General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
That's what I thought. If you want to understand this, go to the political thread.
Not "righteous", just a bit political.
I could easily act like you guys as a response to your invectives and be mean and target each and everyone of you the way you are targetting me and enlightening all your weird behaviors to humiliate you and therefore act like you in the wind of toxicity... we would have a blast and it would be really easy as you are all open books.
But I hope for this forum to be a little bit less toxic and a little bit more positive so there is no point in doing that. So instead, I question all the behaviors here through a political lens. This helps me understand why some people are acting the way they do and reply in consequence.
There is no point in defending Carrot anymore. We passed that point, she is not in the story anymore.
So now, what I want to highlight are the reason behind the hatred and the tools used to attack her and to deligitimize her place in the strawhat crew.
If you want, you can ignore me mate. I'm not forcing anyone to reply to me.
Why can't you just ignore me mate ? Why is this so hard for you guys ?
I'm only posting one to three post per hours, I'm not the reason why the number of pages is increasing here...
Remember what I said here:
We are talking about strawhat candidate and the debate around them and I'm explaining that we must be careful not to dehumanize a character when we try to deligitimize their place as a future strawhat.
You are therefore legitimizing this "apolitical" power structure by refusing to accept the politization of debate that has EVERYTHING to do with the title and purpose of the thread.
I ask you guys to respect Carrot and any non human characters that could be legitimate to a strawhat place. Isn't it so hard to accept ?
Not "righteous", just a bit political.
I could easily act like you guys as a response to your invectives and be mean and target each and everyone of you the way you are targetting me and enlightening all your weird behaviors to humiliate you and therefore act like you in the wind of toxicity... we would have a blast and it would be really easy as you are all open books.
But I hope for this forum to be a little bit less toxic and a little bit more positive so there is no point in doing that. So instead, I question all the behaviors here through a political lens. This helps me understand why some people are acting the way they do and reply in consequence.
There is no point in defending Carrot anymore. We passed that point, she is not in the story anymore.
So now, what I want to highlight are the reason behind the hatred and the tools used to attack her and to deligitimize her place in the strawhat crew.
If you want, you can ignore me mate. I'm not forcing anyone to reply to me.
Why can't you just ignore me mate ? Why is this so hard for you guys ?
I'm only posting one to three post per hours, I'm not the reason why the number of pages is increasing here...
Remember what I said here:
We are talking about strawhat candidate and the debate around them and I'm explaining that we must be careful not to dehumanize a character when we try to deligitimize their place as a future strawhat.
You are therefore legitimizing this "apolitical" power structure by refusing to accept the politization of debate that has EVERYTHING to do with the title and purpose of the thread.
I ask you guys to respect Carrot and any non human characters that could be legitimate to a strawhat place. Isn't it so hard to accept ?
Not more than us. We are animals too. Technically we are ALL animals, minks included.
The point is that words have a CONTEXTUAL MEANING. And calling a mink an animal to attack one of them is a form a dehumanization just like calling a human a animal is ALSO a form of dehumanization.
Again, words have contextual meaning.
No, mostly bs.
So Bepo :
- Don't talk ?
- Don't think ?
- Don't feel ?
- Doesn't stand ?
- Does wear cloth ?
- Doesn't walk on his feets ?
Etc.
Hm ? "No humanoid features" ?
You don't understand what institutional/systemic racism is mate ?
If not, I won't explain it here. It would be a waste of time for both of us.
Have attribute of =/= Are
The minks are just as much as animals as other humans.
If you don't understand that point, I won't explain it to you. Its a waste of time. Plus, this would need a long political explaination and Mods here are completely freaking out when debate outside of the political thread becomes a little bit too much political. So lets leave it as that.
Yes indeed, there was also sexist reasons. Now, I'm talking about a specific subject here.
Indeed. But what you don't understand is that you are forcing me to give you that definition since you don't accept the mink as ust "the minks". In the context of a description compared to our world : Humanoid don't mean human, it means human like. The difference is that I don't attack Mink here contrary to other people. I use that specifically to describe further a race that you still want to consider as animals when they are not.
