Speculations Odas Problem with making Zoros fights somewhat thrilling when the Opponent is not on his lvl=Lucci (example: Zoro vs Killer)

#61
There's absolutely no scenario were Zoro is fully fit and un-nerfed (by whatever means), were he loses to that bum lucci.
I'd go as far off to say that KOH won't even be needed and won't be used (but knowing that goof Oda he will).

Secondly the only way Lucci can beat Zoro, is if he has all his swords taken beforehand and he stops using haki all together. This ain't me underestimating the guy either, he's just not that guy.

But Admiralcucks are desperate, so they'll delude themselves into thinking lucci & Kizaru will win lol
 
#62
You dream too much man. Lucci will humble all of you Zoro fanboys who dont realize that Oda build him as the underdog in this fight. Mark my words and better hide in 2 weeks.
Who are you calling a Zoro fanboy? :usoprice:
I’m just being realistic here, what Lucci showed vs g5 was anything but impressive. KoH Zoro would treat him even worse but hell who knows maybe he has something up his sleeve. Zoro is definitely not the underdog here, the SHs as a whole don’t feel like they’re inferior. Just outnumbered but most of those numbers are fodders lol.
 
#63
The Zoro vs Lucci Oda created is just to continue the whole trend of "Zoro is this strong, and he is just Luffy's underling ?"

There are 2 focus on Lucci's character actually
- Betrayal
- Acknowledging Luffy's yonko lvl strength

For the first point, it stems from Enies Lobby. He was the one who did a sneak infiltration for the world government, ending up betraying everyone, but ending up betrayed by the world government at the end of the arc

He is having a similar story in this arc. He accepted an infiltration mission to kill Vegapunk, but ended up betrayed by Stussy and now that he still wants to follow the government orders, Saturn's discussion with Doberman implies imo that Lucci will get another betrayal moment by the end of the arc

For the second point, as mentioned, he still doesn't want to acknowledge Luffy's strength as a yonko despite being referred as one.

Due to their previous battle in Enies Lobby, Lucci has a hard time accepting Luffy is yonko lvl now

And imo his battle with Zoro is there as mentioned to indirectly serve as accept it using the old formula of "Zoro is this strong, and he is just Luffy's underling ?" that has been a recurring theme in the manga

As for the actual battle itself, we'd see, but I expect Zoro to struggle a bit with a combination of Lucci's speed, mobility and martial arts before Zoro finishing him off with a powerful attacks, with the difficulty probably ending up around the mid difficulty range, around the same he got with King in the previous arc, although for a different reason(finding a way to overcome King's gimmick)
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Plus Lucci is injured already,
Zoro shouldn't be pushed beyond lower-high diff or else he's really way behind Luffy in power
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zoro bois already with excuses. Its time they realize Lucci is leagues above him. zoro will need help from outside if he were to beat Lucci :milaugh:

Its a good thing that Lucci is already nerfed after luffy fucked him up so that zoro can has a chance against him lmao
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This. Zoro bois are on super copium already. They dont realize its Lucci who is nerfed here after Luffy fucked him up :gokulaugh:

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They're coping already
The fight is only at the beginning stage

Imagine Zoro struggles hard against injured Lucci
 
#66
I think it's going to be the exact opposite. Once Lucci sees that Luffy is a true Yonko, HE is going to be the one to betray the World Government.

It's oddly suspicious that he didn't include Kaku in on his plan, as if he didn't want Kaku involved for some reason. He made it easier for the Straw Hats, and more difficult for himself and Kizaru, by removing an ally from thier front lines. Why would he do that? Even if Kizaru is an Admiral, he should know Luffy is more than capable of standing up against him. The opposing team also has the Seraphims under thier current control, which they all just struggled with. Despite that, he chose to leave an ally in the dark, and removed from the equation. It feels like he did it on purpose, but for what reason? Perhaps because he didn't want Kaku injured or even taken out before he could enact his real plan. Turn on the WG, and get revenge for what they did to him and CP9 two years prior.
Kaku was severely injured and Lucci hates the weak. Do yall forget peoples characters or something. Tf Kaku was going to do in that condition? Bro he literally tried to take out Vegapunk and complete his mission surrounded by 3 commanders tf are you even talking about
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Plus Lucci is injured already,
Zoro shouldn't be pushed beyond lower-high diff or else he's really way behind Luffy in power
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They're coping already
The fight is only at the beginning stage

Imagine Zoro struggles hard against injured Lucci
Lucci got 1 bandage on his face and they all rested throughout the day.
 
