Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1017 Spoilers Discussion

[God Buggy]

The weakest of them should be YC lv easily, which sums up the question how powerful Pre-TS Shiryu really was, even without considering his portrayal to Magellan. He was the strongest of them. Low Top Tier is possible at this point.

Honestly, I have the feeling that if King or Katakuri were to go against current Shiryu, they would receive the worst beating of their lives.

I only put Benn above Shiryu amongst Yonko subordinates. And he is going to be stronger than him as well.

 

[Dark Admiral]

No. Gomu Gomu is just a special DF, that doesn't mean that Roger or Rocks ate it.

define special.?? Unless some legendary figure had it in the past and exploited its powers, it's just another DF to WG.

 

[Sentinel]

Still seems a bit of an exaggeration imo

Maybe but after this reveal, I don't exclude this possibility anymore. The strongest Lv. 6 members were absolute monsters - Who's Who was most likely defeated by one of them.
Therefore, the weakest > Who's Who.

 

[Bogard]

With all these new reveals about Impel Down, the theory of King being a former warden of Impel could truly be back

 

[Sentinel]

With all these new reveals about Impel Down, the theory of King being a former warden of Impel could truly be back

WTF? I never recognized the similar design!

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Maybe but after this reveal, I don't exclude this possibility anymore. The strongest Lv. 6 members were absolute monsters - Who's Who was most likely defeated by one of them.
Therefore, the weakest > Who's Who.

Was he defeated? There were plenty of cages and not all of them joined Blackbeard. He coulda won and went his own way

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With all these new reveals about Impel Down, the theory of King being a former warden of Impel could truly be back

Devil fruitless Shiryuu = King?

 

[Abysmal]

With all these new reveals about Impel Down, the theory of King being a former warden of Impel could truly be back

 

[Sir Yasheen]

They likely never met in ID.

King has been in Kaido's crew for at least 20 years. WsW was locked up 12 years ago.

This leaves Jack as the odd man out with Kaido's #2, 3 and 5 having ties to WG. That said Kaido likely had another person filling Jack's position (Avalo Pizzaro?), so they might be the one with WG ties.

Jacks too young to have any other position since he’s been with the beasts since he was 8. I do think it’s possible he may have been an experiment on punk hazard with the numbers

 

[Lhulu]

Was he defeated? There were plenty of cages and not all of them joined Blackbeard. He coulda won and went his own way

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Devil fruitless Shiryuu = King?

For sure, if Zoro fight King now, Shiryuu needs to be 1 tier above.

 

[Master OF Haki]

define special.?? Unless some legendary figure had it in the past and exploited its powers, it's just another DF to WG.

DF with special abilities: like Ope Ope that preform the eternal life surgery, Blackbeard's darkness DF that can take other DF abilities etc.

 

[Ballel]

He literally got imprisoned for 10 years even though he claimed himself as "Rob Lucci level great" and for a freakin Rubber fruit.

The fruit is probably related to void century/Joyboy.
The fruit powers themselves don't make Luffy PK.

 

[Peroroncino]

Was he defeated? There were plenty of cages and not all of them joined Blackbeard. He coulda won and went his own way

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Devil fruitless Shiryuu = King?

if king is as strong as shiryu was when he was introduced then holy shit zoro is in for a fight

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

For sure, if Zoro fight King now, Shiryuu needs to be 1 tier above.

I think Shiryuu is going to be Fujitora/Oden\Linlin level so def above King

 

[Abysmal]

if king is as strong as shiryu was when he was introduced then holy shit zoro is in for a fight

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

if king is as strong as shiryu was when he was introduced then holy shit zoro is in for a fight

Fingers crossed!

 

[Master OF Haki]

I think Shiryuu is going to be Fujitora/Oden\Linlin level so def above King

But Oden mid diffed Kaido?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

But Oden mid diffed Kaido?

Dragon Kaido

 

[Kishido]

So now King will be for sure Yonkou level if 100 Zoro beats him and Who is Who for sure is above Queen

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

But Oden mid diffed Kaido?

A kaido from 20 years ago. Not the current kaido

 

[Master OF Haki]

Dragon Kaido

Does matter, he still mid diffed him.