Speculations Now That It’s Confirmed Gaban Is A COC User, Who Will Sanji Unlock COC Against?
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Personally don’t really care if Sanji gets CoC as I quite like the unique route Oda’s been going on with his power ups but it’s delightful to see the usual suspects rustle & squirm at the prospect of him having it 
. An L entirely of their own making btw 💀
I think it’s entirely possible that Oda doesn’t give Sanji CoC & gives him this PoL ting as his equivalent but also don’t think having PoL means he won’t be getting CoC.
For instance taking Zoro & Rayleigh for instance, they aren’t completely 1 to 1 with power ups. Ray didn’t have a black blade for example. So likewise unlike Gaban, Sanji could have his CoC in addition to his PoL ^^
With regard to when Sanji unlocks it, I don’t think it necessarily has to be Elbaf tbh. Personally if I were to choose a moment, it’d be whenever Sanji gets his next Janbe upgrade.
Sanji’s Janbe modes follow the pattern below atm:
Diable (悪魔 -> Demon) -> Ifrit (魔神 - High ranking Demon) -> (魔王？ - Demon King)
So chances are that he manifests it when he gets that upgrade. So maybe in a fight against Lafitte?
Laffite also has the ‘Demon Sheriff’ epithet and given all of the OG BB pirates Epithets are related to their abilities, Lafitte having a demon related zoan is very likely so thematically it could be Demon v Demon with the superior demon (I.e the Demon King) coming out on top.
. An L entirely of their own making btw 💀I think it’s entirely possible that Oda doesn’t give Sanji CoC & gives him this PoL ting as his equivalent but also don’t think having PoL means he won’t be getting CoC.
For instance taking Zoro & Rayleigh for instance, they aren’t completely 1 to 1 with power ups. Ray didn’t have a black blade for example. So likewise unlike Gaban, Sanji could have his CoC in addition to his PoL ^^
With regard to when Sanji unlocks it, I don’t think it necessarily has to be Elbaf tbh. Personally if I were to choose a moment, it’d be whenever Sanji gets his next Janbe upgrade.
Sanji’s Janbe modes follow the pattern below atm:
Diable (悪魔 -> Demon) -> Ifrit (魔神 - High ranking Demon) -> (魔王？ - Demon King)
So chances are that he manifests it when he gets that upgrade. So maybe in a fight against Lafitte?
Laffite also has the ‘Demon Sheriff’ epithet and given all of the OG BB pirates Epithets are related to their abilities, Lafitte having a demon related zoan is very likely so thematically it could be Demon v Demon with the superior demon (I.e the Demon King) coming out on top.
Lafitte will fight Nami. He's the navigator of the Blackbeard Pirates.
Same logic applies to Usopp vs. Van Augur, Chopper vs. Doc Q, Zoro vs. Shiryu, and Jinbe vs. Burgess.
Robin and Franky will fight Devon and Wolf for obvious reasons.
Pizarro is a former king from the North Blue, and I think he's the strongest after Shiryu.
Same logic applies to Usopp vs. Van Augur, Chopper vs. Doc Q, Zoro vs. Shiryu, and Jinbe vs. Burgess.
Robin and Franky will fight Devon and Wolf for obvious reasons.
Pizarro is a former king from the North Blue, and I think he's the strongest after Shiryu.
KUZAN and VAN AUGUR kidnapped Pudding
DEVON likes to 'take care' of beautiful women
Laffitte lost his job as sheriff because of his sadistic tendencies
Here I would look for a potential opponent for Sanji
It’s pretty perplexing how folks choose ignorance over common sense time & time again. Is like y’all are addicted to taking Ls. Forget your raging boner for Sanji for a bit & use that god given head you have lol
- You’ve seen the hype Gaban is getting from Oda (i.e Comparable to Roger & Rayleigh) and we’ve gotten confirmation that Roger has ACoC . Ray is a CoC user so he can most likely use ACoC as well.
- You’ve seen that he’s most likely not a devil fruit user from his fight with Luffy so like most non-df users his Haki is most likely dominant
- You know that Rock’s had multiple conquerors under him in the likes of Newgate, Kaido & Linlin. Roger’s crew is even above them so on probabilities what at are the chances that Roger also had maybe more than one as well? Zero? 😂
- You’ve seen his portrayal against both Luffy & Zoro. One serious attack had Luffy white as snow in Nika-less mode & Zoro had to jump in with intent to tag team Gaban coz of his preceived threat level.
