General & Others Oda handling rivals

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Herrera95

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Rivals doesn't mean they are Equals
All Worst Generation are Rivals, because they compete for One Piece
Doesn't mean they are Equals in Combat
No they don't compete for One Piece. Proof of this is both Law and X-Drake. I would say also Apoo since he is Kaido's pet.
Zoro and Killer are also Worst Gen but being Vice-Captain basically means they are not aiming the same dream their captains aim. Of course both want their captain to achieve their dreams but that doesn't make Zoro and Luffy rivals or Kid and Killer rivals(like Kid and Luffy had a chance against their best men).
 
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Herrera95

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Read Naruto....you'll get 700 chapters of everyone and their rivals
"Rivals" like if Neji could handle 5th gate Rock Lee or Kakashi that could have been much more overpowered ninja but I agree he couldn't handle 8th gate Might Guy.

Naruto Rasengan being stronger than Sasuke Chidori in their first battle was as much bullshit as Sasuke transformation power up to win Naruto later on.
 
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"Rivals" like if Neji could handle 5th gate Rock Lee or Kakashi that could have been much more overpowered ninja but I agree he couldn't handle 8th gate Might Guy.

Naruto Rasengan being stronger than Sasuke Chidori in their first battle was as much bullshit as Sasuke transformation power up to win Naruto later on.
Neji was always stronger than Lee, until his dying breath. Lee's infinite Tsukuyomi dream being to finally beat Neji ( and Naruto) proves that. Kakashi was kinda nerfed with that chakra draining sharingan, but yeah he could've been something else.

How was it bullshit? Rasengan was introduced as being stronger than the Chidori from the get go and not just some random thing. He only won cause naruto chose to prove him wrong, which would technically make it a draw in my book
 
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Oda does terrible job at this, beside Roge and WB, almost everytime one is stronger and its not even close.
Why is this the only criteria for how good a rivalry is.

Luffy/Blackbeard is absolute gold
Same with Luffy/Smoker and Luffy/Koby

I'd even say Zoro/Tashigi is a good rivalry. "But zoro neg diff", yeah not everything is about powerscaling, retards.
 
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Herrera95

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Neji was always stronger than Lee, until his dying breath. Lee's infinite Tsukuyomi dream being to finally beat Neji ( and Naruto) proves that. Kakashi was kinda nerfed with that chakra draining sharingan, but yeah he could've been something else.

How was it bullshit? Rasengan was introduced as being stronger than the Chidori from the get go and not just some random thing. He only won cause naruto chose to prove him wrong, which would technically make it a draw in my book
Stop the cap. No way Neji surviving 5 gates Rock Lee. You are basically saying that Neji would have won against Gaara.

Rasengan was stronger than why he lost to Sasuke's Chidori after that? Why Chidori is killing people while Rasengan is just throwing them away?
 
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Stop the cap. No way Neji surviving 5 gates Rock Lee. You are basically saying that Neji would have won against Gaara.

Rasengan was stronger than why he lost to Sasuke's Chidori after that? Why Chidori is killing people while Rasengan is just throwing them away?
No cap Lee has never beaten Neji, with or without gates and that's a fact. Whether he beats chunin exam Gaara is debatable, but that doesn't matter as Lee lost badly.

He didn't 💀, they didn't even clash. Sasuke aimed at his chest and Naruto scratched his forehead. Everytime they actually did clash they equalled out. And that's nothing to boast about as Chidori is a (failed) Rasengan plus lightening element added to it. What would be (or should be) it's equivalent is the Rasenshuriken and that would smoke the Chidori and sasuke at the same time
 
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Herrera95

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No cap Lee has never beaten Neji, with or without gates and that's a fact. Whether he beats chunin exam Gaara is debatable, but that doesn't matter as Lee lost badly.

He didn't 💀, they didn't even clash. Sasuke aimed at his chest and Naruto scratched his forehead. Everytime they actually did clash they equalled out. And that's nothing to boast about as Chidori is a (failed) Rasengan plus lightening element added to it. What would be (or should be) it's equivalent is the Rasenshuriken and that would smoke the Chidori and sasuke at the same time
Debatable hahahaha. Lee almost killed Gaara. Neji had no chance against that Rock Lee or Gaara.

Rock Lee ever fought Neji using gates? I don't remember that happening.

