I really wonder, if Bonney has that peircing under her eye for a purpose, considering it is exactly at the spot on her face, where the blue scales appeared.
I have one current problem with Kuma or Bonney joining and that is their foe:
Currently, Luffy is set up to fight Kizaru (- no one can tell me that their fight is already over - it does not feel to be over, and considering Kizaru said he only needs a moment to get his things together, the SHPs will either not be able to flee or be in the process of leaving and something unexpected happens for them to decide to stay and fight.)
So, while both Kizaru and Luffy have not reached their limit, yet, the whole setup with Saturn, Bonney/Kuma on the one side of the battle field and Luffy and Kizaru at the other side feels strange. Usually, Luffy fights the opponent, who is one of the main antagonists, which had made the future SH most suffer (Except in Robin's case - in this case Spandam was Lucci's evil prothesis to make the antagonistic side look more bad. He was the like-minded decendant of his father, who was there, when Ohara was destroyed.).
But here, Bonney clearly seems to have a hatred towards Saturn, not Kizaru, indicating that the antagonist, who has hurt her most, is Saturn and not Kizaru. Luffy however is still not done with Kizaru. Therefore Bonney/Kuma becoming a SHP does not fit the current setup of battle.
However, Luffy also still has not come to the point, when his anger makes him gain that resolution and force, he usually expresses just before the pinnacle of every fight with the antagonist. It is that time, when he usually gets angry about what he has whitnessed, sees the hopelessness of his comrade's situation and tries his everything to win the fight to help them. This is also the time, when he screams out the name of his opponent in anger. (And here, we again have another exception - Luffy never called Lucci by his name, like he did with every other opponent and this is exactly why he needs to do it still - Luffy needs to call out Lucci's name - and it will be at a pinnacle of this arc, but not as a foe, but a friend - the 11th SHP.)
One of the cruxes of the flashback is the Celestial Dragons and the other crux is Kuma's fauth in Nika which is underlined by Bonney's internal monologue about Nika.
Bonney has yet to see Nika
Jay Garcia is a CD.
To think the the core focus is Kizaru just kinda ignores the entire damn arc
One of the cruxes of the flashback is the Celestial Dragons and the other crux is Kuma's fauth in Nika which is underlined by Bonney's internal monologue about Nika.
Bonney has yet to see Nika
Jay Garcia is a CD.
To think the the core focus is Kizaru just kinda ignores the entire damn arc
Thing is - We still have not come to the core of the arc. Bonney and Kuma are the side story of the arc and not the main focus. Egghead is revolving around Vegapunk as it's main focus and here we are still missing big chunks of information. The little time-skip Oda inserted for example.
Even if it sounds cocky - every time when Oda was close to reveal something I was curious about, he skipped somehow out on it:
- Shaka's true face, just before Chopper's group was about to head down to the basement - Oda didn't show us how Chopper treated Shaka and needed to see under that mask to propperly start the treatment or even see, if he was still alive (Shaka is Lucci's twin and sould look like him.)
- He did not reveal, how Luffy and Lucci worked together during that time skip of his, because it could potentially reveal the latter's position on the Sunny - strategist or chief of staff or somehting like that. Because, the last thing Lucci told Luffy was, to use his brain. We only see the aftermath of having a great strategist on the team now, as Lucci has used his brain for Luffy: Everyone of the SHPs has been given a task, which everyone now concentrates on, with Luffy even telling Kizaru that it is his mission to keep the admiral occupied.
- Lucci and Kaku having pointy canines, indicating that they are now vampires, since they have been bitten by Stussy: Oda avoids showing us that both have them, with either messy drawing or that inaccurate and small panel of Kaku. I hoped to see Lucci's canines during his fight with Zoro - again, Oda chose to draw him in his awakened form... .
- He even held back in revealing that the WG needs for the Stellar to be alive to not let Punk Records die as it is his brain and would perish with him. With this he hid the fact that Lucci is currently not on the WG's side, as Lucci would then need to not kill the Stellar, but only the Satellites.
- Heck, he even did not reveal that Stussy is not on the SHP's side.
One more week until guardian of wano detity, Oden loving, non abandoning, too afriad to leave wano unproctected, choosen by the fruit, finding something else to do Yamato decides to stay. How you're feeling?
One more week until guardian of wano detity, Oden loving, non abandoning, too afriad to leave wano unproctected, choosen by the fruit, finding something else to do Yamato decides to stay. How you're feeling?
But I did like that Oda gave Carrot at least in the anime a much needed fare well. It really looked a little unfinished in the manga - good that the anime corrected that (I mean that as it comes from heart and do not try to implement something underlying here.).
But I did like that Oda gave Carrot at least in the anime a much needed fare well. It really looked a little unfinished in the manga - good that the anime corrected that (I mean that as it comes from heart and do not try to implement something underlying here.).
Her chances were completely destroyed when we found out she had a completely happy life devoid of conflict, with no connection to any prominent villain. That was back in late 2018.
I beg to differ... I remember your little temper tamdrum about your wife after a few trolls messed with you. Don't think I won't be mean and nasty if you try me, But yeah
:cheers:
Also, not gonna lie, the apology doesn't seem all that genuine when you immediately bring up the time I was suicidal because of my wife being in another country for 2 and a half years as a "gotcha" moment.
Thing is - We still have not come to the core of the arc. Bonney and Kuma are the side story of the arc and not the main focus. Egghead is revolving around Vegapunk as it's main focus and here we are still missing big chunks of information. The little time-skip Oda inserted for example.