-You’ve see the black Haki trail on the weapon alongside the bari bari sfx which is usually used to indicate CoC. This trail was shown right before the clash with Luffy so it’s not sparks that came about as a result of a collision.
- You’ve see an image of Gaban’s attack right alongside Ragnarok thanks to @MonsterZoro panels and there’s literally no difference.
but yh, gotta be spelt out that he used CoC for him to have it 😂.
- You’ve seen the hype Gaban is getting from Oda (i.e Comparable to Roger & Rayleigh) and we’ve gotten confirmation that Roger has ACoC . Ray is a CoC user so he can most likely use ACoC as well.
- You’ve seen that he’s most likely not a devil fruit user from his fight with Luffy so like most non-df users his Haki is most likely dominant
- You know that Rock’s had multiple conquerors under him in the likes of Newgate, Kaido & Linlin. Roger’s crew is even above them so on probabilities what at are the chances that Roger also had maybe more than one as well? Zero? 😂
- You’ve seen his portrayal against both Luffy & Zoro. One serious attack had Luffy white as snow in Nika-less mode & Zoro had to jump in with intent to tag team Gaban coz of his preceived threat level.
-You’ve see the black Haki trail on the weapon alongside the bari bari sfx which is usually used to indicate CoC. This trail was shown right before the clash with Luffy so it’s not sparks that came about as a result of a collision.
- You’ve see an image of Gaban’s attack right alongside Ragnarok thanks to @MonsterZoro panels and there’s literally no difference.
but yh, gotta be spelt out that he used CoC for him to have it 😂.
Tbh the only thing that would indicate it wasn't ACoC would be Luffy just calling it haki.
If it was ACoC, Oda would've been better off having Luffy say nothing than having him be surprised that the old man could use haki at all. I don't even think Oda knows whether it was ACoC or not - I don't think he gives af yet. Bro left it ambiguous while he focuses on other things.
Black lightning scaling is confusing enough, now Oda's just calling everything haki lmfao. Such a terrible power system. I'd be inclined to call it ACoC since it received a panel of focus, but I can't understand why Luffy would be surprised that basic haki in general was being used, yet not call out the fact that some random ossan was using the power of the strongest. It could go either way, I'd say like 60/40 he has it vs he doesn't.
If it was ACoC, Oda would've been better off having Luffy say nothing than having him be surprised that the old man could use haki at all. I don't even think Oda knows whether it was ACoC or not - I don't think he gives af yet. Bro left it ambiguous while he focuses on other things.
Black lightning scaling is confusing enough, now Oda's just calling everything haki lmfao. Such a terrible power system. I'd be inclined to call it ACoC since it received a panel of focus, but I can't understand why Luffy would be surprised that basic haki in general was being used, yet not call out the fact that some random ossan was using the power of the strongest. It could go either way, I'd say like 60/40 he has it vs he doesn't.
When was it confirmed that Gaban is a CoC user?
Or are we gonna say every single time black armament was used with some black lightning, it's CoC?
When characters are revealed to have it, there is some basis to it: either a big deal made, specifically pointed out, or fodders fainting, or some comment from an observer, etc, etc.
Shall we go back and label Katakuri and probably half a dozen more characters as CoC users, too?
I have no problem believing Gaban is relative to Rayleigh, but no Conquerors was confirmed. I think he might have it though.
I have same issue with Garp ngl. When the fuck was it cOnfIrmEd that he was ACoC? Fucking never. He might, but there's confirmation of fuck all.
Or are we gonna say every single time black armament was used with some black lightning, it's CoC?
When characters are revealed to have it, there is some basis to it: either a big deal made, specifically pointed out, or fodders fainting, or some comment from an observer, etc, etc.
Shall we go back and label Katakuri and probably half a dozen more characters as CoC users, too?
I have no problem believing Gaban is relative to Rayleigh, but no Conquerors was confirmed. I think he might have it though.
I have same issue with Garp ngl. When the fuck was it cOnfIrmEd that he was ACoC? Fucking never. He might, but there's confirmation of fuck all.
