Future Events On Zoro vs Shiryu
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While confirmed FS user luffy was still sleeping, Zoro was already on his way to block Ocean Sovereignty. He easily kept up with hybrid kaido, flame off King and frontally blitzed an awakened zoan with closed eyes after dodging his fastest moves point blank. Sleep diff proved his CoO always active and on watch.
I don't know how Oda can further show his extensive expertise in CoO. Imo he's shown even enough to be suspected as an unconscious FS user, but that theory will need a confirmation.
Shiryu absolutely needs another power up before he can dream of making Zoro huff more than 5 times.
I don't know how Oda can further show his extensive expertise in CoO. Imo he's shown even enough to be suspected as an unconscious FS user, but that theory will need a confirmation.
Shiryu absolutely needs another power up before he can dream of making Zoro huff more than 5 times.
This will be probably be the worst fight in the entire series.
Another lame gimmick merchant. The trick to get past invisibility was already given to us Pre-Ts. And also CoO exits so it automatically makes the fruit useless.
This Fodder couldn't even KO Moria. Didn't do anything except give a papercut to Moria.
Kuzan also called him fodder.
Imagine having the invisible fruit and still needing to make an elaborate plan of targeting Coby just to land a meaningless hit on Garp.
If Oda doesn't do his usually clownish antics, this fight doesn't even last longer than 5 panels
Another lame gimmick merchant. The trick to get past invisibility was already given to us Pre-Ts. And also CoO exits so it automatically makes the fruit useless.
This Fodder couldn't even KO Moria. Didn't do anything except give a papercut to Moria.
Kuzan also called him fodder.
Imagine having the invisible fruit and still needing to make an elaborate plan of targeting Coby just to land a meaningless hit on Garp.
If Oda doesn't do his usually clownish antics, this fight doesn't even last longer than 5 panels
If Oda made up King to give Zoro an opponent tougher than Kaido, you cannot possibly think he will disappoint with Shiryu. 
There is no possible scenario the janitor is even remotely touching that
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Just remember, "Every Supreme Grade wielder is a high top tier"
Venus has a supreme grade and he is a low top tier at best, which is only due to regeneration. Otherwise he isn't even Yc1 tier
Not even close and not sure how that affects King/Shiryu beating Kaido/Blackbeard in their signatures...No, again. They are the ultimate counters for Strawhats. BMP were never relevant enough to bring Zoro to crush them.
If he is below Zoro now, he will be above Zoro when the time for their fight comes. Trivial matters...
Maybe but I doubt it as we are moving into Elbaf(typo correction), a big arc unless WG invades over there. Pressing X to doubt.
Shiryu is Zoro's main fight, just like Mr1, Ohm, Kaku, Ryuma, Pica and King were. He is not a warm-up for someone else, lol.
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I see, as expected, the insecurity is in the room with us...
If he was capable of beating Kaido in what Kaido is best known for, he is surely beating him in some other stats too.
I repeat, Kaido's main selling point - the toughness is beaten by a mere underling.
In the rest of the stats, Kaido exceeds him by a country mile just like he exceeds him in toughness by a country mile, lol.
Aka he doesn't. Their stats are very, very similar. The only stat that Kaido beats him by a country mile is Destructive Capacity because King doesn't have a single move that can destroy an island of Onigashima's size like Kaido can with his Blazing Bagua.
Note that I didn't say King can't destroy island of Onigashima size because he can, it is just that he cannot pull it off with one move.
He would just have to spam several Tempura Udons and would achieve the same.
Should I tell you that King beats Kaido in speed by a country mile or can you figure that out by yourself?
Should I tell you that King beats Kaido in lethality too? Not by a country mile but he is ahead regardless.
Lunarian flames > Kaido's flames. Swords > Clubs. And no, the aCoC will not turn the tables of heavily inferior damage type.
That brings us to Shiryu beating Blackbeard in what Blackbeard is supposedly best at - the supreme DF merchant.
If he was capable of beating Kaido in what Kaido is best known for, he is surely beating him in some other stats too.
I repeat, Kaido's main selling point - the toughness is beaten by a mere underling.
In the rest of the stats, Kaido exceeds him by a country mile just like he exceeds him in toughness by a country mile, lol.
Aka he doesn't. Their stats are very, very similar. The only stat that Kaido beats him by a country mile is Destructive Capacity because King doesn't have a single move that can destroy an island of Onigashima's size like Kaido can with his Blazing Bagua.
Note that I didn't say King can't destroy island of Onigashima size because he can, it is just that he cannot pull it off with one move.
He would just have to spam several Tempura Udons and would achieve the same.