Again, the minks are the minks, that's what I said to you. You don't need to add the term "animals" or me "humanoid with animals attribute". The minks are the minks. Just like the fishmen are the fishmen.
Animal are not "inferior". The point is that using the word "animal" as a way to attack a character or a person that is dehumanizing. Don't make me quote actual people in real life and real life event to make you understand that... Again, words have contextual meanings. Linguistic 101.
You have made my point for me bro, you did not help yourself..
It matters when we analyse the behavior that consist in dehumanizing said characters to attack and degelitimize them.
I completely agree. That's what any proper individual should do.
The mink are the minks, there are no reason to call them "animals".
Dude.. if you want you can imagine this case:
Imagine that one day a space ship lands on earth and the extraterrestrial beings happens to look like cat standing up. Would you dare to call them "animals" ?
Or would you call them by he name of their race ?
The problem here is you thinking that the link between the interactions of the reality and the fictionnal its not an important topic.
#woof...
Not necessaraly. If you call mink and other races as animals to describe their biological nature (as we are all animals) then no, there is nothing inherently wrong with it.
The problem comes with the context. And its the context that is important here:
If you essentialize a mink or a fishmen to their animal attribute and nothing more to attack them or delegitimize them, then yes, its called "dehumanization" and in the context of One Piece, its inherently racist. Just like calling human "animals" to justify genocide or war crime is a dehumanization process and inherently racist when its aimed at racialized people in real life.
sure
The point is that words have a CONTEXTUAL MEANING. And calling a mink an animal to attack one of them is a form a dehumanization just like calling a human a animal is ALSO a form of dehumanization.
Again, words have contextual meaning.
No, mostly bs.
So Bepo :
- Don't talk ?
- Don't think ?
- Don't feel ?
- Doesn't stand ?
- Does wear cloth ?
- Doesn't walk on his feets ?
Etc.
Hm ? "No humanoid features" ?
You don't understand what institutional/systemic racism is mate ?
If not, I won't explain it here. It would be a waste of time for both of us.
Have attribute of =/= Are
The minks are just as much as animals as other humans.
If you don't understand that point, I won't explain it to you. Its a waste of time. Plus, this would need a long political explaination and Mods here are completely freaking out when debate outside of the political thread becomes a little bit too much political. So lets leave it as that.
Yes indeed, there was also sexist reasons. Now, I'm talking about a specific subject here.
Indeed. But what you don't understand is that you are forcing me to give you that definition since you don't accept the mink as ust "the minks". In the context of a description compared to our world : Humanoid don't mean human, it means human like. The difference is that I don't attack Mink here contrary to other people. I use that specifically to describe further a race that you still want to consider as animals when they are not.
Again, the minks are the minks, that's what I said to you. You don't need to add the term "animals" or me "humanoid with animals attribute". The minks are the minks. Just like the fishmen are the fishmen.
Animal are not "inferior". The point is that using the word "animal" as a way to attack a character or a person that is dehumanizing. Don't make me quote actual people in real life and real life event to make you understand that... Again, words have contextual meanings. Linguistic 101.
You have made my point for me bro, you did not help yourself..
It matters when we analyse the behavior that consist in dehumanizing said characters to attack and degelitimize them.
I completely agree. That's what any proper individual should do.
The mink are the minks, there are no reason to call them "animals".
Dude.. if you want you can imagine this case:
Imagine that one day a space ship lands on earth and the extraterrestrial beings happens to look like cat standing up. Would you dare to call them "animals" ?
Or would you call them by he name of their race ?
The problem here is you thinking that the link between the interactions of the reality and the fictionnal its not an important topic.
#woof...
Not necessaraly. If you call mink and other races as animals to describe their biological nature (as we are all animals) then no, there is nothing inherently wrong with it.
