Zoro's position in the Strawhat crew


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Bullshit. He lifed blocks with kid in sea stone cuffs. Pre-tineskip Zoro picked up a house. Base luff (non devil fruit) has zero feats. He has access to no gears so no super speed in comparison to his gear 2 or gear 4. And he has zero destructive feats that place him on mountain level without gear 4. So if he loses his fruit now he has no feats that would place him in the same ball park.

Plus it's already confirmed that his insane mobility and endurance and defenses comes from his fruit.

Zoro has a fighting predicated on him not having his blade
"Base Luffy has no feats."
Because Luffy's fruit is a part of him. And if Oda decides that Luffy somehow lives and loses his fruit he will still have superior Haki than Zoro and will be faster than Zoro with or without his devil fruit. There is no evidence that proves otherwise.

"Zoro has a fighting predicated on him not having his blade"
Zoro uses Enma to cut boro breath and block the hakai. Without his swords, his bones would have been crushed into powder. The same way he was using his swords to cut pica, meanwhile Luffy was shattering pica with his haki and tanked boro breath.
 
Zoro will show his big black blade against king, just to show everyone he can easily defeat the guy who negged sanji, then use big black blade to slay Kaido.
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Man shut your mouth. The Wings of the pirateking just got confirmed to be a legend in the making and a essential pillar for the future king. Fake King did no damage :milaugh:
 

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Man shut your mouth. The Wings of the pirateking just got confirmed to be a legend in the making and a essential pillar for the future king. Fake King did no damage :milaugh:
legend? you can keep your transportation device but don't direct your jealousy towards me just because zoro will defeat a man who can neg sanji.
And you're right he did no damage to judge's suit.
 
"Base Luffy has no feats."
Because Luffy's fruit is a part of him. And if Oda decides that Luffy somehow lives and loses his fruit he will still have superior Haki than Zoro and will be faster than Zoro with or without his devil fruit. There is no evidence that proves otherwise.

"Zoro has a fighting predicated on him not having his blade"
Zoro uses Enma to cut boro breath and block the hakai. Without his swords, his bones would have been crushed into powder. The same way he was using his swords to cut pica, meanwhile Luffy was shattering pica with his haki and tanked boro breath.
Cap he didn't use Enma to cut boro breath. So you done capping. He blocked hakai with all 3 blades. And not one received a scratch of damage.

Thank you for answering the point. Luffy has been with the fruit longer than he has been without it. So it's borderline stupid saying that he would defeat someone without the assistance of his gomu gomu fruit.

Luffy shatter picas face with gear 3 along with haki. Last time I checked gear 3 involved his fruit.

Luffy tanked bro breath using gear 4. Last time I checked gear 4 it's him using his fruit
 

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King: through the nine mountains and eight seas there is nothing i can't divebomb in my ptero form u saved Momonosuk fck u im pissed and u chilling?!


Sanji:

Are they all flying Devil Fruit users? :kaidowhat:
i'm not denying sanji saved momonosuke at all, sanji saved him, there you go. Still got negged though.
 
Cap he didn't use Enma to cut boro breath. So you done capping. He blocked hakai with all 3 blades. And not one received a scratch of damage.

Thank you for answering the point. Luffy has been with the fruit longer than he has been without it. So it's borderline stupid saying that he would defeat someone without the assistance of his gomu gomu fruit.

Luffy shatter picas face with gear 3 along with haki. Last time I checked gear 3 involved his fruit.

Luffy tanked bro breath using gear 4. Last time I checked gear 4 it's him using his fruit
All the feats of Zoro are due to his swordmanship. Zoro has no feats to show without his swords. Zoro's laijutsu based attacks will br useless without him using swords.

Luffy's rubber fruit does nothing to fight against heat. During Enel vs Luffy, it was shown Heat is one of the things that can actually hurt Luffy. Luffy tanked Boro breath and He just happen to be in his gear 4th form at that time. when Kaido asks are you immune to heat, Luffy says it is all his guts.
 
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