General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Naomi]

Loki heard rocks dream to take down the scum celestial dragon and the wg. Explains why he knows about what the celestial do. As he calls them scum. He probably heard more from rocks.


This is Luffy end goal to take down the enemy rocks wanted gone and to end wg/celestial dragons. Blackbeard is not the one, as stated by whitebeard who was friends with rock. Also Blackbeard killed his father friend..


So Loki going with luffy. 100%

Whitebeard saying your not the one mention to blackbeard.. means taking on rocks will/goal to defeat imu/tear down the corruption in the wg.

 

[Uncle Van]

Disingenuous is saying the mf doing 5 year Big Mom feats as a baby and tanking a fall that adult Harjurdin admitted would have killed him, then proceeding to do the Kaido suicide feat as a child isn't more impressive than 60% of the Straw Hats weak and mid trio's entire career. Then you compare him to that bum Jinbei who's claim to fame was tying with Ace as a rookie, relegated to Walmart Rob Lucci in Wano, and now has been demoted to basically serving as a UPS delivery man.

Loki just on portrayal alone is miles above Jinbei and it's kinda disrespectful to say such a powerful entity should waste his potential with the Straw Hat bums who in their first big arc as an Emperor Crew couldn't even function properly as one. And need to get saved by plot even as a fucking Yonko crew.

Loki is a clear cut major ally for the final war, but not a SH. It does a great disservice to his character to downgrade him to a mere subordinate, look what happened to Jinbei. Why do people even want that?

And the wings will always be the #2 and #3 of the crew, you put Loki on the crew and then you have to elevate them to almost Yonko level, now tell me this makes sense. Tell me Zoro beats Mihawk right now lol, tell me you aren't indirectly upscaling tf out of fucking Shiryu and Laffite (or whoever tf fights Sanji).

Same song and dance every arc. People were so sure over Yamato and this feels exactly like that.

But cope on my brothers and sisters cause me and @Tyki_Mikk have already won this bet

Loki by portrayal is above Old Gaban.
-It took Shanks to bring down Loki when Gaban was there
- Gaban believes no one in Elbaph could stop Loki until he was convinced of Luffy's strength
- Gaban believes Loki's strength is a great replacement for him

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Loki by portrayal is above Old Gaban.
-It Shanks to bring down Loki when Gaban was there
- Gaban believes no one in Elbaph could stop Loki until he was convinced of Luffy's strength
- Gaban believes Loki's strength is a great replacement for him

Yep.

Old Gaban is comparable to Old Rayleigh who even in his old age stalled Kizaru. And yet Gaban couldn't deal with Loki. Insanity people think Zoro and Sanji surpass him right now when he literally bullied Zoro and Luffy together

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Btw. Putting Loki on the crew doesn't just massively upscale Shiryu and Laffite, but you're massively upscaling SanJuan Wolf to at least YC 1+ - low admiral level.

If you think freaking SanJuan is that strong, you're either the greatest troll in history or the greatest Blackbeard Pirate wanker that would even make @Blackbeard himself blush lmfao

 

[Naomi]

Btw. Putting Loki on the crew doesn't just massively upscale Shiryu and Laffite, but you're massively upscaling SanJuan Wolf to at least YC 1+ - low admiral level.

If you think freaking SanJuan is that strong, you're either the greatest troll in history or the greatest Blackbeard Pirate wanker that would even make @Blackbeard himself blush lmfao

I guess by your logic, garp is weakling low admiral level.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

I guess by your logic, garp is weakling low admiral level.

Why did you just post SanJuan getting negged as a gacha point?

You just proved Loki one shots his bum ass lmao

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Btw. Putting Loki on the crew doesn't just massively upscale Shiryu and Laffite, but you're massively upscaling SanJuan Wolf to at least YC 1+ - low admiral level.

None YC1+ giving Loki anything beyond low diff(except Benn Beckman and maybe Shiryuu) and everyone of them would lose hard.
The only member in Teach crew who would be able to fight someone like Loki, is Kuzan...
And I doubt Oda would use Kuzan like that.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

None YC1+ giving Loki anything beyond low diff(except Benn Beckman and maybe Shiryuu) and everyone of them would lose hard.

