General & Others None of the Monster Trio are self-made

[Herrera95]

Do you even know how long a generation is ? its close to like 6-7 generations behind if ryuma was 400 years ago. and watch how luffy got joyboy liniage from 800 years ago gave him the voice of all things so it doesnt matter how long ago was it.

Dude I said 100 generations not doing actual math, holy shit.

A generation is around 30 years, it's when people have a kid not when people die. So more like 13 generations or more than 6-7 considering 400 years ago because your headcannon or a filler information says so.

Ryuuma most likely was alive during void century and was responsible since that time for WG not invading Wano. Otherwise WG would have invaded in those 400 years prior Ryuma.

So just double those 13 generations that would represent 400 years and now we have 26 generations or more between Ryuuma and Zoro.
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Did Ryuma's haki genes skip Pinzoro and Arashi?
Or were him and Arashi irrelevant because they didn't have great blades to carry them?

Genes don't skip.

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

Oh, fuck off with this nonsense.

 

[kurohime]

Zorotards in shambles

:shame:

 

[AL sama]

You are contradicting the manga right now:

People are born with CoC, they do not gain it. By your logic Chopper can awaken CoC if he wants to become the best doctor

More ambition than Yamato and Katakuri.

hold my bad I mixed up a thing so yeah I take it back

however the manga never said anything about inheriting it

 

[Marimo_420]

Joyboy's Haki >>> Genetic engineering >>> having 0.01 percent Shimotsuki genes.

 

[Welkin]

Genes don't skip.

Genes themselves cannot skip, true, BUT things can lie dormant for multiple generations

 

[Albino 👑]

Asura probably comes from zoro's shimotsuki blood
Diable jambe pretty from sora

Luffy might eventually get powers from being a D and/or monkey descendant

 

[NikaInParis]

Judge's failed creation is equal in strength to the culmination of the Shimotsuki lineage

 

[Albino 👑]

Your parent having conquerors doesn't automatically mean you will
The Charlotte being the best example of that

Being related to someone with it whether it's a direct or distant relative does definitely make it alot more likely

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Yasui is closer to ryuma bloodline btw.

Doffy father was a weakling , doffy became why he was on his own.

 

[Soyz]

Dude I said 100 generations not doing actual math, holy shit.

A generation is around 30 years, it's when people have a kid not when people die. So more like 13 generations or more than 6-7 considering 400 years ago because your headcannon or a filler information says so.

Ryuuma most likely was alive during void century and was responsible since that time for WG not invading Wano. Otherwise WG would have invaded in those 400 years prior Ryuma.

So just double those 13 generations that would represent 400 years and now we have 26 generations or more between Ryuuma and Zoro.
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Genes don't skip.

generation in the one piece world isn't the same as real world,people in one piece live longer so 6-7 is more accurate.

 

[Apollo]

The king of hell is zoro releasing all HIS power

Zoro is Enma's Chosen one, per Zoro's words

Zoro became King of Hell through Enma

And how did he learn how to release his haki ?

Enma taught him that.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Considering how evolution works....all in OP are related at some degree.

With your logic no one is self made

 

[Apollo]

Considering how evolution works....all in OP are related at some degree.

With your logic no one is self made

If someone becomes a millionaire because they inherited the wealth of a relative, they are not self made.

Which leads us to, yes, a lot of top tiers in One Piece aren't self made. A better alternative is to make Luffy and his crew not "special" but reach the top nonetheless. Instead only a select special few can reach the top.

Read the last part of the post, this contradicts Luffy's freedom dream when "Fate" keeps being thrown around with Luffy/Zoro/Sanji being benefactors from that.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Nice cope, you want to compare Luffy's Grandfather and father and Mr free handouts Fraudji with an orphan kid because of someone that existed centuries ago.

 

[Apollo]

Nice cope, you want to compare Luffy's Grandfather and father and Mr free handouts Fraudji with an orphan kid because of someone that existed centuries ago.

Joyboy existed centuries ago too. Stop this cope because its clear that bloodlines play a huge role in who is going to reach the top and who won't.

 

[HA001]

Zoro is Enma's Chosen one, per Zoro's words

Zoro became King of Hell through Enma

And how did he learn how to release his haki ?

Enma taught him that.

What the fuck are you on about

Zoro could release his haki already.

 

[NikaInParis]

Idiot logic:
Ryuma - existed hundreds of years ago - has no influence on his literal descendant

Joyboy - existed hundreds of years ago - carries the MC to this day

What falling on your head as a toddler does to mfers

 

[Albino 👑]

Considering how evolution works....all in OP are related at some degree.

With your logic no one is self made

Eh I don't think that's how it really works in one piece

Like zoro clearly has a strong connection and resemblance to ryuma. Alot more than the other shimotsuki descendants. Zoro even carrying his sword at one point

Sanji probably is alot more like either the original vinsmoke or whatever sora is related to

 

[Redboy776]

Are you kidding me?
Zoro has lineage from Ryuma as if he is his clone or straight son.
Zoro trains the most in Strawhats and where others never do (except for timeskip)

Even Yasuie is shitmotsuki , why didn't he forge a black blade of his and fight kaido himself?

Ryuma was 800-400 years ago Stuff.

To the matter of fact Zoro grandma could be herself half Shitmotsuki if Their parents were from different clan. Which already leaves us with 50% of shitmotsuki bloodline. Brining in Roronoa Pinzoro it get reduced to 25 % by the time it reaches Roronoa Arashi.
And for Zoro 12.5%. which is almost negligible.
Momonusuke and Hiyori are from Kozuki clan too but neither of them is strong like oden.
Saul being one of the D. Clan member isn't strong himself aokiji lol diffed him.

Whereas for luffy And Sanji its literally connection from their father.

This Zoro is a very distand Shimotsuki at best.


at least 400 years of shimotsuki blood regression.

shimotsuki marry roronoa 25 %

roronoa marry daughter of a criminal 12,5 %

The only thing Zoro realy inherited from Shimotsuki Ryuma is his will to be the strongest cause blood wise he didnt get anything.