General & Others Officially confirmed: Zoro is the vice captain
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Neither Luffy nor Zoro were present when Sanji did that
Sanji is the 3rd strongest so it makes sense that without the 2nd and the 1st he takes the lead
Zoro took the lead when Sanji was present in several occasions
Which again makes sense as he is the 2nd so he has superior authority to the 3rd
Authority comes from combat power
The strongest characters are 99% the leaders of their groups
The 2nd strongest characters are 99% the second-in-command of their groups
Thinking differently is just delusional
The Roger Pirates also disbanded without Roger
So that stops Rayleigh from being the N2, the right-hand man of Roger, the first mate and vice captain?
Sanji is the 3rd strongest so it makes sense that without the 2nd and the 1st he takes the lead
Zoro took the lead when Sanji was present in several occasions
Which again makes sense as he is the 2nd so he has superior authority to the 3rd
Authority comes from combat power
The strongest characters are 99% the leaders of their groups
The 2nd strongest characters are 99% the second-in-command of their groups
Thinking differently is just delusional
The Roger Pirates also disbanded without Roger
So that stops Rayleigh from being the N2, the right-hand man of Roger, the first mate and vice captain?
Yeah. I think oda showed back in Sabaody that Luffy Zoro and Sanji are the leaders of the crew being how when luffy told the crew to separate those three were the leaders and why they were the first ones luffy reunited with upon the return; but will we ever get an official Vice Captain designation from Luffy? Nah he doesn’t seem the type
Lmao what makes more sense to protect a group of weak people?
Dividing them in two (more people to protect for each) or in three (less people to protect for each)?
Zoro is the 2nd strongest after the captain, is the captain's right-hand man, has been called the first mate from countless sources, has been wondered why isn't the captain, is paralleled to the most famous vice-captain in the series, always fights other N2s etc
This is only a debate because of some people's agenda
In any other community the second strongest of a group is the one with the second greatest authority in that group without any cringe toxic discussion
The World's Strongest Swordsman is the swordsman stronger than all other swordsmen in the group
And so on
Literally to see if a One Piece fan is honest or not one only has to ask if Mihawk is stronger than any other swordsman and if in the Straw Hats Zoro is by far the second after Luffy with regards to anything, power authority etc
Dividing them in two (more people to protect for each) or in three (less people to protect for each)?
Zoro is the 2nd strongest after the captain, is the captain's right-hand man, has been called the first mate from countless sources, has been wondered why isn't the captain, is paralleled to the most famous vice-captain in the series, always fights other N2s etc
This is only a debate because of some people's agenda
In any other community the second strongest of a group is the one with the second greatest authority in that group without any cringe toxic discussion
The World's Strongest Swordsman is the swordsman stronger than all other swordsmen in the group
And so on
Literally to see if a One Piece fan is honest or not one only has to ask if Mihawk is stronger than any other swordsman and if in the Straw Hats Zoro is by far the second after Luffy with regards to anything, power authority etc
It’s obvious Sanji took the lead cuz Luffy isn’t around. The point is he took such role.
This is not a matter of worthiness, but rather is he or is he not. Does Zoro have the title of vice captain? No.
This is the point. We ain’t talking if Zoro or anyone else is worthy of the title. However, is any one holding the VC title? No.
Is Luffy gonna call Zoro the vice captain? No.
This is not a matter of worthiness, but rather is he or is he not. Does Zoro have the title of vice captain? No.
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This is the point. We ain’t talking if Zoro or anyone else is worthy of the title. However, is any one holding the VC title? No.
Is Luffy gonna call Zoro the vice captain? No.
Maybe it's that Oda doesn't want to give 2 roles to one character.. And he's pushing for Swordsmaster as a role as much as Gunner for Usopp.. But yeah Zoro is still Vice Captain even if there's no '' @Santoryu D Bazooka '' confirmation.. Official is Swordsmaster though..
What are we even talking about?
If the subject wasn't Zoro, this wouldn't even be a debate
Assuming that Zoro doesn't have greater authority than any other SHP member bar Luffy
Then
Why would Chopper ask Zoro after Luffy already denied him?
If Zoro doesn't have authority, why ask him?
And likewise
Why after Zoro denied too, why did Chopper stopped asking?
If Zoro doesn't have authority, why stop after he denied, and instead just ask someone else?
Pretty clear that Luffy > Zoro > others
In fact we see this
That is FULLY APPROVED BY ODA
Like it or not
You guys will never learn, other characters without as much portrayal or in story explanation as Zoro can be VC/RHM but never Zoro because it hurts their fragile feelings.
too many snowflakes out there since the 2010’s and they mostly Sanji fans who don’t want to accept Luffy, Zoro and Nani are way more relevant to the story
too many snowflakes out there since the 2010’s and they mostly Sanji fans who don’t want to accept Luffy, Zoro and Nani are way more relevant to the story
Zoro’s basically the unofficial VC. He acts like one, Oda has mentioned it in data books and people outside the crew view him as such, but he’ll most likely never receive an official title like Rayleigh in the manga because Oda wants to keep the SH family dynamics as just that. No one will have any absolute authority over another
What's on portrayal in the material are the perceptions and assumptions outsiders have of the Strawhats and Zoro's role among them.
What you illiterate imbeciles cannot seem to comprehend or deliberately leave out is that none of those perceptions and assumptions align with the reality of the SHP inner-workings and hierarchy because they are a crew unlike any other that have no hierarchy below Luffy's captaincy.
What you illiterate imbeciles cannot seem to comprehend or deliberately leave out is that none of those perceptions and assumptions align with the reality of the SHP inner-workings and hierarchy because they are a crew unlike any other that have no hierarchy below Luffy's captaincy.