B-but he's supposed to fight SanJuan to an extreme diff

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Hi


Won't join



Bye

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

B-but he's supposed to fight SanJuan to an extreme diff

Forget SanJuan, even Shiryuu would get clapped...

And that guy is Zoro supposed opponent in the fight against Teach crew.
A guy who come 1-3 arcs later as Zoro opponent, would get clapped by Loki...

Do people get the dimension of powergap once Loki join?

 

[Uncle Van]

Its always funny how incredibly fake these nakama arguments and supporters are. They get a candidate and tell you how obvious it is they are joining and that you are stupid for denying the facts. The characters dont join, and they suddenly admit to the flaws they have.

They get a new candidate and be all like "the last candidate didnt join because of this, which isn't present with the current candidate! They are joining so cope!"

Repeat that sequence for about 16 candidates in a row for almost 12 years lol

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Forget SanJuan, even Shiryuu would get clapped...

And that guy is Zoro supposed opponent in the fight against Teach crew.
A guy who come 1-3 arcs later as Zoro opponent, would get clapped by Loki...

Do people get the dimension of powergap once Loki join?

They like to pretend power levels don't matter and only narrative does. Which just doesn't work in the same arc where Oda has repeatedly doubled down on the importance of the Wings. They will always be #2 and #3 of the crew. You can't do that with Loki, because it screws everything up and you have to upscale the wings opponents to a trolley degree. And whoever has the misfortune of fighting Loki.

 

[Peroroncino]

Shame that Logiko isn't here to tell us why Loki is totally joining

 

[Uncle Van]

They like to pretend power levels don't matter and only narrative does. Which just doesn't work in the same arc where Oda has repeatedly doubled down on the importance of the Wings. They will always be #2 and #3 of the crew. You can't do that with Loki, because it screws everything up and you have to upscale the wings opponents to a trolley degree. And whoever has the misfortune of fighting Loki.

They already know Loki's strength is a problem. Why else do you think they keep switching up the argument and making compromises? Shit like "Loki could be weaker than Sanji right now because of his injuries, so by the time Loki regains his full strength, Sanji would be stronger overall so problem solved!"

 

[Naomi]

Why did you just post SanJuan getting negged as a gacha point?

You just proved Loki one shots his bum ass lmao

Garp was only able to send him flying, with a bump on his forehead. sanjuan not defeated fully. Also garp is a monster.

Even black beard father went around looking for the strongest team mates on his crew to defeat imu,

So loki joining luffy is upgrade help to defeat imu, just like rocks was trying to do recruiting the strong only.

he couldn't recruit harald.
but luffy will recruit loki.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I guess by your logic, garp is weakling low admiral level.

Sanjuan who got one shot by 3 Billion Garp is giving 2.6 Billion Berry Loki a serious fight?

 

[Uncle Van]

The anime has Garp without haki, one shotting Wolf. How exactly is Loki needed to beat someone with such poor endurance? Is Loki actually super weak despite his top tier portrayal? Loki is joining the crew just so he could one shot guy that Jinbe could quickly take down via anime feats? Lol

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Garp was only able to send him flying, with a bump on his forehead. sanjuan not defeated fully.

SanJuan was put out of commission. He lost

garp is a monster.

Of course. And so is Loki lol

So loki joining luffy is upgrade help to defeat imu, just like rocks was trying to do recruiting the strong only.

That isn't an upgrade, that's a cheat code. 60% of the Straw Hats can't even use basic haki, and Usopp forgot his on Dressrosa

With Loki they don't even need to get stronger cause he just negs everybody for them.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Loki4Blackbeard
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Someone...Loki met that someone and he's wearing a strawhat.
He'll have to realize that Blackbeard is not the one who deserves his reverence once he learns BB(and perhaps including Xebec's soul) wants to be the next Imu and run the new world government

Vivi won’t join either. She’ll be used as a hostage against Imu

Vivi is already a member.
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Vivi is already a member.
Vivi is already a member.
Vivi is already a member.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Someone...Loki met that someone and he's wearing a strawhat.
He'll have to realize that Blackbeard is not the one who deserves his reverence once he learns BB(and perhaps including Xebec's soul) wants to be the next Imu and run the new world government

I'm half trolling with the Blackbeard thing.

More probable than joining Luffy