General & Others Nobody in Egghead was taken down

[Albino 👑]

I feel like it should be pretty obvious but egghead was an escape arc. None of the fights were supposed to have a full on winner and loser

1. The seraphim were not taken down they were only captured because the crew couldn’t straight up defeat them despite being capable of overwhelming them
2. Lucci was not taken down he was eventually overwhelmed by luffy and then zoro at different points but all in all man is still standing and conscious
3. Kizaru was not taken down he was also overwhelmed at times by luffy + his own emotions but again he’s still standing and conscious
4. The gorosei is the same exact situation. They were not taken down just stalled, overwhelmed, and then eventually forced off the island

At the same time
Yes the strawhats were obviously trying in their fights. The goal not being to defeat their opponents but to end the fights as soon as possible in order to escape. Especially luffy and zoro since they had the most fights

Against the seraphim they were clearly trying they even fought them 4v2 with Lucci and kaku because they knew they didn’t have time to waste. Due to their lunarian hax they couldn’t do anything and were just wasting stamina till they bubbled them

Against kizaru and Lucci they almost instantly started using their strongest forms off the bat aka g4/5 and overflowing armament. Tho because kizaru and Lucci forced them into it but because again they needed to hurry up and escape

Something they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances with how draining they can be for them. At the same time it’s also a flex for kizaru and Lucci for being able to outlast and survive them. Tho in luffy’s case he could have had potentially escaped after he gassed himself and temporarily knocked out kizaru if it wasn’t for Saturn

And again with the gorosei luffy was obviously trying his hardest but to escape from them not defeat them all

 

[MUUGEN]

if you get hit in the head and youre out for 10m you got taken down, if you get flattened into a literal pancake and out for th remainder of the fight you got taken out.


if you lost in a 1on1 and were out for 10+ min you were taken down, if you were left unable to move after a fight standing or not you were taken out of the fight thus being taken down....

zoro was toying with Lucci and then evntually took him out with one named move while Lucci tried to sneak speed blitz him being outsepeed blitzed by zoro...

luffy also stated he needs to stop playing and end kizaru and then he did so in a single punch.. any thing kizaru landed on luffy didnt effect him as much as the barrier did.... luffy has gone g4/5 for less...

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Gucci agenda going strong

 

[Albino 👑]

if you get hit in the head and youre out for 10m you got taken down, if you get flattened into a literal pancake and out for th remainder of the fight you got taken out.


if you lost in a 1on1 and were out for 10+ min you were taken down, if you were left unable to move after a fight standing or not you were taken out of the fight thus being taken down....

zoro was toying with Lucci and then evntually took him out with one named move while Lucci tried to sneak speed blitz him being outsepeed blitzed by zoro...

luffy also stated he needs to stop playing and end kizaru and then he did so in a single punch.. any thing kizaru landed on luffy didnt effect him as much as the barrier did.... luffy has gone g4/5 for less...

Being overwhelmed =/= being taken down and defeated
Kizaru and Lucci are still up and conscious

Neither luffy or zoro were playing around. They knew how serious the situation was and how they needed to escape as soon as possible

Being stronger doesn’t mean they took them out

 

[MUUGEN]

Being overwhelmed =/= being taken down and defeated
Kizaru and Lucci are still up and conscious

Neither luffy or zoro were playing around. They knew how serious the situation was and how they needed to escape as soon as possible

Being stronger doesn’t mean they took them out

if they were taken out of the fight they were taken down idk how that isnt more apparent to you albino

 

[odaisalwaysright]

if you cannot move for several minutes then you have lost the fight, cuz the oppenent can easily finish you,
if kizaru was against big mom or kaido they would have finished him on the ground and no luck on time limit cuz of toying
same for zoro vs lucci, jinbei had mercy on him and sweeped him away from zoro.
saturn lost to luffy if it were not for that regen mystic imu ability we still not know of.
its not a take down arc, those people still have things to do so, its not time to ko them. but they still lost their fights.