Even if it sounds cocky - every time when Oda was close to reveal something I was curious about, he skipped somehow out on it:
- Shaka's true face, just before Chopper's group was about to head down to the basement - Oda didn't show us how Chopper treated Shaka and needed to see under that mask to propperly start the treatment or even see, if he was still alive (Shaka is Lucci's twin and sould look like him.)
- He did not reveal, how Luffy and Lucci worked together during that time skip of his, because it could potentially reveal the latter's position on the Sunny - strategist or chief of staff or somehting like that. Because, the last thing Lucci told Luffy was, to use his brain. We only see the aftermath of having a great strategist on the team now, as Lucci has used his brain for Luffy: Everyone of the SHPs has been given a task, which everyone now concentrates on, with Luffy even telling Kizaru that it is his mission to keep the admiral occupied.
- Lucci and Kaku having pointy canines, indicating that they are now vampires, since they have been bitten by Stussy: Oda avoids showing us that both have them, with either messy drawing or that inaccurate and small panel of Kaku. I hoped to see Lucci's canines during his fight with Zoro - again, Oda chose to draw him in his awakened form... .
- He even held back in revealing that the WG needs for the Stellar to be alive to not let Punk Records die as it is his brain and would perish with him. With this he hid the fact that Lucci is currently not on the WG's side, as Lucci would then need to not kill the Stellar, but only the Satellites.
- Heck, he even did not reveal that Stussy is not on the SHP's side.
You say this and yet, Bonney has the most panel time in this arc except for luffy, more than any of the Vegapunks. And not by a small amount either.
Is Vegapunk a critical part of this arc? Yes
But the core is clearly Bonney and her relationship with Kuma and their relationship to Nika.
edit: Also Lucci explicitly says two Vegapunks are dead, which includes Shaka and there is no indication that Chopper treated Shaka nor that Lucci is lying about who is dead.
Also, not gonna lie, the apology doesn't seem all that genuine when you immediately bring up the time I was suicidal because of my wife being in another country for 2 and a half years as a "gotcha" moment.
That thing about trolling and shitty behavior. It doesn't matter how you get got, the point is to trigger and hurt. You pick at someone at any angle possible for as long as possible til they snap. You should know this. As I learned long ago, everyone has their own problems but I want to move along, with my gun drawn of course.
I think he lets put things into the anime that he did not think of while writing the manga or which he lets add to the anime simply because, if he were to put it into the manga it would add too much volume.
You say this and yet, Bonney has the most panel time in this arc except for luffy, more than any of the Vegapunks. And not by a small amount either.
Is Vegapunk a critical part of this arc? Yes
But the core is clearly Bonney and her relationship with Kuma and their relationship to Nika.
edit: Also Lucci explicitly says two Vegapunks are dead, which includes Shaka and there is no indication that Chopper treated Shaka nor that Lucci is lying about who is dead.
I do not count Bonney and Lucci's panel-time. Both seem to have gotten much of it. If one has gotten a little more or less, I do not care. Both their actions can be described as having a major influence in the current arc.
Only because Bonney's problem is revealed first, does not mean that there is not another problem `hiding´ in that time skip. Chopper's group decided to head down into the basement. And even if Shaka was already dead then, Chopper would have at least looked, if he could have done something for him, if he were to come down there with a man lying on the ground, bleeding profusely. He would have needed to take off that helmet of Shaka to be able to look upon the injury. Oda skipping out on that tells me that he didn't want us to see his face, yet.
Look at how Oda tells us that 2 Vegapunk are `killed´ in that roundabout way of his: Luffy first wanted to tell the WG over the Den Den Mushi how many friends he had with him, only for Robin to interfere. That alone is strange. And we know how honest Luffy is. Meaning: He would have told the WG the true number of allys currently in the Labo-phase with him - he knows exactly how many are still alive. It was Lilith, who cried over Edison and informed us who was supposedly dead: Shaka and Pythagoras. She even made a mistake in adding Edison to the list, hinting that she did get confused with who was supposed to be dead. This roundabout way of telling us, who is dead makes me not believing that Oda has actually killed at least one of them, if not both.
And Lucci even conveying those fabricated numbers to the WG is also a hint that he is not on the WG's side. It makes it even more questionable, if we add the fact that he was with Luffy just before the time skip and also knows exactly how many persons are up there with him, as I do not think they would have split up after defeating S-Bear. He conveyed fake-news about the situation, got rid of Stussy in the process and now that he fights Zoro (without Zoro knowing of his true allegiance or not), he has that one joker on his side - because everyone of the WG thinks that he is on their side, even if he is not.
And the hint supproting that is that it is strange that Oda goes through all that hassle and make Kaku and Lucci join forces with Luffy with the whole One Piece fandom `flippping out´ - if I may use that phrase here as an exxaggeration - only to let Lucci betray the SHP again for Zoro to have a fight, Oda is not even focussing on? It's as if Oda is stalling Zoro and Lucci with it rather than he is concentrating on the progression of said fight.
We definitely need to see what happened during the small time skip. This is why I say that the arc is not finished, yet and we have barely scratched the surface. 😉
well i just hope bonney train brace for impact, all that paneltime but the backstory are focus on kuma rather then her, even kuma have bigger chance then her atm( i dont believe on dadaughter combi cause that mean they gonna reduce kuma to babysit role for bonney everyfight and that a disservice for kuma charachter)
so yeah dont get tempted by notw,repent and rejoin vivi4nakama, believe the promise, believe the fateful return, believe that she will rejoin and kickstart the final arc, may seacat guide you to the right path, the path where she reclaim what rightfully her, the empty seat with a ten/x mark below jollyroger with strawhat.
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