Character Discussion Oda should’ve killed off some of the Supernova
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Drake should’ve replaced Filler on the rooftop. Drake having no personal interaction with Kaido despite being a traitor was just dumb writing
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Killer never hurt a Yonko (him making Zoan Kaido cough 3 tiny drops of blood once doesn't count) and he also got KOed by a singular bolt from Zeus while all the other Supernovas on the roof either tanked the bolts or tanked a fireball from Prometheus or both
Killer stuck out like a sore thumb, I don't even know why he was there, it's like 4 adults babysitting a toddler
Killer stuck out like a sore thumb, I don't even know why he was there, it's like 4 adults babysitting a toddler
They weren’t irrelevant tho
Kid and Law beat BM
Killer helped that fight by beating Hawkins
Drake is Koby’s boss and Koby is a main player in the final saga
Bege was important in WCI
Bonney is the new Momonosuke
And Urouge could be used to tie in Enel into the main story
Really the only one that seems outright unimportant is Apoo. Maybe Hawkins. But both were tied to Kid in their alliance. Oda could always bring back Kid and his alliance with Apoo/Hawkins as the new yonko once Teach, Buggy, or Shanks falls.
Killer disarmed BM, stealing Napoleon. This helped the supernova nearly kill BM by knocking her off onigashima.
Kid and Law beat BM
Killer helped that fight by beating Hawkins
Drake is Koby’s boss and Koby is a main player in the final saga
Bege was important in WCI
Bonney is the new Momonosuke
And Urouge could be used to tie in Enel into the main story
Really the only one that seems outright unimportant is Apoo. Maybe Hawkins. But both were tied to Kid in their alliance. Oda could always bring back Kid and his alliance with Apoo/Hawkins as the new yonko once Teach, Buggy, or Shanks falls.
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Killer disarmed BM, stealing Napoleon. This helped the supernova nearly kill BM by knocking her off onigashima.
The only Supernova I singled out as being totally unnecessary were Apoo, Urouge, Hawkins, and Killer, so idk why you brought in Kid, Law, Bonney, Drake and Bege.
If Killer’s only role in the plot was taking out Hawkins, then he’s totally unnecessary because Hawkins himself didn’t need to make it out of the TS either (or even exist at all for that matter). The Hawkins problem can be solved by never even having Hawkins involved in the plot to begin with
If Killer’s only role in the plot was taking out Hawkins, then he’s totally unnecessary because Hawkins himself didn’t need to make it out of the TS either (or even exist at all for that matter). The Hawkins problem can be solved by never even having Hawkins involved in the plot to begin with
Yamato appeared in last minute (should have appeared in act 1)
Too much scabbards, half of them were irrelevant
Yamato didn't joining
King didn't have King's haki
Kaido and Big Mom didn't have awakening
Franky's dad never interacted with Franky
Lady Toki did nothing in the flashback
The only good thing about potential thrown away was Carrot reduced to background character again.
Too much scabbards, half of them were irrelevant
Yamato didn't joining
King didn't have King's haki
Kaido and Big Mom didn't have awakening
Franky's dad never interacted with Franky
Lady Toki did nothing in the flashback
The only good thing about potential thrown away was Carrot reduced to background character again.
Wano was such a disaster of an arc. Anyone OP fanboys who shit on Naruto for the War Arc (which is 100x better than Lano) are certified clowns. Over half the Wano cast was totally unnecessary and just pulled focus away from the actually important characters that we wanted to see more of.
Ashura Doji and Kawamatsu were totally irrelevant and what little they did do could’ve been condensed into Denjiro’s character. Denjiro was already taking care of Hiyori for most of the 20 years, so he could’ve been taking care of her from the get-go rather than Kawamatsu watching over her for 7 years before randomly being thrown in prison. All that Ashura Doji really contributed was finding the blueprints for Onigashima, which would’ve made more sense for Kyoshiro to do anyways since he was a close confidant of Orochi.
