General & Others Oda saving Mihawk

#21
Every top tier has bad feats, kaido jabbing to rocks, bm constantly getting memed, kizaru getting pushed around by Marco, kuzan bleeding to jozu, garp getting dropped to 1% hp from a basic stab, sengoku not being able to damage pre time skip luffy, etc. All the top tier in mf were fighting way harder than mihawk. Mihawk had no real narrative place as wb was the only one he cwould completely fodderlize if he fought seriously. All the admirals had more narrative purpose to fight wb which is why they all did at some point. Garp sengoku and mihawk had less narrative purpose to fight him which is why none did. If mf was written with all of them being serious the wb pirates would have gotten wiped out in 10 minutes amd luffy would have died so mf top tiers had to be held back. All top tiers have bad showing because oda doesn't make his top tiers complete monsters but have quirks about them that let's other characters take advantage of them. Mihawks is he only uses necessary power to fight his opponent. He fights down to his competition which is why a east blue zoro could have a full fight with him and didn't get instantly fodderlize. Oda gave him that type of personality to preserve him going all out while still keep him respectable as he will always fight to the level of competition. That's like saying kaido looks bad because his quirk is letting characters hit him to judge how worthy they are. Mihawk is never going to just go all out and he's always going to fight to the level of his opponent that's his personality and it doesn't make him look bad for doing it. Oda can't let mihawk go all out because him doing that caps the story. And in mf if mihawk took out Vista wbp lose a huge piece of thier army and if he took out luffy the story is over. Mihawk couldn't take out either for narrative purpose so oda used the quirk in his personality to make him fight to their level just to progress the story. It's not that serious anybody with half a brain knows if mihawk was serious he would have easily killed luffy or Vista but not only could he not for the story but it isn't in his personality to just go all out and kill someone.
Not really
No top tier in marineford were put in situations where they looked weak and no character in general goes all out off the bat

Kuzan didn’t go all out but wasn’t put in situations where he was chasing after Luffy just to be stopped by vista and crocodile talking shit
Hell it took just about everyone to stop Sakazuki from getting luffy
Borsalino was casually bodied luffy every time they “clashed”

Even within the warlords none of them were done that dirty either. Everytime Doflamingo and Hancock were doing anything they were never bitched
 
#26

It’s often brought up how luffy was lucky mihawk was going easy on him but if you actually think about it mihawk tried way harder to kill luffy than luffy tried to even fight him


Mihawk was one of the first guys to even attack luffy while claiming he won’t hold back


Luffy didn’t even say he couldn’t beat mihawk just that he doesn’t have the time to fight him because he was focused on things that actually matter like ace


All things considered he was doing pretty well both evading and even tanking attacks


Mihawk refusing to let him go until some strong enough to stop him let luffy free

Man had the nerve to go after a distracted luffy again after being upset at witnessing his conquerors power




This time crocodile and daz stopping him and letting luffy free

What if oda wasn’t saving luffy from mihawk but mihawk from luffy?
:hope::jordanmf:


If you look at cross guild and to the left of buggy they were all luffy victims due to becoming fodder and giving up their true ambitions
  1. Luffy beat buggy
  2. Luffy beat crocodile
  3. Luffy beat Moria
Only one he didn’t beat was mihawk and looking back he might’ve been fodder to his prime self too. Now being able to be his true 1yc self with crocodile being 2yc and Moria the 3yc
:crazwhat:
he said he won't hold back his sword, not that he personally won't hold back. this is like zoro letting kitetsu or enma cut what it wants, not going all-out
 
#30

It’s often brought up how luffy was lucky mihawk was going easy on him but if you actually think about it mihawk tried way harder to kill luffy than luffy tried to even fight him


Mihawk was one of the first guys to even attack luffy while claiming he won’t hold back


Luffy didn’t even say he couldn’t beat mihawk just that he doesn’t have the time to fight him because he was focused on things that actually matter like ace


All things considered he was doing pretty well both evading and even tanking attacks


Mihawk refusing to let him go until some strong enough to stop him let luffy free

Man had the nerve to go after a distracted luffy again after being upset at witnessing his conquerors power





This time crocodile and daz stopping him and letting luffy free

What if oda wasn’t saving luffy from mihawk but mihawk from luffy?
:hope::jordanmf:


If you look at cross guild and to the left of buggy they were all luffy victims due to becoming fodder and giving up their true ambitions
  1. Luffy beat buggy
  2. Luffy beat crocodile
  3. Luffy beat Moria
Only one he didn’t beat was mihawk and looking back he might’ve been fodder to his prime self too. Now being able to be his true 1yc self with crocodile being 2yc and Moria the 3yc
:crazwhat:
- Deskainu :
1/ He couldn't get past an already weakened Marco while being blood lusted :

2/ He used his signature attack, "Meigo," but failed to stop a 1HP severely injured, brain-dead, and tortured Kuma.

Afterward, 1 HP Kuma still had the strength to defeat New Pacifistas and Vice Admirals, land a punch on Saturn, and save Bonney from an attack using his back, this is how much Meigo affected him with literally nothing lmao :

3/ Sabo speed blitzed him and saved both Luffy and Ace while he was attacking Luffy :
https://x.com/pewpiece/status/1721405846825886027

4/ He couldn't hit Buggy who was overweight :

5/ He got sonned when Shanks came to Marine Ford :
Dude literally went from this


To this


When Shanks came, so NO lol

No wonder dude had to use Squardo to hope for internal betrayal before attempting any confrontation with Whitebeard


No wonder he had an equal 10 days fight with Kuzan later on, ending up scarred all over the body and barely winning despite magma devil fruit when regular fire can cancel out Kuzan's fruit:josad:

6/ Deskainu was treated as nonexistent and his presence was completely disregarded when Shanks was near him casually picking up the Straw Hat while leaving himself open and exuding confidence.

