General & Others Not everyone is Roger

#41
Ryuma is a God from the same country that produced a Samurai that ranks on the same level as Roger according to Kaido. But you already knew this.
god to a group of people in a closed country is not conquering the seas
your point makes no sense


"same level as Roger according to Kaido"

a bit of reading actually will reveal kaido actually revealed oden was one of the few that could fight him
nothing about him being on the same level with roger.
stop manufacturing alternative facts
 
#42
a bit of reading actually will reveal kaido actually revealed oden was one of the few that could fight him
nothing about him being on the same level with roger.
stop manufacturing alternative facts
X can fight me but Y can only fight for 10 seconds or wtv! Who's manufacturing alternative facts here, when did kaido make a distinction between their levels? So Oden can fight him, Roger can fight him but Oden can't fight Roger or did I miss something? There are no levels between them otherwise they couldn't all be in the same group of people that can take on Kaido.
 
#44
X can fight me but Y can only fight for 10 seconds or wtv! Who's manufacturing alternative facts here, when did kaido make a distinction between their levels? So Oden can fight him, Roger can fight him but Oden can't fight Roger or did I miss something? There are no levels between them otherwise they couldn't all be in the same group of people that can take on Kaido.
seems like this concept is hard for you to understand
so I will use a simple example that will require a response from you



luffy is someone kaido has acknowledged can go toe to toe with him preg5
luffy pre powerup(awakening) is on the level or roger and primewb then correct?


if your answer to that is yes great
at least you would be consistent in being delusional
if your answer to this is No, then you prove you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
#45
seems like this concept is hard for you to understand
so I will use a simple example that will require a response from you



luffy is someone kaido has acknowledged can go toe to toe with him preg5
luffy pre powerup(awakening) is on the level or roger and primewb then correct?


if your answer to that is yes great
at least you would be consistent in being delusional
if your answer to this is No, then you prove you have no idea what you are talking about.
Am I surprised that you didn't answer my questions? No.
 
#46
Honestly do think the garp comparison are fair with him essentially being what roger is to pirates but for the marines
He likley isn't a fruit user but I'm not 100%

Both roger and garp are like 2 sides of the same coin. Setting the standard and reaching the peak of what they do. And in both cases likely without a fruit
 
#48
Roger vs Shiki was an extreme diff fight

Dragon is the person WG feared the most and presumably having higher bounty than Roger with a devil fruit
 
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#49
Roger vs Shiki was an extreme diff fight

Dragon is the person WG feared the most and presumably having higher bounty than Roger with a devil fruit
Roger still was able to accomplish more and be on the top of that level through his haki not relying on fruits like shiki, newgate, linlin, or kaido

Dragon definitely has crazy ambition no doubt about it but there isn't much else to go by for him. We just need to wait to finally see more
Hopefully in a monkey family reunion πŸ™
 
#51
Kaido statement was mainly only about Roger

Shanks didn't conquer the seas as King of this era nor as WS despite his haki, he's below Kaido & BM
Prime Garp was never even above YYonko despite his haki, he still was struggling vs Chinjao.

Roger had max haki + top skills + i bet D. Clan ancestral powers.

Roger is just the exception. Every King of the seas or WS has df except him!
What kinda powers do you expect being a d would give someone?
Would all d's have the same potential power or different branches get different stuff?
 
#52
There are numerous factor i reckon when it comes to conquering the seas in Roger's case that should be taking into account

remember Roger stole the RP coz of Voice of all things - no mi and didn't confront BM

so assuming Roger Blitzkrieged his way through the journey with haki is an erroneous conclusion to come upon and i believe what Kaido said is actually nuanced and shouldn't be taken at face value...there was an aspect of luck, determination/perseverance, derive, and some arbitrary aspects like Oden, Zou... etc

You can't argue that the other Yonko had such leverages to themselves and should be able to pull it off as well
 
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