Speculations Oda hinting Yonkos are not done

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Herrera95

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So we are all thinking Yonkos are done for being at lava and passed a week never happened.

But we still lacks confirmation of them being dead.

And more important we have after one week to important characters that got out of their sleep. Luffy and Zoro.

Zoro is not a good one for this argument since he took the most damage of the raid because of the pill drawback. Yes more damage than Kaido until lava at least.

But Luffy is the one who took less damage because he revived. All damage before that was ignored. So Luffy at final round took just a few hits from Kaido which were mostly gags so we can't even say if they hurt him or not. At Luffy having Mythical Zoan DF implies that he has better durability endurance and regeneration.

So that Luffy with all those boosts who fought for the shortest period only wake up after 1 week of the battle. And he was the winner.

Imagine Kaido who fought half alliance and lost. Or Big Mom that fought 2 persons on Luffy leveland doesn't have Zoan DF.

If winners are waking up this late we can't expect losers to wake up early than them. They will wake up now or soon.
 
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Zeus says hello to those who thinks BM is dead.
Technically, BM is "alive" because her only remaining life is on Zeus... Similar to Kanjuro being technically "alive" for a few chapters because of Kazenbo... But BM is good as dead since Zeus is not with her...

As for Kaido losing a horn and dying makes no sense. He got scarred by Zoro and lost a Horn so why kill him too?
Ask WB... He was pierced and holed in MF aside from being sick...
 
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you've got proof that homies die when the user dies?
Yes. Mother Caramel's death have made her Sun vanish then Big Mom made her own.

And during WCI when Big Mom became thin all the homies around WCI were acting weird and started losing control confirmed by Perospero.

Technically, BM is "alive" because her only remaining life is on Zeus... Similar to Kanjuro being technically "alive" for a few chapters because of Kazenbo... But BM is good as dead since Zeus is not with her...
Ask WB... He was pierced and holed in MF aside from being sick...
Its different with WB because both injuries were fatal to begin with. But you do have a great example of 4 Characters. Shanks lived an entire 1k chapters. Cat Dog and Kiku both lost limbs and they survived.
 
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Yes. Mother Caramel's death have made her Sun vanish then Big Mom made her own.
Have you seen how Carmel died? She was killed off-panel... Who knows if she attacked BM or cling onto Pandora...

And during WCI when Big Mom became thin all the homies around WCI were acting weird and started losing control confirmed by Perospero.
Did Zeus acted weird as well?

Its different with WB because both injuries were fatal to begin with. But you do have a great example of 4 Characters. Shanks lived an entire 1k chapters. Cat Dog and Kiku both lost limbs and they survived.
And Luffy's attack is not fatal? Kaido's horn shouldn't be broken... I know you'll say the typical "Luffy doesn't kill" excuse... But him falling into the magma killed him, not Luffy's attack... Your examples got medical care afterwards... Kaido never got one for a week or so...

Stop this :pepecopium: ... Oda wanted to surpass MF wherein WB and Ace died... He killed several characters in Wano including Kaido and BM which intensity in the current storyline is as good, if not better, then the MF deaths and y'all are crying...
 
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Herrera95

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Technically, BM is "alive" because her only remaining life is on Zeus... Similar to Kanjuro being technically "alive" for a few chapters because of Kazenbo... But BM is good as dead since Zeus is not with her...
Where is Madre Carmel homie? She is dead and her homie too.
Kanjuro was alive at least until Kazenbo was also alive.
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Move on son cause they're gone! :pepapoo:
It actually feels great to be quoted on memes
 
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Have you seen how Carmel died? She was killed off-panel... Who knows if she attacked BM or cling onto Pandora...
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:Are you serious? So Big Mom Magically had her Devil Fruit without eating one? As far as we know the story at least hints at Big Mom eating Mother Carmael which is why she has her fruit and why Pandora vanished. And then created Prometheus in the same flashback honoring Mother Caramel wanting to be like her.

Did Zeus acted weird as well?
Why would he act weird? Big Mom was conscious even after being bombed and declared that she will be back.


And Luffy's attack is not fatal? Kaido's horn shouldn't be broken... I know you'll say the typical "Luffy doesn't kill" excuse... But him falling into the magma killed him, not Luffy's attack... Your examples got medical care afterwards... Kaido never got one for a week or so...
Luffy's attacks can be fatal i will not deny that. But what you can't confirm is your own conclusions. Did you see what happened to Kaido after he fell in that Magma? How are you so sure Kaido never got any treatment? :milaugh:

Stop this :pepecopium: ... Oda wanted to surpass MF wherein WB and Ace died... He killed several characters in Wano including Kaido and BM which intensity in the current storyline is as good, if not better, then the MF deaths and y'all are crying...
Marineford confirmed WB and Ace's death but did Wano confirm anything ? I am sorry but you need to check your facts before confirming whatever you don't know about :goyea:.

Let Oda say Kaido and Big Mom are dead don't just go assuming on your own. :goyea:
 
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Herrera95

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Have you seen how Carmel died? She was killed off-panel... Who knows if she attacked BM or cling onto Pandora...
BM has her DF. 2 persons can't have the same DF. You can only lose your DF by dying.
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Oda wanted to surpass MF wherein WB and Ace died... He killed several characters in Wano including Kaido and BM which intensity in the current storyline is as good, if not better, then the MF deaths and y'all are crying...
Marineford shits on Wano even with less kills.

Marineford the villains were Marines. And they killed the pirates.

Wano the villains were the pirates. And they killed nobody. Only Orochi killed Yasuie(or Orochi subordinates, not sure). And he is not a pirate or main villain.
 
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Where is Madre Carmel homie? She is dead and her homie too.
Kanjuro was alive at least until Kazenbo was also alive.
You haven't explored the possibility that Carmel sucked Pandora's life before BM killed/ate her...
:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh:Are you serious? So Big Mom Magically had her Devil Fruit without eating one? As far as we know the story at least hints at Big Mom eating Mother Carmael which is why she has her fruit and why Pandora vanished. And then created Prometheus in the same flashback honoring Mother Caramel wanting to be like her.
Read my response above...

Why would he act weird? Big Mom was conscious even after being bombed and declared that she will be back.
I mean, when Peros said that homies are acting weird... Zeus, Prome and Nap weren't acting weird...

Luffy's attacks can be fatal i will not deny that. But what you can't confirm is your own conclusions. Did you see what happened to Kaido after he fell in that Magma? How are you so sure Kaido never got any treatment? :milaugh:
It's weirder to presume that Kaido and BM got out of the magma than to presume that they died there...

Marineford confirmed WB and Ace's death but did Wano confirm anything ? I am sorry but you need to check your facts before confirming whatever you don't know about :goyea:.

Let Oda say Kaido and Big Mom are dead don't just go assuming on your own. :goyea:
This is copium at its finest... You're assuming that those 2 Yonkos have plot armor... The thing is, it's more logical to assume that they're dead now... :suresure:

BM has her DF. 2 persons can't have the same DF. You can only lose your DF by dying.
Read my earlier response to you above...

Marineford shits on Wano even with less kills.

Marineford the villains were Marines. And they killed the pirates.

Wano the villains were the pirates. And they killed nobody. Only Orochi killed Yasuie(or Orochi subordinates, not sure). And he is not a pirate or main villain.
What's your point? Only villains can kill? :kobeha:
 
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