Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1022 Spoilers Discussion
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now i disagree heavily.
you cant seriously place roger under kaido and big mom bro. they dont have future sight, they dont have advanced armament as well.
roger's subordinate rayleigh was using those casually. to match other monsters like those i can bet money that roger mastered advanced forms of all haki and was arguably physically fast enough for that future sight to work against those monsters (unlike luffy against kaido).
the narrative should be roger would overpower or atleast match them in combat so without having a devil fruit so his haki should be arguably stronger than them. slightly but enough to make a difference.
you cant seriously place roger under kaido and big mom bro. they dont have future sight, they dont have advanced armament as well.
roger's subordinate rayleigh was using those casually. to match other monsters like those i can bet money that roger mastered advanced forms of all haki and was arguably physically fast enough for that future sight to work against those monsters (unlike luffy against kaido).
the narrative should be roger would overpower or atleast match them in combat so without having a devil fruit so his haki should be arguably stronger than them. slightly but enough to make a difference.
They fought for THREE DAYS my guy and neither had an advantage.
That not a fucking clash you buffoon
That not a fucking clash you buffoon
You literally talked about haki clashing and used that to claim their haki was equal, stop deflecting.
Neither the clash nor their supposed fight told us anything about their power except introduced advCoC.
If you want to deduct anything, if you want to push it, it is overall strength WB ~ Roger, something we already knew for 850 chapters.
Everything else is conjecture.
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A 3 day and night fight is a Clash?
Wtf is Blackbeard vs Luffy in Impel Down? A handshake??
i honestly wont be surprised if big mom ragdolls law and kidd for a while and then oda inserts some PIS and allows the BMP to take her out of wano. mothering mode or olin mode or something.
id hate it but i wouldnt put it past oda.
balls. no reason to believe that. roger almost one shotted oden.
id hate it but i wouldnt put it past oda.
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balls. no reason to believe that. roger almost one shotted oden.
I used to be of the mindset that the old top tiers (Roger, WB, Shiki, Garp, Sengoku, Xebec, etc.) were built different from modern top tiers (Kaido, BM, Shanks, BB, Dragon, Akainu, Mihawk, etc.), but after seeing Kaido and BM very casually use advanced COC, I don’t think it’s the case, and I don’t think it’s what the story is trying to portray.
It would be weird if Luffy’s opponents/hardships were less than that of Roger’s.
It would be weird if Luffy’s opponents/hardships were less than that of Roger’s.
i mean im not saying that the old gen is outright stronger. id actually place them on a similar level.
roger is just builT different. i full expect someone fighting primebeard without a devil fruit to have adv CoA, adv CoO and adv CoC and all three mastered to the absolute best.
i dont think roger would have trouble dodging thunder bagua with his future sight and avoid getting tagged by it unlike luffy at the rooftop. i guess that's the standard i hold the pirate king, the one who rose above all the other conquerors in the sea to.
roger is just builT different. i full expect someone fighting primebeard without a devil fruit to have adv CoA, adv CoO and adv CoC and all three mastered to the absolute best.
i dont think roger would have trouble dodging thunder bagua with his future sight and avoid getting tagged by it unlike luffy at the rooftop. i guess that's the standard i hold the pirate king, the one who rose above all the other conquerors in the sea to.
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