- Pizzalu :

1/ He got humiliated in a clash against Marco :

2/ He needed Marco to be distracted and in 2 v 1 with the help of a Vice Admiral to weaken him so he could affect his HP after the 1st humiliation :

3/ He couldn't get past an old man who was rusty and hadn't wielded a sword for decades and what's funny is Pizzalu started panting mid-clash:

4/ Pizzalu couldn't get past Gear 5th nor speed blitzing it and neither giving moderate damage which Kaido did for fun :

5/ His only damage against Gear 5th was giving a paper cut damage while using an army of clowns that got negdiffed:

6/ Franky, Sanji, Bonney, and Sentomaru suffered nothing from his attacks :
- Midkiji :

1/ He couldn't handle a human form Jozu without a distraction :

2/ He disappeared after a single open-handed attack from old Garp, who had been fighting hundreds of fodder soldiers and Teach’s officers. He only reappeared when Garp decided to leave.


3/ He couldn’t handle an old Garp who had significantly lost his strength due to age, even with thousands of fodder soldiers and Teach’s officers helping him. This only conveyed a sense of desperation on Blackbeard’s side.
No one believed in his strength lmao.

4/ He was speed-blitzed by an already weakened old Garp, who, with a hakiless and nameless throw, treated him as an afterthought to save Coby—and succeeded :

5/ He acknowledged being a weak ass without the help he received in Hachinosu against Garp by stating that they barely won with a team effort :


6/ He got stopped by Ace's flame attack easily :

- Fraudtora :

1/ A YC-level Zoro managed to send a slash from his weakest sword, even under his own gravity, to overpower Fraudtora's Devil Fruit power. Fraudtora was left shivering, pushed back, and kneeling, with his soldiers screaming his name :

2/ He failed to beat a Dressrosa Gear 2sd,3rd Luffy while stating that he was using his utmost :

3/ He couldn't do shit to 2 swords Zoro :

- Fraud Bull :

1/ He got sonned from miles away by Shanks's CoC and chose to retreat while he was shivering and crying :
モモの助や侍達を追い詰めるもシャンクスの覇気により退散

"Although he cornered Momonosuke and his comrades, he retreated due to Shanks's Haki."

2/ He didn't want Kaido's smoke and only came after he got beaten :

3/ He struggled against a YC 7 Morley :
:risiup::risiup:

 
#31
I feel like Oda thinks that by not showing Mihawk's abilities properly he keeps readers more interested in Zoro's dream and Mihawk himself. He wants Mihawk to have an aura of mystery. But manga is too long and Mihawk doing nothing particularly interesting since his first appearance feels frustrating sometimes.
That’s kind of difficult to do with how he got treated when other top tiers (important characters) were also around in the field

not saying he’s not important; but he isn’t as important as others.
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3/ Sabo speed blitzed him and saved both Luffy and Ace while he was attacking Luffy :
@Sentinel
When a ZoroTard reaches his raging limit
:Rofl:
 
#34
Not really
No top tier in marineford were put in situations where they looked weak and no character in general goes all out off the bat

Kuzan didn’t go all out but wasn’t put in situations where he was chasing after Luffy just to be stopped by vista and crocodile talking shit
Hell it took just about everyone to stop Sakazuki from getting luffy
Borsalino was casually bodied luffy every time they “clashed”

Even within the warlords none of them were done that dirty either. Everytime Doflamingo and Hancock were doing anything they were never bitched
Again mihawk fights down to his competition that's his personality. He doesn't look weak it's just the level of competition he's facing. Use common sense. Are the slashes he used in mf going to be what he uses ageos zoro or what he used against Shanks? Obviously he has stronger moves but you want to act like Mihawk was trying his best when he was just fighting to the level of his opponent. Look at the admirals since you just said them all 3 were in front of luffy yet none killed him. Are all the admirals weak because even in a 3 v 1 against luffy none beat him? 3 v 1 luffy and not being able to kill him is way worse look for the admirals than anything mihawk did you and people like you just want hate on mihawk for whatever reason.

For the second time all the admirals had more narrative than in mf. It is a bad feat for kuzan to be completely stopped by jozu. That's a terrible feat and using what you are doing kuzan should only be around as strong as jozu since they were fighting evenly.

Akainu got back up from the entire marines and kizaru. After Akainu started fighting the wb pirates no strong wbp was around Akainu. This dumb nonsense of all the wbp needing to stop Akainu is dumb that didn't happen. When shanks jumped in to save koby why was there nobody strong fighting Akainu and why Akainu was by himself if he was supposed to fought all the wbp? Akainu is 1 of the few top tiers that starts fights completely serious. Even he has bad feats of not being able to catch a massively injured and nearly mindless Kuma. That's a horrible feat if you just want to keep ignoring this is a story and character can't do some things do to narrative. Kuma had to make it to egghead so nothing Akainu did would stop kuma. In context of the story the feat isn't bad because we know Kuma needed to get to egghead. Ignoring this context Akainu looks really bad for not being able to take out a injured and mindless kuma.

Kizaru didn't beat luffy either and mihawk bodied luffy to. This is why luffy needed to get saved so much vs mihawk and even almost lost his arms. Luffy was getting toyed with and still couldn't do anything and needed help. Kizaru nor anyone in mf could kill luffy because he is the mc and the story ends when he dies. Luffy fought the most top tiers during mf yet somehow lived. Luffy encountered mihawk, all 3 admirals, garp, and sengoku. That's 6 top tiers and luffy is still alive somehow.
 
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