So if Chidori and Rasengan clash equally out then one is no better than other.
 
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Debatable hahahaha. Lee almost killed Gaara. Neji had no chance against that Rock Lee or Gaara.

Rock Lee ever fought Neji using gates? I don't remember that happening.

So if Chidori and Rasengan clash equally out then one is no better than other.
Yes debatable. No he didn't, garaa was perfectly fine after the fight and Lee was a cripple that needed Tsunade to heal him. Sasuke copied a weightless Lee's movements and mimicked his speed against Gaara and bypassed his sand. Lee needed (and it was stated by him) the gates against Neji, meaning his weightless speed was easily kept up with by Neji. And Neji's attack potency > Lee as Neji states he can literally destroy chakra constructs and techniques. R.i.p sand anything

Rock Lee's 1 wish in Infinite Tsukuyomi was to finally have a chance at beating Neji. So either it's he's never tried fighting Neji again (very stupid of him) or he did and Neji still beat his ass, you can choose whichever one you want lol.

You're the one that said chidori was stronger, when it has never been shown to be stronger than the rasenagn....ever
 
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Herrera95

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Yes debatable. No he didn't, garaa was perfectly fine after the fight and Lee was a cripple that needed Tsunade to heal him.

Rock Lee's 1 wish in Infinite Tsukuyomi was to finally have a chance of beating Neji. So either it's he's never tried fighting Neji again (very stupid of him) or he did and Neji still beat his ass, you can choose whichever one you want lol.

You're the one that said chidori was stronger, when it has never been shown to be stronger than the rasenagn....ever
Haha. Dude trying to put Neji on Gaara's level. Holy shit.
Gaara was scared of Rock Lee. That's why he went after him at hospital later on.

Rock Lee and Neji never fought again. Head cannon and assumptions are not valid arguments.

I never said Chidori was stronger. I specifically said Rasengan was stronger in their first battle. Which is ridiculous since all those rasengan from Naruto did was throwing people away while Sasuke's Chidori had potential to kill.
 
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Haha. Dude trying to put Neji on Gaara's level. Holy shit.
Gaara was scared of Rock Lee. That's why he went after him at hospital later on.

Rock Lee and Neji never fought again. Head cannon and assumptions are not valid arguments.

I never said Chidori was stronger. I specifically said Rasengan was stronger in their first battle. Which is ridiculous since all those rasengan from Naruto did was throwing people away while Sasuke's Chidori had potential to kill.
He's on his level or above him 🤷🏾‍♂️. What's Gaara's cowardice got to do with Neji?

Then that's Lee's own stupid fault. How about you go read the story again 😜


And it was stronger, go argue with the author if you vexes you so much 💀. Sasuke needed that senjutsu upgrade to make it as lethal as Naruto's and they only started equalling out on shippuden. They're both A rank jutsus and have been used to kill people.


 
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Herrera95

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He's on his level or above him 🤷🏾‍♂️. What's Gaara's cowardice got to do with Neji?

Then that's Lee's own stupid fault. How about you go read the story again 😜


And it was stronger, go argue with the author if you vexes you so much 💀. Sasuke needed that senjutsu upgrade to make it as lethal as Naruto's and they only started equalling out on shippuden. They're both A rank jutsus and have been used to kill people.


Dude I'm talking about Naruto classic and your are changing discussion to Shippuden hahaha. They are different manga.

Naruto Rasengan by the time we faced Sasuke in Naruto Classic he just throwing away people. Just watch what he did with Kabuto free hit Rasengan.

Sasuke was lethal with Chidori since he learned in Chunnin Exam.
 
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Dude I'm talking about Naruto classic and your are changing discussion to Shippuden hahaha. They are different manga.

Naruto Rasengan by the time we faced Sasuke in Naruto Classic he just throwing away people. Just watch what he did with Kabuto free hit Rasengan.

Sasuke was lethal with Chidori since he learned in Chunnin Exam.
Same story and same 2 characters. If Lee hasn't/couldn't beat Neji in shippuden, sure has hell not doing it in part 1, that's just common sense.

He literally drilled a hole in Kabuto's chest and he would've died if Kabuto didn't start healing at the point of contact. Man are you even looking at what you're reading 💀

And Naruto was lethal with Rasengan when he learnt it in the Tsunade retrieval arc
 
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