Kiku was garbage and only existed to shoehorn in trans representation, which was already sorta covered by Izo anyways (ik Izo’s just a cross dresser, but Oda could’ve just made him trans if he wanted). Izo himself wasn’t really important either tbh, but he was a cool character so I could let it slide.
Raizo was totally irrelevant in Wano itself. His only narrative purpose was serving as an excuse for Jack to attack Zou. Oda could’ve just made Kanjuro be the samurai the Minks were protecting. Kanjuro did jack shit Dressrosa, so he didn’t need to be in that arc. The Dukes putting their lives on the line to protect Kanjuro from Jack would make his betrayal sting all the more.
You could even condense Inu and Neko into one character if you wanted to, but I think their dynamic was interesting enough to justify being two distinct characters. If Oda really wanted to cut down on characters, he could just make Inu and Neko into a single character who has a split personality. Make him a fox since those are canines with some very feline-esque behaviors. Make this character hate himself and blame himself for Oden’s death, making the two split personalities hate each other and thus carrying over the day/night subplot of Zou.
So only 3 of the 9 Scabbards really needed to exist (Kinemon, Kanjuro, and Denjiro), but Izo and both Inu and Neko being included is fine.
As I said before, Hawkins and Apoo were just filler. Kill them off over the timeskip or just incorporate them into other arcs instead. Killer was also unnecessary since all he did was fight Hawkins. Cut these 3, give Drake more focus, and have Drake be the 5th SN on the rooftop. Give him ACoA so he can do a little bit of damage to Kaido, or come up with some other way for him to damage Kaido.
The Yakuza bosses were also filler. Either cut them or have them serve as jobbers for the F6.
Even Hiyori didn’t really matter.
Ashura Doji and Kawamatsu were totally irrelevant and what little they did do could’ve been condensed into Denjiro’s character. Denjiro was already taking care of Hiyori for most of the 20 years, so he could’ve been taking care of her from the get-go rather than Kawamatsu watching over her for 7 years before randomly being thrown in prison. All that Ashura Doji really contributed was finding the blueprints for Onigashima, which would’ve made more sense for Kyoshiro to do anyways since he was a close confidant of Orochi.
Kiku was garbage and only existed to shoehorn in trans representation, which was already sorta covered by Izo anyways (ik Izo’s just a cross dresser, but Oda could’ve just made him trans if he wanted). Izo himself wasn’t really important either tbh, but he was a cool character so I could let it slide.
Raizo was totally irrelevant in Wano itself. His only narrative purpose was serving as an excuse for Jack to attack Zou. Oda could’ve just made Kanjuro be the samurai the Minks were protecting. Kanjuro did jack shit Dressrosa, so he didn’t need to be in that arc. The Dukes putting their lives on the line to protect Kanjuro from Jack would make his betrayal sting all the more.
You could even condense Inu and Neko into one character if you wanted to, but I think their dynamic was interesting enough to justify being two distinct characters. If Oda really wanted to cut down on characters, he could just make Inu and Neko into a single character who has a split personality. Make him a fox since those are canines with some very feline-esque behaviors. Make this character hate himself and blame himself for Oden’s death, making the two split personalities hate each other and thus carrying over the day/night subplot of Zou.
So only 3 of the 9 Scabbards really needed to exist (Kinemon, Kanjuro, and Denjiro), but Izo and both Inu and Neko being included is fine.
As I said before, Hawkins and Apoo were just filler. Kill them off over the timeskip or just incorporate them into other arcs instead. Killer was also unnecessary since all he did was fight Hawkins. Cut these 3, give Drake more focus, and have Drake be the 5th SN on the rooftop. Give him ACoA so he can do a little bit of damage to Kaido, or come up with some other way for him to damage Kaido.
The Yakuza bosses were also filler. Either cut them or have them serve as jobbers for the F6.
Even Hiyori didn’t really matter.