The problem comes with the context. And its the context that is important here:
If you essentialize a mink or a fishmen to their animal attribute and nothing more to attack them or delegitimize them, then yes, its called "dehumanization" and in the context of One Piece, its inherently racist. Just like calling human "animals" to justify genocide or war crime is a dehumanization process and inherently racist when its aimed at racialized people in real life.
sure
It's too late i am now racist against Minks
Also it's it's not a humanoid characteristic to use clothes if non-humans in One piece use clothes, you still conflating what gives them value, it's not that they're humanoids, it's because they have human like inteligence and can reason
Correct opinion
I dunno about that, they're more like partially anthropomorphised animals, most of them mostly look like animals that happen to be standing upright and given human emotions/mannerisms. There's a lot of credence to what Warback is saying in this case imo
That's what I thought. If you want to understand this, go to the political thread.
Not "righteous", just a bit political.
I could easily act like you guys as a response to your invectives and be mean and target each and everyone of you the way you are targetting me and enlightening all your weird behaviors to humiliate you and therefore act like you in the wind of toxicity... we would have a blast and it would be really easy as you are all open books.
But I hope for this forum to be a little bit less toxic and a little bit more positive so there is no point in doing that. So instead, I question all the behaviors here through a political lens. This helps me understand why some people are acting the way they do and reply in consequence.
There is no point in defending Carrot anymore. We passed that point, she is not in the story anymore.
So now, what I want to highlight are the reason behind the hatred and the tools used to attack her and to deligitimize her place in the strawhat crew.
If you want, you can ignore me mate. I'm not forcing anyone to reply to me.
Why can't you just ignore me mate ? Why is this so hard for you guys ?
I'm only posting one to three post per hours, I'm not the reason why the number of pages is increasing here...
Remember what I said here:
We are talking about strawhat candidate and the debate around them and I'm explaining that we must be careful not to dehumanize a character when we try to deligitimize their place as a future strawhat.
You are therefore legitimizing this "apolitical" power structure by refusing to accept the politization of debate that has EVERYTHING to do with the title and purpose of the thread.
I ask you guys to respect Carrot and any non human characters that could be legitimate to a strawhat place. Isn't it so hard to accept ?
Not "righteous", just a bit political.
I could easily act like you guys as a response to your invectives and be mean and target each and everyone of you the way you are targetting me and enlightening all your weird behaviors to humiliate you and therefore act like you in the wind of toxicity... we would have a blast and it would be really easy as you are all open books.
But I hope for this forum to be a little bit less toxic and a little bit more positive so there is no point in doing that. So instead, I question all the behaviors here through a political lens. This helps me understand why some people are acting the way they do and reply in consequence.
There is no point in defending Carrot anymore. We passed that point, she is not in the story anymore.
So now, what I want to highlight are the reason behind the hatred and the tools used to attack her and to deligitimize her place in the strawhat crew.
If you want, you can ignore me mate. I'm not forcing anyone to reply to me.
Why can't you just ignore me mate ? Why is this so hard for you guys ?
I'm only posting one to three post per hours, I'm not the reason why the number of pages is increasing here...
Remember what I said here:
We are talking about strawhat candidate and the debate around them and I'm explaining that we must be careful not to dehumanize a character when we try to deligitimize their place as a future strawhat.
You are therefore legitimizing this "apolitical" power structure by refusing to accept the politization of debate that has EVERYTHING to do with the title and purpose of the thread.
I ask you guys to respect Carrot and any non human characters that could be legitimate to a strawhat place. Isn't it so hard to accept ?
She eats grass cuz she's a rabbit dumbass 😭 and her species serve as food to us
True lol. Infact her being a rabbit animal just added more ammunition for people to dog on her
Damn, you spitting facts. Hollup tho how's raccoon pussy like tho? Human version or normal raccoon version or mink version?
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True lol. Infact her being a rabbit animal just added more ammunition for people to dog on her
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This is all a low key to excuse bestiality and to make it morally aceptable to clap Tristan 
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You can call them anything you want not my concern lol
But manga states minks are humanoid with animals attributes.
Manga says humans are lesser minks. That's the explanation we got so that's how we have to interpret it until oda change it
But manga states minks are humanoid with animals attributes.
Manga says humans are lesser minks. That's the explanation we got so that's how we have to interpret it until oda change it
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Who? Chopper?
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