostile and b) has killed Whitebeard in full view of the world (yeah, he needed help to do that, but still...).

Buggy is useless AF, but the Marines don't know that, and his Cross Guild is actively hunting Marines, making him much more of an active threat than the likes of Shanks or Luffy.
That doesn’t really work since Blackbeard had a measly 2.24 billion after killing WB in full view of the world.
Blackbeard himself is a party monster, and the only thing we see him do since the start of the time skip (attacking Amazon Lily) was after he already had 3.99 billion. It looks like he’s been mostly just partying on Beehive, even telling Moriah to chill out when the latter invaded.

All that aside, the difference in bounty between Shanks and WB (despite decades of time between them) is almost the same as between Luffy’s suppressed bounty and Shank’s after just a month.

If one can accept Shanks being on a similar level to WB based on that, it would be hypocritical to deny the same for Luffy.
 
#51
Shanks's bounty: 4.048 B
Big Mom's bounty: 4.388 B
Kaido's bounty: 4.611 B
Whitebeard's bounty: 5.046 B

Luffy's bounty: 3 B
Buggy's bounty: 3.189 B
Teach's bounty: 3.998 B

Notice something? The OG Yonko are in the 4B bounty range, with WB even reaching 5B due to him being PK level. However, the 3 New Yonko are stuck in the 3B range. The reason for this is that the world does not view these 3 as being on the same level as the OG Yonko. Ask yourself why Oda chose to put Teach's bounty so extremely close to 4B instead of just giving him a flat 4B? It's because Oda wants to tell us that Teach hasn't reach that level yet, but he's almost there. The Yonko are simply just the captains of the 4 strongest pirate crews. They don't all have to be on the same level. If Teach and Luffy both died suddenly, Law and Katakuri would replace them as Yonko despite not being anywhere near as strong
The new Yonko are Yonko because they defeated the old yonko/filled their place in the power system.
The actual Yonko system is dead
 
#52
Lucci and the Admirals seem to underestimate Luffy. They don’t view him as a real Yonko. If Luffy does well against Kizaru, that will all change and he’ll receive a proper bounty this time. I just don’t see the SH’s losing to Kizaru a second time. That and the fact that Morgans is here seems to indicate that the SH’s will successfully repel the WG.
 
#56
I think Law, Moria, and Weevil will join Buggy, boosting his bounty to the 4 billions.

Meanwhile Luffy will reach 4 billion by beating Kizaru
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Anyway, I just remembered, but Shanks himself uses bounty to powerscale Kidd:
He even validates that Kid was as strong as he expected when he used future sight
 
#57
I think Law, Moria, and Weevil will join Buggy, boosting his bounty to the 4 billions.

Meanwhile Luffy will reach 4 billion by beating Kizaru
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He even validates that Kid was as strong as he expected when he used future sight
Don’t see why Law would join up with Buggy instead of Luffy
 
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