Future Events Oda clowning the enemies and stacking the allies

#24
Why ? this is the first manga that I read that the enemies are constantly clowned/downplayed while the allies get an overwhelming amount of shine especially towards the final sagas


Like the recent red film movie made me realize like wtf is shanks' crew , it's literally another Pirate King level crew but it's on our side and we fucking only had 3 of those first with Xebec then Roger and now Shanks

Newgate/LinLin/Shiki Rayleigh/Gaban/Oden Beckman/Roo/Yasopp all characters seem above the admirals and future emperors if they wanted to but like why the fuck would Oda do this to Shanks' crew instead of Blackbeard the one we're gonna actually fight


Does anyone really believe that Shiryu or Pizzaro could be emperors ? or could even battle admirals ? .... And Blackbeard Pirates is the only pirate crew that could even come close to an enemy , Kid's Law's and Buggy's are a joke compared to the StrawHats now


And on the WG side it's even worse, the admirals downplay has hits a new low every other chapter that they are not considered a threat anymore and CP0's top dogs were beaten by Izo like wtf ... And what is even the point of hyping up Sabo at the expense of 2 ADMIRALS


Like the end game looks rough for tension , does anyone believe Luffy and his legion have any chance of losing vs the WG or any pirate group ? we needed someone like Xebec who has multiple emperors under him and we needed marine like Garp and Sengoku that all gave Roger a good fight before pirate king
Xebec didn't have multiple Emperor's under him. Those pirates got stronger over time and became Emperors, they weren't that strong from get go.
 
#25
Why the fuck are you complaining about manga with non canon movie arguments and using them as smth legit lmao?
The only canon stuff there is Shanks past and that's all.

And this is a manga about pirates. And anyone with some basic number of brain cells knew that Yonko > Admirals, therefore after Luffy defeating the strongest one (or more like the 2nd), ofc Navy would not look like a threat.
Your fault for being delusional and think that Admirals are comparable to Yonko.
 
#30
Why ? this is the first manga that I read that the enemies are constantly clowned/downplayed while the allies get an overwhelming amount of shine especially towards the final sagas


Like the recent red film movie made me realize like wtf is shanks' crew , it's literally another Pirate King level crew but it's on our side and we fucking only had 3 of those first with Xebec then Roger and now Shanks

Newgate/LinLin/Shiki Rayleigh/Gaban/Oden Beckman/Roo/Yasopp all characters seem above the admirals and future emperors if they wanted to but like why the fuck would Oda do this to Shanks' crew instead of Blackbeard the one we're gonna actually fight


Does anyone really believe that Shiryu or Pizzaro could be emperors ? or could even battle admirals ? .... And Blackbeard Pirates is the only pirate crew that could even come close to an enemy , Kid's Law's and Buggy's are a joke compared to the StrawHats now


And on the WG side it's even worse, the admirals downplay has hits a new low every other chapter that they are not considered a threat anymore and CP0's top dogs were beaten by Izo like wtf ... And what is even the point of hyping up Sabo at the expense of 2 ADMIRALS


Like the end game looks rough for tension , does anyone believe Luffy and his legion have any chance of losing vs the WG or any pirate group ? we needed someone like Xebec who has multiple emperors under him and we needed marine like Garp and Sengoku that all gave Roger a good fight before pirate king
3 Admirals

1 Fleet Admiral

World Government Military Commander in Chief
Uranus

Vegapunk, SSG army and the strongest SSG

The Knights of God and the leader / strongest Knight, maybe few guys and at least the strongest Knight is sure to be at the level of Admiral or Big Mom or even Emperor

Gorosei, i think each of the 5 is at the level of Admiral

Imu, who i think is the most powerful character ever, significantly more than anyone

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About the Red Hair, i think Shanks will ally with Luffy only after Luffy surpass him or his test or whatever. Before that, i think it will be a 3-way fight between L vs BB vs S. But Beckmann Lucky Roux etc...i dont think each of them as above Admirals. I dont think they are at Admiral level, even, still below, whatever slightly.


