General & Others Oda's writing

#45
Taking into account One Piece has more than a thousand chapter, what he is doing is exceptional.
But he is not perfect, nobody is.

What I don't like is people forgetting their powers, some changes he did in the story (but that's understandable since he didn't plan to have his story last this long).

And contrary to a lot of people who complains about the plot saving Luffy, I'm going to complain about the plot nerfing Luffy.
He litterally didn't use FS and adv Haki at the start of the raid (a little bit of FS but Oda is making it inconsistent af because it's too OP), so much that I'm starting to think introducing FS was a mistake. And there is so many examples of Luffy's strength being reduced for plot reasons.
 
#46
Pre-timeskip writing used to be good. Well-written fight scenes and enjoyable adventure story which is what One Piece is about. But now there's barely adventure stories and more fight scenes that nobody cares about.
True, true. Why do we have to see things like the supernovas vs Yonko, Luffy vs Katakuri etc. when in the pre timeskip we had the pleasure of seeing classics like Zoro vs Cabajii and Luffy vs Foxy? Lethal enemies and incredibly high quality battles and atmosphere. One mistake against those guys could really mean death :steef:
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Reserving everything for the MC. Revealed Lucci's hybrid form the first time he used his df but when Kaido faces Oden he faces him in his shitty ass Dragon form, reserved his hybrid for MC. Same goes for his executives also.

Many characters outside this arc also not showing proper feats until they face mc.
Another example is Queen in Udon not bothering to go hybrid and attacking Big Mom in the animal form, with one of the most stupid attacks I have ever seen. And not even using haki lmao.

That day, Big Mom may have been in bad conditions but Queen decisions...you have to wonder if he had eaten something similar looking to the read bean soup but that was a completely different thing :suresure:
 
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#47
Another issue is situations where fodder can clearly hurt upper tier characters because plot. We have classics like zombie fodder jumping the Strawhats and worst of all Squardo stabbing Whitebeard. The latter is baffling when Whitebeard is considered a top tier. Yes is his older and weaker, but to be stabbed by someone mid like Squardo is just why?

And as much as I want to bring up a random Marine Captain whacking Luffy with a mallet in Marineford, that is just anime only filler. At least the Vice Admirals and Admirals hurting him made way more sense.
 
#48
That's why One Piece can be really boring, even if the plot and characters are actually very interesting and engaging. It's just that Oda doesn't know what to do with the plot or the characters other than distract the reader by either creating tons of pointless sub-plots, or following a predetermined pattern when he writes his story. He stretches his story way more than necessary because he himself feels that his ideas still haven't reached their full potential yet. But he still doesn't really know how to use his ideas to the fullest. All he can do is stretch and constantly add mini-ideas until he feels satisfied enough. But this unfortunately wears us down as readers and causes us to be bored and rather fatigued because we neither have the same POV as Oda, nor do we care. We just want to be entertained and be delivered what we have been promised from the story


Oda has incredible creativity and possesses a mind that's booming with innovative, unique ideas. But he just can't execute those ideas well when he writes his chapters, which really doesn't do any justice to his ideas because execution is what determines the success of those ideas and helps them reach their full potential. I think he would be suited more as someone who generates ideas for an actual good writer and sits back comfortably to watch them get executed professionally in a manner that finally gives enough credit to his awesome ideas and story
 
#49
I am not sure if I can explain my criticism against Oda that well but I will try. For me, it's not so much the lack of deaths as it is the fake outs. I am bitter that Kinemon isn't dead. When Momo witnessed Kaido stab him in half, it was brutal and heartbreaking for the kid. Now, we have Kinemon's lower half running around a communicating through flatulence. Kinemon was a torso when he was introduced, but is it really necessary to do this again?

I also feel like there's a lot of padding in the post time skip arcs. The pacing isn't always the best and at times there are too many characters to keep track of, but that's on me because I don't care to pay attention to a lot of the characters.
 
#52
A lot of people have mentioned that Oda did a fantastic job at crafting an immersive and believable fantasy environment in the form of his One Piece world, but Oda's crafting of his world isn't that good tbh, considering there's so many aspects surrounding it in the narrative which just make no god damn sense.

He sprinkles in tidbits of world building to expand his world and its cultures, but at almost every turn it ends up adding more questions and exposing how shallow this world really is.

It's bad world building, since so many of its facets don't have the proper growth or evolution to make them feel like realistic societies, even within his own fictional world.

There's a huge distinction between a plot element being central to the STORY compared to being central to the WORLD. In a lot of stories, the world is built in a way where important plot elements, whether they be locations, objects, or people, that are extremely pivotal to the story being told, aren't treated with undeserved importance in the larger scope of the world. A good author should be able to properly distinguish between the two, and world build accordingly.

Leaving things ambiguous is one of the best ways to make your world feel larger. The issue is that he goes out of his way to add things which make no sense and end up making his world feel even smaller.

This is one of the many examples that just ends up making the world feel so much smaller than it should. It's like the world was completely stagnant and frozen until Luffy was born, and all the people in this world not connected to him might as well have never existed.

Oda has a magical ability of somehow managing to only add details to his story which harm his world building, rather than adding details which could enhance it.
He is outstanding at world generating. For a weekly series, there’s nothing else that even comes close to it considering the time-restrictions he has.

But he is average at world building. Putting it all together. The world feels empty and non-existent without Luffy and the straw hats present.
 
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#53
Their target audience are still young teenage boys. Though I'd like nothing more than it becoming more mature.
Young teenage boys that care about Racism, Slavery, Politics... Tell me more about that target audience bullshit.
 
#58
I hate the fake tension also because he has done it a gazillion times already and every time there is a Pound who seems to get killed offpanel I can only rolly eyes, or actually I do not even care at this point cause he killed it off at this point for me. The worst for me was still chapter 900. It was a mile chapter (9 hundreds) Luffy had ravaged WCI, beaten BM's YC1 and YC3, humiliated her and with only half the crew. Then in that chapter BM become herself again, there was the wicked song and in the end the Thousand Sunny looked like it was destroyed. Everything made sense, Oda equalized all the shit the BM pirates had to take for the whole arc, now her role as an emperor, a terrible threat, was restored. But nope, it was all fake tension. The answer to Oda at that point was clear.
 
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