 

[zenox]

Hahahah
All of this bullshit just to say zoro didn’t fold lucci
It’s ok to just take the L than make 20 threads abt it

 

[Albino 👑]

if they were taken out of the fight they were taken down idk how that isnt more apparent to you albino

if you cannot move for several minutes then you have lost the fight, cuz the oppenent can easily finish you,
if kizaru was against big mom or kaido they would have finished him on the ground and no luck on time limit cuz of toying
same for zoro vs lucci, jinbei had mercy on him and sweeped him away from zoro.
saturn lost to luffy if it were not for that regen mystic imu ability we still not know of.
its not a take down arc, those people still have things to do so, its not time to ko them. but they still lost their fights.

Luffy was on the ground paralyzed longer than kizaru was the first time he ran out of g5. Kizaru was pretending he couldn’t have moved until Luffy and the crew left

You can say they got overwhelmed but you can’t say any of them were taken out

 

[odaisalwaysright]

Luffy was on the ground paralyzed longer than kizaru was the first time he ran out of g5. Kizaru was pretending he couldn’t have moved until Luffy and the crew left

You can say they got overwhelmed but you can’t say any of them were taken out

not cuz of any hit, luffy did that to himself. if kaido, shanks, big mom put you down for 10 minutes they ll finish you on the ground

 

[Albino 👑]

not cuz of any hit, luffy did that to himself. if kaido, shanks, big mom put you down for 10 minutes they ll finish you on the ground

If they put you on the ground for 10 minutes but they’re unable to move more 11 minutes because of it they aren’t going to do anything

Yes luffy is stronger than kizaru and under normal circumstances when he wasn’t on a time limit where he was prioritizing escaping and kizaru wasn’t focusing more on vegapunk then yeah the fight would 100% go differently
At the same time the content of the fight still matters whether or not it makes Luffy or kizaru look better or worse

 

[gz89]

Conor didn't lose here he's still conscious. Khabib was just trying to get away.

 

[Dragon777]

not cuz of any hit, luffy did that to himself. if kaido, shanks, big mom put you down for 10 minutes they ll finish you on the ground

And that's..wow, has zero relevance!
If you are down, are down, be it because you were hit or didn't manage to finish your opponent in the time limit.

That goes for Luffy as for anyone.
If Goku uses Kaioken and doesn't manage to finish his opponent before the countereffets kick in, it's Goku's fault.

 

[nik87]

Hahahah
All of this bullshit just to say zoro didn’t fold lucci
It’s ok to just take the L than make 20 threads abt it

Nittoryu Zoro outperforming Sun God is not easy to digest, let him cope.

 

[odaisalwaysright]

And that's..wow, has zero relevance!
If you are down, are down, be it because you were hit or didn't manage to finish your opponent in the time limit.

That goes for Luffy as for anyone.
If Goku uses Kaioken and doesn't manage to finish his opponent before the countereffets kick in, it's Goku's fault.

if kizaru can resist to a luffy wo wants to take him down and get up after a lot of hits until g5 goes down, there i agree with you
but kizaru fell after 1 medium acoc punch in the face and one smash pizza hit, you expect him to outlast g5 ?

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If they put you on the ground for 10 minutes but they’re unable to move more 11 minutes because of it they aren’t going to do anything

Yes luffy is stronger than kizaru and under normal circumstances when he wasn’t on a time limit where he was prioritizing escaping and kizaru wasn’t focusing more on vegapunk then yeah the fight would 100% go differently
At the same time the content of the fight still matters whether or not it makes Luffy or kizaru look better or worse

i fking dont care, the important thing here is that kizaru took a fking medium acoc hit in the face and he cannot get up after10 mins, a relevant oppenent for luffy is like this ? kaido or big mom are like this?

 

[Albino 👑]

if kizaru can resist to a luffy wo wants to take him down and get up after a lot of hits until g5 goes down, there i agree with you
but kizaru fell after 1 medium acoc punch in the face and one smash pizza hit, you expect him to outlast g5 ?

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i fking dont care, the important thing here is that kizaru took a fking medium acoc hit in the face and he cannot get up after10 mins, a relevant oppenent for luffy is like this ? kaido or big mom are like this?

You not fucking caring doesn’t make it any less relevant

Knocking someone out for 10 minutes but you yourself getting gassed out for even longer matters lol

 

[Sir Yasheen]

if kizaru can resist to a luffy wo wants to take him down and get up after a lot of hits until g5 goes down, there i agree with you
but kizaru fell after 1 medium acoc punch in the face and one smash pizza hit, you expect him to outlast g5 ?