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About this thread overall,

I think World Government is still stronger than the alliance and friends, but not as much. So it's a near equal of a match. And...even when the chances were slimmer in Wano, but Oda always wrote asspull powerups and nerfs to the villain so the tension instantly plummeted.

So since it's the writing quality itself that is subpar...i dont think whatever imbalance the powerscaling that exists will affect the storytelling itself, since Oda WILL make fake hypes for the enemies and ruin the tension whenever he feels like it anyway.
 
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#34
Why ? this is the first manga that I read that the enemies are constantly clowned/downplayed while the allies get an overwhelming amount of shine especially towards the final sagas


Like the recent red film movie made me realize like wtf is shanks' crew , it's literally another Pirate King level crew but it's on our side and we fucking only had 3 of those first with Xebec then Roger and now Shanks

Newgate/LinLin/Shiki Rayleigh/Gaban/Oden Beckman/Roo/Yasopp all characters seem above the admirals and future emperors if they wanted to but like why the fuck would Oda do this to Shanks' crew instead of Blackbeard the one we're gonna actually fight


Does anyone really believe that Shiryu or Pizzaro could be emperors ? or could even battle admirals ? .... And Blackbeard Pirates is the only pirate crew that could even come close to an enemy , Kid's Law's and Buggy's are a joke compared to the StrawHats now


And on the WG side it's even worse, the admirals downplay has hits a new low every other chapter that they are not considered a threat anymore and CP0's top dogs were beaten by Izo like wtf ... And what is even the point of hyping up Sabo at the expense of 2 ADMIRALS


Like the end game looks rough for tension , does anyone believe Luffy and his legion have any chance of losing vs the WG or any pirate group ? we needed someone like Xebec who has multiple emperors under him and we needed marine like Garp and Sengoku that all gave Roger a good fight before pirate king
someone else who sees it...
 
#37
3 Admirals

1 Fleet Admiral

World Government Military Commander in Chief
Uranus

Vegapunk, SSG army and the strongest SSG

The Knights of God and the leader / strongest Knight, maybe few guys and at least the strongest Knight is sure to be at the level of Admiral or Big Mom or even Emperor

Gorosei, i think each of the 5 is at the level of Admiral

Imu, who i think is the most powerful character ever, significantly more than anyone

---


About the Red Hair, i think Shanks will ally with Luffy only after Luffy surpass him or his test or whatever. Before that, i think it will be a 3-way fight between L vs BB vs S. But Beckmann Lucky Roux etc...i dont think each of them as above Admirals. I dont think they are at Admiral level, even, still below, whatever slightly.


---


About this thread overall,

I think World Government is still stronger than the alliance and friends, but not as much. So it's a near equal of a match. And...even when the chances were slimmer in Wano, but Oda always wrote asspull powerups and nerfs to the villain so the tension instantly plummeted.

So since it's the writing quality itself that is subpar...i dont think whatever imbalance the powerscaling that exists will affect the storytelling itself, since Oda WILL make fake hypes for the enemies and ruin the tension whenever he feels like it anyway.

I think what bugs me the most is honestly the BBP like they are supposed to be the Xebec parrallel as it's said as a fact Roger's biggest foe didn't come from the Marines (Garp/Sengoku/Kong etc) , it came from a pirate Xebec and his crew

Now does anyone really believe that Shiryu Pizzaro Devon are nowhere near Newgate LinLin Shiki ? and no amount of fake hype can make them catchup

The World Goverement on the other hand the question isnt really about the top guys like Imu could match Luffy sure but if i make the list of allies the list is insanely long and unless SSG is game breaking its too much and the worse could be yet to come as there's theories that Vegapunk is a revolutionnary and that the SSG will turn and once that happened no tension will be left , its just a smooth sail as the final saga
 
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Herrera95

#39
Oda is actually clowing everybody.

Look what he did with Sanji, Luffy...

Even Shanks. People hype him up because they don't know how to interpret things. Shanks did nothing until Kaido and BM were defeated. And now he is finally moving on.
 
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