Should I tell you that King beats Kaido in speed by a country mile or can you figure that out by yourself?
Should I tell you that King beats Kaido in lethality too? Not by a country mile but he is ahead regardless.
Lunarian flames > Kaido's flames. Swords > Clubs. And no, the aCoC will not turn the tables of heavily inferior damage type.
That brings us to Shiryu beating Blackbeard in what Blackbeard is supposedly best at - the supreme DF merchant.
I see, as expected, the insecurity is in the room with us...
If he was capable of beating Kaido in what Kaido is best known for, he is surely beating him in some other stats too.
I repeat, Kaido's main selling point - the toughness is beaten by a mere underling.
In the rest of the stats, Kaido exceeds him by a country mile just like he exceeds him in toughness by a country mile, lol.
Aka he doesn't. Their stats are very, very similar. The only stat that Kaido beats him by a country mile is Destructive Capacity because King doesn't have a single move that can destroy an island of Onigashima's size like Kaido can with his Blazing Bagua.
Note that I didn't say King can't destroy island of Onigashima size because he can, it is just that he cannot pull it off with one move.
He would just have to spam several Tempura Udons and would achieve the same.
Should I tell you that King beats Kaido in speed by a country mile or can you figure that out by yourself?
Should I tell you that King beats Kaido in lethality too? Not by a country mile but he is ahead regardless.
Lunarian flames > Kaido's flames. Swords > Clubs. And no, the aCoC will not turn the tables of heavily inferior damage type.
That brings us to Shiryu beating Blackbeard in what Blackbeard is supposedly best at - the supreme DF merchant.
If he was capable of beating Kaido in what Kaido is best known for, he is surely beating him in some other stats too.
I repeat, Kaido's main selling point - the toughness is beaten by a mere underling.
In the rest of the stats, Kaido exceeds him by a country mile just like he exceeds him in toughness by a country mile, lol.
Aka he doesn't. Their stats are very, very similar. The only stat that Kaido beats him by a country mile is Destructive Capacity because King doesn't have a single move that can destroy an island of Onigashima's size like Kaido can with his Blazing Bagua.
Note that I didn't say King can't destroy island of Onigashima size because he can, it is just that he cannot pull it off with one move.
He would just have to spam several Tempura Udons and would achieve the same.
Should I tell you that King beats Kaido in speed by a country mile or can you figure that out by yourself?
Should I tell you that King beats Kaido in lethality too? Not by a country mile but he is ahead regardless.
Lunarian flames > Kaido's flames. Swords > Clubs. And no, the aCoC will not turn the tables of heavily inferior damage type.
That brings us to Shiryu beating Blackbeard in what Blackbeard is supposedly best at - the supreme DF merchant.
We'll see when that fight happens and it shows shiryu as an absolute fodder.
Not even close and not sure how that affects King/Shiryu beating Kaido/Blackbeard in their signatures...No, again. They are the ultimate counters for Strawhats. BMP were never relevant enough to bring Zoro to crush them.
If he is below Zoro now, he will be above Zoro when the time for their fight comes. Trivial matters...
Maybe but I doubt it as we are moving into Elbaf(typo correction), a big arc unless WG invades over there. Pressing X to doubt.
Shiryu is Zoro's main fight, just like Mr1, Ohm, Kaku, Ryuma, Pica and King were. He is not a warm-up for someone else, lol.
The BBP aren’t that. The WG are just a far bigger threat.
I think it’s much more likely that Elbaf is WCI 2.0, where most of Teach’s commanders fall, but Teach himself doesn’t, only for him to fall to allies in mariejois.
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Elbaf fights imo:
Luffy vs Kuzan - extreme diff
Zoro vs Shiryu - mid diff
Law/Kid vs Pizarro - low diff
Sanji/Sabo/Koby vs Burgess - interrupted
Basically like WCI. Only Luffy gets a big drawn out fight.
Final Saga is a large compilation of most important battles and when it comes to most important crew battle for Strawhats, nobody can hold a candle to SHs vs BBPs. Battle vs CG will be Davy Back Fight and not all members will be included.
Battle vs WG will be heavily focused on the allies, the blueprint being Dressrosa. It will never be a SHs focused arc.
In terms of a timeline:
Egghead>Elbaf>Mariejois>battle of 4 Emperors >Final Villain(not Imu).
Battle vs WG will be heavily focused on the allies, the blueprint being Dressrosa. It will never be a SHs focused arc.
In terms of a timeline:
Egghead>Elbaf>Mariejois>battle of 4 Emperors >Final Villain(not Imu).