#67
zoro bois already with excuses. Its time they realize Lucci is leagues above him. zoro will need help from outside if he were to beat Lucci :milaugh:

Its a good thing that Lucci is already nerfed after luffy fucked him up so that zoro can has a chance against him lmao
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This. Zoro bois are on super copium already. They dont realize its Lucci who is nerfed here after Luffy fucked him up :gokulaugh:

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Weakened? Lol. He literally lay there for a couple of hours after he was put down by the Kairoseki. And he's also an awakened zoan. He recovered a long time ago. And he didn't get a lot of damage. I missed a couple of strokes and that's it
 
#68
Kaku was severely injured and Lucci hates the weak. Do yall forget peoples characters or something. Tf Kaku was going to do in that condition? Bro he literally tried to take out Vegapunk and complete his mission surrounded by 3 commanders tf are you even talking about
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Lucci got 1 bandage on his face and they all rested throughout the day.
Still injured
 
#70
Weakened? Lol. He literally lay there for a couple of hours after he was put down by the Kairoseki. And he's also an awakened zoan. He recovered a long time ago. And he didn't get a lot of damage. I missed a couple of strokes and that's it
That's just Copium from zorotards :milaugh:

Lucci got bitch slapped by Luffy and then he had to fight seraphims as well. If anyone it's Lucci who is in fights non stop in egg head. He is already weakened by Luffy. Which is why he didn't even think abt retaliation as Luffy was around. If anything it's Lucci who is nerfed. Anything else is pretty much copium lmao :suresure:
 
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#71
That's just Copium from zorotards :milaugh:

Lucci got bitch slapped by Luffy and then he had to fight seraphims as well. If anyone it's Lucci who is in fights non stop in egg head. He is already weakened by Luffy. Which is why he didn't even think abt retaliation as Luffy was around. If anything it's Lucci who is nerfed. Anything else is pretty much copium lmao :suresure:
Lucci is nerfed? Lmao...
First of all bro is Zoan , they recover quickly. Luffy didn't do any major damage , he just knocked him out.
Both fought seraphims.
Stop coping.
 
#72
Lucci is nerfed? Lmao...
First of all bro is Zoan , they recover quickly. Luffy didn't do any major damage , he just knocked him out.
Both fought seraphims.
Stop coping.
He knocked him without doing damage? HAHAHA :milaugh:

zorotards finding new ways to coping lmao.
Lucci is already weakened and the only one to keep fighting in egg head continuously. Anything else is absolute BS :myman:
 
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Cruxroux

#73
He knocked him without doing damage? HAHAHA :milaugh:

zorotards finding new ways to coping lmao.
Lucci is already weakened and the only one to keep fighting in egg head continuously. Anything else is absolute BS :myman:
Lmao does he have , Broken bones? Internal Organ damage? Got stabbed? No right lmao.
Keep coping lmao. .your argument makes Zero sense
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#75
He got physical damage to the point he lost his conscious LMAO. And here we have a typical zorotard coping that their boi is about to fight an already nerfed opponent :ronalaugh:

Always loved salty tears from zkk fans
Lmao , No facts , no manga panel.
Can't accept Lucci didn't any major damage. Can't accept Zoan regeneration.
Average two piece readers.
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#76
Lmao , No facts , no manga panel.
Can't accept Lucci didn't any major damage. Can't accept Zoan regeneration.
Average two piece readers.
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We already saw he lost his conscious and got badaged after. And had to fight seraphims even after that. Everything happened in one piece. Meanwhile for two piece readers, he got healed up magically LMAO :milaugh:

I'm sorry but Lucci isn't Zoro who gets mink medicine to heal up automatically :ronalaugh:

Zoro fans needed kizaru but ended up with nerfed Lucci. Can understand why Zoro fans are super mad rn:myman:
 
#77
Kaku was severely injured and Lucci hates the weak. Do yall forget peoples characters or something. Tf Kaku was going to do in that condition? Bro he literally tried to take out Vegapunk and complete his mission surrounded by 3 commanders tf are you even talking about
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Lucci got 1 bandage on his face and they all rested throughout the day.
Rob Lucci does not hate the weak, lmao.
 
#79
That's just Copium from zorotards :milaugh:

Lucci got bitch slapped by Luffy and then he had to fight seraphims as well. If anyone it's Lucci who is in fights non stop in egg head. He is already weakened by Luffy. Which is why he didn't even think abt retaliation as Luffy was around. If anything it's Lucci who is nerfed. Anything else is pretty much copium lmao :suresure:
So Zoro fought with the two seraphim for a while. It is he who is weakened. He was not given a couple of hours of rest, unlike Lucci. And it's not zoan with super regeneration.
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He got physical damage to the point he lost his conscious LMAO. And here we have a typical zorotard coping that their boi is about to fight an already nerfed opponent :ronalaugh:

Always loved salty tears from zkk fans
He didn't lose consciousness Lol
 
#80
So Zoro fought with the two seraphim for a while. It is he who is weakened. He was not given a couple of hours of rest, unlike Lucci. And it's not zoan with super regeneration.
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He didn't lose consciousness Lol
It was kaku who fought two seraphims while Zoro did absolutely nothing LMAO.
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Lucci literary admitted how he was loosing his conscious. And the fight didn't continue afterwards. Luffy negged him to that point. Of course brain damaged Zoro fan cannot ready properly :myman:
 
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