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i fking dont care, the important thing here is that kizaru took a fking medium acoc hit in the face and he cannot get up after10 mins, a relevant oppenent for luffy is like this ? kaido or big mom are like this?

Kizaru did outlast g5 and got up well before Luffy who needed Van Augur to deliver him food and then take him to a food machine to give Luffy a chance

 

[Dragon777]

if kizaru can resist to a luffy wo wants to take him down and get up after a lot of hits until g5 goes down, there i agree with you
but kizaru fell after 1 medium acoc punch in the face and one smash pizza hit, you expect him to outlast g5 ?

And if Kizaru had used someting more than 90% no named finger lasers, almost no named moves, barely used the sword and wasn't even super conflicted, I would have agreed too.

So, overall, that's Is what happened: they barely used their full power and still there was a double KO in the end. And Kizaru even got up before Luffy.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

if you get hit in the head and youre out for 10m you got taken down, if you get flattened into a literal pancake and out for th remainder of the fight you got taken out.


if you lost in a 1on1 and were out for 10+ min you were taken down, if you were left unable to move after a fight standing or not you were taken out of the fight thus being taken down....

zoro was toying with Lucci and then evntually took him out with one named move while Lucci tried to sneak speed blitz him being outsepeed blitzed by zoro...

luffy also stated he needs to stop playing and end kizaru and then he did so in a single punch.. any thing kizaru landed on luffy didnt effect him as much as the barrier did.... luffy has gone g4/5 for less...

Then let's talk about the condom who was down for even longer and needed help to get back on his feet.

 

[Rambles]

I feel like it should be pretty obvious but egghead was an escape arc. None of the fights were supposed to have a full on winner and loser

1. The seraphim were not taken down they were only captured because the crew couldn’t straight up defeat them despite being capable of overwhelming them
2. Lucci was not taken down he was eventually overwhelmed by luffy and then zoro at different points but all in all man is still standing and conscious
3. Kizaru was not taken down he was also overwhelmed at times by luffy + his own emotions but again he’s still standing and conscious
4. The gorosei is the same exact situation. They were not taken down just stalled, overwhelmed, and then eventually forced off the island

At the same time
Yes the strawhats were obviously trying in their fights. The goal not being to defeat their opponents but to end the fights as soon as possible in order to escape. Especially luffy and zoro since they had the most fights

Against the seraphim they were clearly trying they even fought them 4v2 with Lucci and kaku because they knew they didn’t have time to waste. Due to their lunarian hax they couldn’t do anything and were just wasting stamina till they bubbled them

Against kizaru and Lucci they almost instantly started using their strongest forms off the bat aka g4/5 and overflowing armament. Tho because kizaru and Lucci forced them into it but because again they needed to hurry up and escape

Something they wouldn’t do under normal circumstances with how draining they can be for them. At the same time it’s also a flex for kizaru and Lucci for being able to outlast and survive them. Tho in luffy’s case he could have had potentially escaped after he gassed himself and temporarily knocked out kizaru if it wasn’t for Saturn

And again with the gorosei luffy was obviously trying his hardest but to escape from them not defeat them all

It is telling that up until now, no one was taken down. But Egghead is still not over... .

Kizaru will be taken down for sure.

 

[dirtyLarry]

If you start thinking about it, this arc becomes a real disappointment in terms of consequences (or lack thereof) once again.

We got something even bigger than the buster call with God knows how many marines and vice admirals, a literal admiral himself, five freakin Gorosei, CP0 and seraphim vs the Vegapunks, seabeasts, Pacifista, Kuma and the SHs.

Yet there are no casualties - not a single one on either side (and no, Vegapunk doesn't count since he planned it and is technically still alive, like Lillith confirmed).

This lack of consequences even in such a situation is just mindboggling and the reason why any tension has been gone in the OP manga for a long time now.

It's ridiculous when you think about it, really.

Just imagine sth like the Chimera Ant Palace Invasion in HxH and every single one of the characters (Meruem, Komogi, Netero, Pitou, Pouf, Youpi, Gon etc.) makes it out alive and without any major consequences.

People would rightfully shittalk the hell out of it, but somehow everyone has accepted it when it comes to One Piece.